The importance of beating Chuck South

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The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by Gonzo » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:42 pm

1. Maintaining the momentum of the Elon win and its status as a season turning point.
We've seen and drawn our own comparisons to the '09 season. That all means nothing if we drop another home game and go 1-3. Elon was our fresh start, our chance to put the growing pains in the past and move forward in our farewell tour of the SoCon. We need to take advantage of the momentum as we move into the heart of the schedule.

2. Trying our hand against the Triple Option
Of the list of teams on our schedule with high school I mean triple option offenses, Chuck South should have the weakest. El Cid, Wofford and The Stink will be tough if we can't do a good job stopping CS next weekend. It's time for the first test of Coach Woody against a style of offense that he should have a major advantage in scheming. With Blair likely still suspended and the fact that we let a sub-par Elon rushing attack pick up tons of yards on the ground in the second half, it's a little unnerving.

3. Winning a game at home in front of our fans -- especially freshman students.
IMHO, students make or break an atmosphere. When I was a student I noticed a phenomenon: students need just one big win or exciting game to set the tone early in the year in order to maintain the raucous atmosphere that The Rock is famous for. At the beginning of any given year, you just lost a class of seniors that knew how to behave at a home game who have been replaced by some green 12th men.

Last year we were fortunate to have the big, exciting win against the Griz right off the bat. The year before, the atmosphere was lacking until we beat the Moc's in a very crowd-involved defensive showdown.

We need a convincing win to get these inexperienced freshman into the game.

4. It's Chuck South
Yeah they beat El Cid, but good grief it's Charleston Southern. If you've never seen where they play please google their stadium. A convincing win is expected, and should be expected, from a team of our caliber no matter how good of a year Chuck South is having.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by moehler » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:56 pm

CS is dangerous, they won pretty easily yesterday, having said that your get the feeling with their first win for SS yesterday, and with the return of Price, that the pressure is off and they can go out and just play football and have fun. Lot of good things came out of the game yesterday, we found our starting rb, the OL while not overall playing great, did a wonderful job on that last drive, and the freshman lbs continue to impress, overall the young kids seem to be taking charge and becoming the identity of team, just what we all hoped would happen.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by luvyosef » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:27 am

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by Old Wideout » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:50 am

You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:20 pm

Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by moonshine » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:29 pm

My hope is for the D to hold CS under 20 points and for SS to lead this team to their first 2013 victory at the Rock.
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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:36 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:
Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.
If he hasn't redshirted before then he could redhsirt this year.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by Yosef84 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:19 pm

appst89 wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:
Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.
If he hasn't redshirted before then he could redhsirt this year.

I seem to have missed something here. I know that Blair was injured, and I know about the issue last week. Was the injury significant enough to get a medical redshirt? I had no idea that his season was at risk. Where is the information coming from that he will be out for the year?

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:46 pm

appst89 wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:
Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.
If he hasn't redshirted before then he could redhsirt this year.

I would respectfully ask for your source of this information. I understood it was rather difficult to redshirt for anything other than one's freshman year. And while a medical redshirt was available anytime after an injury warranted it, a non-medical redshirt was not as available.

Also, I cannot think of a single player I know who has redshirted in anything other than freshman year.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:03 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:
Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.
If he hasn't redshirted before then he could redhsirt this year.

I would respectfully ask for your source of this information. I understood it was rather difficult to redshirt for anything other than one's freshman year. And while a medical redshirt was available anytime after an injury warranted it, a non-medical redshirt was not as available.

Also, I cannot think of a single player I know who has redshirted in anything other than freshman year.
I seem to remember Cedric Baker getting a RS in a later year. I'm not testifying to the validity of that post but I believe it is possible.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:16 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:
Old Wideout wrote:You can expect Blair is gone for the season.

Will get a redshirt.

I don't think he can get a red-shirt, since he played last year, unless it's a medical red-shirt. Aint' nothin' wrong with him, except for his poor judgment. I doubt the NCAA will grant a medical redshirt for that.

Maybe so.
If he hasn't redshirted before then he could redhsirt this year.

I would respectfully ask for your source of this information. I understood it was rather difficult to redshirt for anything other than one's freshman year. And while a medical redshirt was available anytime after an injury warranted it, a non-medical redshirt was not as available.

Also, I cannot think of a single player I know who has redshirted in anything other than freshman year.
Marshall had a QB, I believe it was Pennington, who redshirted as as a sophomore or junior.

All the NCAA literature I can find says a player has five years to complete four years of eligibility. It doesn't say anything about limiting it to the freshman year.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by asumike83 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:47 pm

Michael Frazier redshirted after his sophomore season to convert from LB to RB. It is possible but would still be very strange for Blair to take a non-medical redshirt.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by moonshine » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:02 pm

Mike provided an example from this very team. If this is true, I wonder if the coaches might try to RS Duece (assuming he's on board) next season and have both him and Blair as senior DEs for the inaugural 2015 season when App is no longer in transition and bowl eligible. Could be tough going these next 2 seasons with lots of young guys getting PT on the DL but that 2015 defense might be sick with quite a bit of depth if this were to come to fruition.
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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by 87ASUgrad » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:45 am

I get flashbacks to the butt whooping last year from The Citadel when talking triple option teams. That cannot happen again. That is why we went and got Coach Woody. I believe he will have this young defense ready for these triple option teams this year. Saturday will be the first option test. Need a home win, Go APPS!!
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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by Old Wideout » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:40 am

The underbelly of it all.

Players get mystery head injury, aka concussions, sit out and get a red shirt.

Price, Beathard are a couple that come to mind recently. Played the first few games weren't ready so redshirt..........

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by JTApps1 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:46 pm

appst89 wrote:
Marshall had a QB, I believe it was Pennington, who redshirted as as a sophomore or junior.

All the NCAA literature I can find says a player has five years to complete four years of eligibility. It doesn't say anything about limiting it to the freshman year.
You're right! When Bob Pruett replaced Jim Donnan as head coach he brought Eric Kresser with him from Florida. Pennington had a very good Freshman year, but Kresser got the nod for his senior (and only) season in Huntington.

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Re: The importance of beating Chuck South

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:02 pm

Our breathern from UNC-Harrisburg intend on redshirting several players next year that did not redshirt this year so that they will have a bunch of 3rd year players their first full season in in CUSA with 3 years of eligibility left!
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