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Re: I've had it

Unread post by Mtneer » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:10 pm

I stopped listening at halftime - too painful. So what's the excuse gonna be this week?
Jerry's fault?
We're young?
Jerry's fault?
No Sean Price?
Jerry's fault?
Too many mistakes/penalties?
Jerry's fault?
No motivation?
Jerry's fault?
Satterfield doesn't have his players? - Oh yeah, that's Jerry's fault.
All you people drunk on the Satterfield Kool-Aid better wake up!

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:12 pm

Gonzo wrote:
mtnjax wrote:the PI call on Jones sounded like a load of BS. hard to win a game when the refs are taking drives away from you
Even harder when you have first and goal at the 1, only to get a false start followed by a pick 6.

The seniors are playing like they don't give a ****.
No leadership in the locker room.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:14 pm

Mtneer wrote:I stopped listening at halftime - too painful. So what's the excuse gonna be this week?
Jerry's fault?
We're young?
Jerry's fault?
No Sean Price?
Jerry's fault?
Too many mistakes/penalties?
Jerry's fault?
No motivation?
Jerry's fault?
Satterfield doesn't have his players? - Oh yeah, that's Jerry's fault.
All you people drunk on the Satterfield Kool-Aid better wake up!
Dude, why do things have to be so extreme? Nobody's drunk on anyone's Kool-Aid. Some folks just have enough sense to realize that things have changed and it's going to take some time to turn things around. But I guess as quickly as the bandwagon filled up it will also empty.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by Mtneer » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:23 pm

The continued horrendous performance of this team, IMO, is extreme. I just get tired of all the excuses, particularly the bash Jerry Moore ones. Satterfield is the head coach. It's his job to get better effort out of this team. It's embarrassing.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by APPRIDE » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:26 pm

why does coach say "those guys" when talking about our D?

It's always "them" and not "us" or "our guys". Our D is 50% of our team.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

That is exactly right. We finally put the ball down field and scored. Who recruited those guys? Sick and tired of the excuses. Why do we wait till the end of the game to throw down field? looks like the QB was able to throw it and the receiver was able to catch it, no matter who the hell recruited them. OUR PLAY CALLING SUCKS! PERIOD
sick to death of the excuses. We may not be able to win any games but I would like to see the coaches at least call some plays to try.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Mtneer wrote:The continued horrendous performance of this team, IMO, is extreme. I just get tired of all the excuses, particularly the bash Jerry Moore ones. Satterfield is the head coach. It's his job to get better effort out of this team. It's embarrassing.
Mtneer, you ever tried to squeeze blood from a turnip? Look Scott has his hands full. It's not as easy as we fans like to think it should be as we watch from the sidelines. I don't recall anyone in this thread blaming anything on Jerry Moore per se. There is no argument that there have been issues with our program for the last several years. I think a lot of our fans had expectations for this season that were far to great. I didn't expect us to be 1-6 but I did expect us to struggle a little bit. Until any of us are privy to the goings on during team meetings and game planning sessions I think we should be careful how we criticize. For all we know Scott and Co. could have had this game planned perfectly and then we go out and turn the ball over early on our first drive. Plans go out the window when play is poor. There's plenty of blame to go around.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:31 pm

The reasons this team got to 1-5 and now 1-6 can be debated, however motivating a team that had nothing but a modicum of pride is extremely difficult under the best circumstances. Motivating a team that's lost what pride it did have on a pair of blow out losses fuels by mistakes and sloppiness is damn near impossible, no matter how good a coach you are.

With 5 games left, hope for a 2-10 season, archiving the Ol' Jug in Boone for posterity, and look forward to the FBS with a team that may be short on age, but relatively long on playing time.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:32 pm

APPRIDE wrote:why does coach say "those guys" when talking about our D?

It's always "them" and not "us" or "our guys". Our D is 50% of our team.
I would not make much out of this. Scott has always played and coached on the offensive side of the ball. I will tell you from experience that on this level, though they are on the same team, the offense and defense compete constantly and it's really like they are two separate teams. He should get out of that as a head coach and he probably will but it will take time to lose that mentality.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by skjellyfetti » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:40 pm

Rush Limbaugh thinks our playcalling is too conservative

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by moehler » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:47 pm

93, I agree with you in principle, we are not there behind the scenes, we do not know what problems SS and the coaching staff inherited, and Im sure a lot of talent was redshirted for next year that could have played this year. But we just are not seeing the effort nor the team unity from a lot of players. Someone mention on another board, that they watch Bryant get sacked, and instead of any OL helping him up, they just went to the sidelines and left him there to pick himself up. This is all things that fall at the feet of the coaching staff, and you have to wonder how much respect the players have for SS. Now, I have been the biggest supporter of SS since he was hired, and up to this game, I have defended him and the coaching staff, on this board, and other boards, and I still believe that he should be given a chance WITH THE PLAYERS HE RECRUITS, atleast a couple of years, but a good coach will foster unity, and get the most out of his talent, regardless of wins/loses, I just don't see that right now, they seem to be regressing. Im still a supporter of this coaching staff, but Im starting to run out of patience.

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Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:55 pm

moehler wrote:93, I agree with you in principle, we are not there behind the scenes, we do not know what problems SS and the coaching staff inherited, and Im sure a lot of talent was redshirted for next year that could have played this year. But we just are not seeing the effort nor the team unity from a lot of players. Someone mention on another board, that they watch Bryant get sacked, and instead of any OL helping him up, they just went to the sidelines and left him there to pick himself up. This is all things that fall at the feet of the coaching staff, and you have to wonder how much respect the players have for SS. Now, I have been the biggest supporter of SS since he was hired, and up to this game, I have defended him and the coaching staff, on this board, and other boards, and I still believe that he should be given a chance WITH THE PLAYERS HE RECRUITS, atleast a couple of years, but a good coach will foster unity, and get the most out of his talent, regardless of wins/loses, I just don't see that right now, they seem to be regressing. Im still a supporter of this coaching staff, but Im starting to run out of patience.

What bothers me the most is that so many of us make comments that make it seem like it's so simple to do Scott's job. It's so easy for us to say the things we say because we are on the outside looking in. I imagine most of us would get upset if someone from outside of our own profession tried to tell us how to correct things that going wrong and how we should do things. You are right that a good coach will foster unity and get the most out of his talent. But I would debate it may take more than 7 games. There have been and still may be some cancers on this team that have been cut out and may still need to be. I don't like losing at all but I'm willing to give it more than 7 games.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by canes_mj » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:11 pm

There would be plenty of coaches to take this job. What kind of candidate pool does anyone think we're going to be drawing from? It's not going to be a Saban turns down Texas to stay at Bama situation. We're going to be getting coordinators getting their first jobs, and FCS and D-II guys on their way up. And when/if we get a good coach, he's here for 5 years at most before moving on to a bigger program.

It is vital that we have some form of early success during our formative FBS years. If not, the cycle of losing sets in and we may never escape from that. This is a team that tied for the SoCon championship last year. There is no excuse for this. For everyone counting on an improvement in coaching from year 1 to year 2, I ask why? What evidence is there for this line of thinking? Have you seen ANY improvement from week 1 until now? Head coaches can and do get fired after one season if it becomes apparent that a major mistake was made in the hire. It's time we started entertaining that idea. He's in over his head. Every aspect of the coaching of this team is terrible...organization, preparation, execution, motivation, etc, etc. I'd rather take the chances on some coaches passing up a job than take the chances of the irreparable damage to this program that could result if we go through 1 or 2 more years of this. What coach would want to take the job then, when we are a 2-3 win team at most on a yearly basis.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by appstate87 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:12 pm

I haven't posted in a while, mainly because I was still bitter over the way Coach Moore was let go.

But at this point, I don't even care anymore. Satterfield is a crap coach. We can't beat anybody with a pulse it seems. I'm just incredibly disappointed with my alma mater.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by ViewCrew87 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:22 pm

The TEAM is getting worse each week.....bottom line! Can't have 5 turnovers and expect to win. Sr throwing a pick 6..totally changed the game. Another Sr. trying to return the ball 8 yd's deep in the endzone?
The overall Sr. leadership is disturbing at this point.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:27 pm

How quickly we forget that it was Scott who coached our offense to our 3 National Championships. Oh yeah, we had better key players then. If that's the case, and it is, then you folks can't have it both ways. Sure great players make great coaches but even the best coaches have trouble when the talent level is lower. I said it before, probably in another thread, but I think it's funny how everybody is always an expert at everybody else's job. Sheesh, he's 7 games into his first year as a head coach. Let's pump our brakes a little here. We don't have a good QB. We have a true freshman starting at RB. A Center who can't seem to snap the ball to the QB. And the rest of the line can't give the QB any time to throw down field. For those who want to judge the whole game's play calling on a late game TD pass downfield, you need to remember the game was out of reach by then and things had been getting snippy on the field. I'm pretty sure Furman had let up a bit, both on pass rush and coverage. We have to remember that it's just not as easy as sometimes seems to the Saturday evening QBs/coaches.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by appstate87 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:32 pm

Just because he was a good offensive coordinator doesn't mean he will even be a decent head coach. Right now this team is such a train wreck and is so disappointing.

I didn't have a lot of expectations for this year, considering these kids went from playing for SoCon and national titles to playing for nothing but pride... but I didn't know it would get this out of hand.

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by YesAppCan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:39 pm

Anyone know why we call that last time out?

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Re: I've had it

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:41 pm

appstate87 wrote:Just because he was a good offensive coordinator doesn't mean he will even be a decent head coach. Right now this team is such a train wreck and is so disappointing.

I didn't have a lot of expectations for this year, considering these kids went from playing for SoCon and national titles to playing for nothing but pride... but I didn't know it would get this out of hand.

You're right but how 'bout we give him a chance? At least more than 7 games.
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Re: I've had it

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:45 pm

Turnovers were obviously the key to our defeat today. When you lose by 17 but outgain the opposition by 140 yards you have to chalk it up to poor fundamental play.

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