Aguilar Mention in ESPN Article

[Parks&RecAPP]

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"Joey Aguilar, App State: Aguilar has taken a fascinating journey to the Blue Ridge mountains, traveling across the country after playing junior college football in the Bay Area in 2022. He delivered the school's best-ever quarterbacking season, setting team records for passing yards (3,757), passing touchdowns (33), total offense (4,002 yards) and completions (293). The 6-3, 220-pound Aguilar is the only quarterback returning to the FBS who had at least 33 touchdown passes and 3,700 passing yards last season.

The Sun Belt preseason Offensive Player of the Year will lead an Appalachian State team heavily favored to win the league.

"He was good," a Sun Belt coach said. "He wasn't [Grayson] McCall from Coastal, but he did what they did well, he ran their system well. That was a positive."

[kornegaylw]

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"He was good," a Sun Belt coach said. "He wasn't [Grayson] McCall from Coastal, but he did what they did well, he ran their system well. That was a positive."

Talk about a jealous back handed comment LOL

Grayson is a solid QB and I think he'll do well at NCSU...But if I'm building a balanced team I want a QB like Joey not Grayson.

[Black Saturday]

Without Aguilar, not sure what our record would have been last year? I don't believe the punk from MB would have done better.

McCall is a warrior. It'll be interesting to see what he does at State.

[BambooRdApp]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

[kornegaylw]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

[AppFan11]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

[asumba95]

We'll find in in week 2 which QB has the chops against tough competition. ASU vs Clemson and NC State vs Tennessee (in CLT)

[Bigdaddyg1]

It’s fun to have rival teams to hate but I don’t get not giving GM props. The dude made some crazy improv plays and when healthy is phenomenal. Hard to say how it would have gone had he signed with us but that ship sailed long ago. There are a ton of college quarterbacks who are able to put up big numbers (in college) and nearly all of them wilt in the pros but that’s irrelevant to me. Half of my money goes to NCSU with one of my boys a senior (thank goodness) there. I’ll admit I’ve never been a hater of really any team so there will be times I’ll root for the mullet head.

[AppDub]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

[Bootsy]

McCall has had a fantastic run. But over the past few years, he reminds me more and more of Roger Staubach in 1978-79: still has the ability to flash brilliance, but is one big hit away from a season/career-ending injury.

Love Grayson or hate him, it’s utterly shameful how Chadwell used and abused that kid. Had he stayed healthy, it’s quite possible McCall would be on an NFL roster now. Hard to say if that is still the case.

[Apple@chin1]

Jamey Chadwell was to Grayson McCall as Steve Spurrier was to Marcus Lattimore. 2 amazingly talented players physically ruined by greedy coaches.

[AppStFan1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This has been my thought on McCall. He is coming off injuries and going to be in a new system with a whole new team so it will be interesting to see how he looks. He went from being POY in the SBC to not even making the All-Sun Belt team in 2023 so he has something to prove.

As for the first QB you have to remember that Armanti was drafted and played QB, even though they drafted him for another position. I still think they should have given him a shot to play QB.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

[AppStFan1]

McCall has had a fantastic run. But over the past few years, he reminds me more and more of Roger Staubach in 1978-79: still has the ability to flash brilliance, but is one big hit away from a season/career-ending injury.

Love Grayson or hate him, it’s utterly shameful how Chadwell used and abused that kid. Had he stayed healthy, it’s quite possible McCall would be on an NFL roster now. Hard to say if that is still the case.

So true. Remember he got dinged up late in his redshirt sophomore year and announced he was coming back for one more year but then got hurt as a junior and came back for another year. If he had been healthy as a redshirt sophomore I think he comes out and gets drafted. Instead of coming out early he is actually taking the extra year due to COVID. I do wonder what the medical tests will say at the combine.

[AppStFan1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

Hard to argue a G5 player would be top 5 for Heisman unless they play lights out against lower level competition and dominate against a P4 opponent. I don't think there is a G5 QB this year that would be worthy of being close to the conversation at the moment. Joey is one of a few who have a real chance to play their way into that discussion. I would think that the Boise State RB could be in the discussion if he has another big year. He probably has the most name recognition of any G5 player right now.

[AppDub]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

Absolutely. Zappe was off the charts good and didn't get a sniff for Hesiman. It was quite a shame, but the NFL saw value in him and he latched on with the Patriots.

[AppDub]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

Hard to argue a G5 player would be top 5 for Heisman unless they play lights out against lower level competition and dominate against a P4 opponent. I don't think there is a G5 QB this year that would be worthy of being close to the conversation at the moment. Joey is one of a few who have a real chance to play their way into that discussion. I would think that the Boise State RB could be in the discussion if he has another big year. He probably has the most name recognition of any G5 player right now.

At the same time, I wouldn't be suprised if he has a pedestrian year and doesn't even get a combine invite. Wondering if he missed his window. Then again, he could throw for 4000 yards. Who knows?

[BambooRdApp]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

Absolutely. Zappe was off the charts good and didn't get a sniff for Hesiman. It was quite a shame, but the NFL saw value in him and he latched on with the Patriots.

Although he probably would not have won even if he went undefeated due to he played below P level and voters are biased...I seem to remember their record was like 7-5 or 8-4 going into bowl....that definitely did not help.
The only way a Group conference level QB gets a sniff is if their team plays more than one good P level team ..and the QB lights them up for 300 to 350 yards...in both games..and the team wins both...
Then lights up the rest of conference opponents.. .then they may get mentioned...but probably not going to win...and that is too bad ..as there are some good Group conference players out there

[huskie3]

The Heisman has more to do with promotion by media than outstanding stats. Production does count if name isn’t out there

[AppStFan1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This is a solid post. NC State has brought in/return a ton of supporting cast for McCall to succeed, however they are getting him on the back side of a banged up career. Will be interesting to see if he delivers what they hope for. As for Joey, he could absolutely have a shot to be a late round pick in the draft if he has a good year. I dont think there is any wayt he will even get a sniff for a Hesman no matter what stats he brings due to the arrogance of P4, but draft prospect is possible.

Seems like most every year there is always a really good G5 quarterback who puts up fantastic numbers but is rarely in the Heisman discussion. Didn’t Bailey Zappe put up some pretty impressive stats?

Hard to argue a G5 player would be top 5 for Heisman unless they play lights out against lower level competition and dominate against a P4 opponent. I don't think there is a G5 QB this year that would be worthy of being close to the conversation at the moment. Joey is one of a few who have a real chance to play their way into that discussion. I would think that the Boise State RB could be in the discussion if he has another big year. He probably has the most name recognition of any G5 player right now.

At the same time, I wouldn't be suprised if he has a pedestrian year and doesn't even get a combine invite. Wondering if he missed his window. Then again, he could throw for 4000 yards. Who knows?

I think you are right. If he has a big year they will invite him but if he has a below average year I could see him being passed over.