Wyoming Discussion

[AppStateNews]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

If, if and ands....were pots and pans....

The issue with this is that we have vastly new coaching staff this year. Yet it’s the exact same type of conservative play that saw last year and the year before. Why change up the entire scheme when it’s working. Playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

When did we change the entire scheme?

[appstatealum]

As a coach, you need to have a pulse on your team. These "play not to lose" games have almost always led to losses. How does Clark not factor that in. We aren't that team to play that way. Joey is a gunslinger, let him sling. 4 redzone trips should have led to tuddies and we don't have to worry about 1 or 2 freak plays by the opponent. Just like last week, the play calling in different stages of the game make no sense and don't fit the identity of this team. I'm sorry, but we don't have to give guys too much credit because they coach at the collegiate level- I meet people all the time in different industries that boggle my mind on how they have the job they do.

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

There will be white knights in here claiming our goals are still in front of us when we’re 6-6 again…

[Stonewall]

He was a non-factor on his previous Sunbelt team. Now he starts at App . Anyway HC gets the blame as his body of work did not produce a win.We have a good team though , perhaps better than Wyoming , just not tonight [despite statistical domination].

[smokeshow]

We pay this man a million dollars! A MILLION FREAKING DOLLARS!!! I'm officially done.

[311neers]

420 yards to 207
27 1st downs to 7
40:19 TOP to 19:41 (WOW)
2 turnovers to 1.
2 penalties to their 8.

I’m sick.

[AppDub]

There will be white knights in here claiming our goals are still in front of us when we’re 6-6 again…

Make no mistake, those words will come from an App press conference in the near future.

[AppRT]

As a coach, you need to have a pulse on your team. These "play not to lose" games have almost always led to losses. How does Clark not factor that in. We aren't that team to play that way. Joey is a gunslinger, let him sling. 4 redzone trips should have led to tuddies and we don't have to worry about 1 or 2 freak plays by the opponent. Just like last week, the play calling in different stages of the game make no sense and don't fit the identity of this team. I'm sorry, but we don't have to give guys too much credit because they coach at the collegiate level- I meet people all the time in different industries that boggle my mind on how they have the job they do.

This…
These "play not to lose" games have almost always led to losses. How does Clark not factor that in.
…Nailed it

[Stonewall]

420 yards to 207
27 1st downs to 7
40:19 TOP to 19:41 (WOW)
2 turnovers to 1.
2 penalties to their 8.

I’m sick.

Yes Sir

[smokeshow]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

It's called poor execution which ultimately is on the coaching staff. These bonehead plays are results of players not being ready for the game.

[AppStateNews]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

You make good points but it's said EVERY SINGLE game when you are in FG range with ZERO timeouts. You can't take a sack, catch it in bounds or throw a PIC. We were in FG range and it was the coach's decision to take another shot. We all wanted the win but you have to see that pressure coming and unload it out of bounds or first and foremost kick the FG!

Right, but that pressure was expected. We knew it was coming (trust me, everybody on our sideline new they were bringing the heat on that play) which is why we called the screen we called. Again, of Joey gets it to Nate like he's supposed to, Nate has 2 guys to beat with 5 guys blocking for him. Worst case, he gets the first down. Best, and likely the case if JA makes the right read, is a walk off TD.

I'm not sure I agree with the decision instead of going for a FG, but one of the reasons why is because Wyoming figured something out on film for our kicks. After the first FG, the guard came off trying to tell the staff about something. After the 2nd FG, same guard comes off and says "told you! It's coming soon!" presumably talking about the block. They did change protection on the 3rd and 4th FGs. Not sure what happened on the block (have to back and watch) but after it, the staff was not confident calling another long FG because of what they were doing in the middle and the low trajectory of a long FG. Not excusing it, just explaining what was discussed on the sideline.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

You make good points but it's said EVERY SINGLE game when you are in FG range with ZERO timeouts. You can't take a sack, catch it in bounds or throw a PIC. We were in FG range and it was the coach's decision to take another shot. We all wanted the win but you have to see that pressure coming and unload it out of bounds or first and foremost kick the FG!

It's not every single game...

There was 20 seconds left. I don't think Clark said 'take a shot", he wanted a few more yards and then a kick.

Roll JA out and throw a sideline pass, coulda ran a couple of QB draw that last series...

I would be critical of Frank's late game play calling at least once they got across mid field vs Wyoming and as I stated 2 weeks ago the 2nd OT vs UNC was awful.

part of the ball control system does hurt when trailing - because they are NOT use to playing wide open. App State football is built to play with a lead. The block FG was a fluke - 1st time in Wyoming football history that has happened - just bad luck.

[DenverOfTheEast]

We pay this man a million dollars! A MILLION FREAKING DOLLARS!!! I'm officially done.

What's this have to do with anything, he's actually under paid all things considering and he doesn't make a million.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

We pay this man a million dollars! A MILLION FREAKING DOLLARS!!! I'm officially done.

What's this have to do with anything, he's actually under paid all things considering and he doesn't make a million.

He is not under paid.

[mtnchopyaz]

Trying to manage the end of a close game is a little harder at this level then it was at Shelby High eh?? Perhaps making your right hand man a former high school coach, no matter how successful he was, isn’t a great idea. How’s that working out for UNCC?

[DenverOfTheEast]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

[Appstate88]

Sick. Gotta heal that broken heart. Tough one Apps. Must find a way to finish drives. Hats off to the Defense. Defense wins Championships. We can compete with anyone if we can trade field goals for extra points.

[AppOrange]

Most frustrating loss since Wake Forest at home. Totally dominated, Wyoming is very fortunate. I will say this, their fans were as good as I’ve been around on the road. Classy. Still, fluke loss. 7 first downs and only 208 yards of O with 80 on one play, smh, it’s going to take a while to get over this one. No one to blame imo, just extremely unlucky in this one.

[LKN_Lawyer]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

So how do you explain all of his inexplicable losses after the games listed above?

[appvette]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

Is that you, Shawn?