G5 Poll

[goapps93]

Y'all the only G5 team that's got a shot at the P5 is SMU and it's b/c they have the money. They are loaded to the hills and using the left over to wipe their butts. I see it first hand living here in Dallas and listening to their alums

If UCF and Boise can't make it then we can't either. Football is a different beast and a playoff against the best of the G5 and the P5s that got left out will be what we get.

SMU and UCF are now P4.

[kornegaylw]

Y'all the only G5 team that's got a shot at the P5 is SMU and it's b/c they have the money. They are loaded to the hills and using the left over to wipe their butts. I see it first hand living here in Dallas and listening to their alums

If UCF and Boise can't make it then we can't either. Football is a different beast and a playoff against the best of the G5 and the P5s that got left out will be what we get.

SMU and UCF are now P4.

The Big12 is not the SEC or BIG10. When you distill down the conversation we're having its about the SEC and BIG10 separating from the rest of CFB.

[Pikapp79]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

[AppStFan1]

Y'all the only G5 team that's got a shot at the P5 is SMU and it's b/c they have the money. They are loaded to the hills and using the left over to wipe their butts. I see it first hand living here in Dallas and listening to their alums

If UCF and Boise can't make it then we can't either. Football is a different beast and a playoff against the best of the G5 and the P5s that got left out will be what we get.

SMU and UCF are now P4.

I was about to say the same thing. UCF played in the Big 12 this past year and SMU is joining the ACC this year.

[AppSt94]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

[Rekdiver]

Let's start a GoFundMe for NIL for App....

[t4pizza]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

This is why Saban retired when he did. While the coaches may not want to get players that are interested in the money, it appears that most players have become interested in the money. The market has changed the kids to a point that the main questions being asked (according to Saban) are 1- how much will I play and 2- how much will you pay me. The best of the best (SEC, BIG10 and other P4) expect to get paid in a big way and soon I imagine that everyone will expect to get paid.

[AppWyo]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

In some ways it looks like the P5 programs are feeding the G5 programs. Regardless of NIL most players still want to play and win.

[AppStFan1]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

It will never happen but if every school would just say no to the money then players would stop asking. As long as there are schools like Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M, etc willing to just buy players then it won't stop.

[AppStFan1]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

This is why Saban retired when he did. While the coaches may not want to get players that are interested in the money, it appears that most players have become interested in the money. The market has changed the kids to a point that the main questions being asked (according to Saban) are 1- how much will I play and 2- how much will you pay me. The best of the best (SEC, BIG10 and other P4) expect to get paid in a big way and soon I imagine that everyone will expect to get paid.

If all players at every level suddenly expect to get paid or else they just don't play then I think a lot of schools will have to drop football. We don't have the money, and won't anytime soon, to just pay every starter 100-150k and all the backups 25-50k. There are not even 60-70 schools who can truly afford to do all that either.

[AppWyo]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

This is why Saban retired when he did. While the coaches may not want to get players that are interested in the money, it appears that most players have become interested in the money. The market has changed the kids to a point that the main questions being asked (according to Saban) are 1- how much will I play and 2- how much will you pay me. The best of the best (SEC, BIG10 and other P4) expect to get paid in a big way and soon I imagine that everyone will expect to get paid.

If all players at every level suddenly expect to get paid or else they just don't play then I think a lot of schools will have to drop football. We don't have the money, and won't anytime soon, to just pay every starter 100-150k and all the backups 25-50k. There are not even 60-70 schools who can truly afford to do all that either.

I believe you will always have players that want to play. If that were not the case, schools would not have club sports teams. I think some will get caught up in the money, but the majority will not.

I see a future when teams are paid a bunch of money and it all falls apart in the locker room, because of someone not getting their share of what they believe they need to be paid and someone missing a block that causes a season if not career ending injury.

Besides, all the money in the world does not guarantee a winning season...

[311neers]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

While that sounds like the right idea and how it should be done, he's one of the last guys I would believe in the realm of college football.

[AppSt94]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

It will never happen but if every school would just say no to the money then players would stop asking. As long as there are schools like Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M, etc willing to just buy players then it won't stop.

I feel like there are some misnomers, or assumptions that schools are “buying” players. Sure some schools have donor bases with deeper pockets than others. However, the donors and the coaches are not in lock step on how NIL is used. As seen on this board, donors and fans are motivated by their beliefs of what needs to happen to win NOW. Examples, include play this guy, call this play, don’t call that one. So these donors with big bank accounts and even bigger egos will write checks. Coaches such as Saban and Kelly want and need players that want to work towards team goals, first. The coaches have to field questions and requests for NIL, but they don’t negotiate deals. That is what the collectives are for and a coach that is interested in winning isn’t going to compromise their locker room for a shiny new bauble.

[AppSt94]

G5 will become feeder program for P5 in the NIL era.

I don’t think coaches look at that way. They want players that want to play. They aren’t interested in guys looking for cash. Here is an article on Brian Kelly’s approach on transfers.

https://blondiewithlove.it/2024/05/08/b ... u40uI.html

“We were in the recruiting market in the transfer portal, looking for defensive linemen. Honestly, it didn’t go very well. Because we sell something a little differently: we want to recruit, we want to engage, build relationships, develop, retain and succeed. We are not in the market for buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that’s what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought,” Kelly said.

While that sounds like the right idea and how it should be done, he's one of the last guys I would believe in the realm of college football.

Saban said pretty much the same thing. You can hate the messenger, but it doesn’t mean the message is tainted.

[Stonewall]

The basketball preseason number 1 a couple of seasons ago let NIL , or had NIL destroy their locker room. Kids with big money flaunting it in front teammates. They didn’t make the tournament as I recall.

[Black Saturday]

The basketball preseason number 1 a couple of seasons ago let NIL , or had NIL destroy their locker room. Kids with big money flaunting it in front teammates. They didn’t make the tournament as I recall.

Couldn't have happened to a better basketball program either. Ha Ha Ha

[spacemonkey]

The one FBS split I could support is the pays NIL vs Does not pay NIL. I also could get behind a top 25 for non paid NIL.

Any other split is a joke in so many ways. Different ways. The fact that UCF is considered non g5 and we are considered g5 is on such way. UCF is one of many on that list.

[311neers]

Y'all the only G5 team that's got a shot at the P5 is SMU and it's b/c they have the money. They are loaded to the hills and using the left over to wipe their butts. I see it first hand living here in Dallas and listening to their alums

If UCF and Boise can't make it then we can't either. Football is a different beast and a playoff against the best of the G5 and the P5s that got left out will be what we get.

SMU and UCF are now P4.

The Big12 is not the SEC or BIG10. When you distill down the conversation we're having its about the SEC and BIG10 separating from the rest of CFB.

Boise State coach just banned incoming freshman from making NIL money. Good for him. They might be a program that can be able to get away with that.

[goapps93]

Y'all the only G5 team that's got a shot at the P5 is SMU and it's b/c they have the money. They are loaded to the hills and using the left over to wipe their butts. I see it first hand living here in Dallas and listening to their alums

If UCF and Boise can't make it then we can't either. Football is a different beast and a playoff against the best of the G5 and the P5s that got left out will be what we get.

SMU and UCF are now P4.

The Big12 is not the SEC or BIG10. When you distill down the conversation we're having its about the SEC and BIG10 separating from the rest of CFB.

Boise State coach just banned incoming freshman from making NIL money. Good for him. They might be a program that can be able to get away with that.

That ain’t gonna last long.

[Black Saturday]

Why don''t we just throw NIL on taxpayers? Then everyone will have paid players. Sort of like student loan forgiveness. What's a few more billion among friends.