Moving On to ECU

[AppSt94]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

So wining the conference is now mediocre?

[Parks&RecAPP]

ECU. qb has thrown 7 INTs already in TWO games!!! 7 picks in two games. WTF.

App by 90!!!!!!!!!

How is he still starting? and how are they 2-0 with a QB that can tell the difference between his team and the other team?

Anyone can be a football player these days wow!

taking App and the under!!

Here's to hoping Favors has a field day!

[AppSt91]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

So wining the conference is now mediocre?

Not winning the conference in 5 years is.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Someone who cares please look at every D1 conference and let us know who the regular season football champs were for each of the last 5 years. I’m willing to bet that in each one there are pretty good teams who have not won their conference. This isn’t to say that I personally accept whatever level of success we are currently on but to say that it’s not that easy to win.

[AppSt94]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

So wining the conference is now mediocre?

Not winning the conference in 5 years is.

So he clearly says that the goal is winning the Sun Belt Championship. So I’m not understanding the snarky comment about mediocrity. But you know what? You do you.

[Saint3333]

Someone who cares please look at every D1 conference and let us know who the regular season football champs were for each of the last 5 years. I’m willing to bet that in each one there are pretty good teams who have not won their conference. This isn’t to say that I personally accept whatever level of success we are currently on but to say that it’s not that easy to win.

This is very true there are plenty of good teams that haven't won their conference in the last five years or even ten years. However good is not the standard at App State.

Also true being great isn't easy.

There are three App State graduating classes since the mid-80's that did not win a conference championship, 2003, 2004, and 2023.

Get better this week and make a statement vs. a very average ECU.

[AppSt94]

I’m sure the “good” isn’t the standard at the 122 teams that don’t win a championship each year either. Winning championships as a standard is not something that is unique and exclusive to App.

[AppSt91]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

So wining the conference is now mediocre?

Not winning the conference in 5 years is.

So he clearly says that the goal is winning the Sun Belt Championship. So I’m not understanding the snarky comment about mediocrity. But you know what? You do you.

Put me on ignore and you’ll never hear from me again.

[BTK2000]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

It was sarcasm. my bad. I’ve just heard that phrase in way to many press conferences

[yosef69]

I’m sure the “good” isn’t the standard at the 122 teams that don’t win a championship each year either. Winning championships as a standard is not something that is unique and exclusive to App.

Why are you okay with just being another run of the mill G5?

[AppSt94]

Nothing warms my soul and lets me know it’s another app state football season than “all of our goals are still in-front of us

Is mediocrity now a goal?

It was sarcasm. my bad. I’ve just heard that phrase in way to many press conferences

I get it. I can understand the frustration. Tony Dungy used to talk about “we need to clean some things up” every week after a Buc’s loss.

At the same time, I get it from the coach’s perspective. He has a job to get his guys back to neutral mentally Wins and losses need to be kept in perspective and he has to come across as positive. I’m sure that the conversation within the facility are more direct and the criticism is constructive.

[Saint3333]

I’m sure the “good” isn’t the standard at the 122 teams that don’t win a championship each year either. Winning championships as a standard is not something that is unique and exclusive to App.

Difference is we historically don't just say it, we execute on it. That historically is unique and exclusive to less than 15 programs and App was one of them.

[Denverapp16]

I’m sure the “good” isn’t the standard at the 122 teams that don’t win a championship each year either. Winning championships as a standard is not something that is unique and exclusive to App.

Why are you okay with just being another run of the mill G5?

Seems this message board is. I know the climate has changed and previous success will be tough but..... going from being proud when they always showed our record from 15-19 being 54-12 ranking in the top 5 in CFB.
34-19 is not getting it done to the App standard . But alot of ball left this year............. losing saturday and im off the clark wagon though .

[AppSt94]

I’m sure the “good” isn’t the standard at the 122 teams that don’t win a championship each year either. Winning championships as a standard is not something that is unique and exclusive to App.

Difference is we historically don't just say it, we execute on it. That historically is unique and exclusive to less than 15 programs and App was one of them.

I’m not doing this with you anymore. The circumstances of today are a vastly different set of variables than the past. SoCon titles were easier because we could out athlete most of our opponents. Our national titles were clustered around a collection of core players that were special. How many times did we appear in the national title without Corey Lynch and K-Rich? The GOAT didn’t win one without those guys. The Sun Belt titles were won in a very weak league with a group of very special player. That group started to matriculate out as Clark took over and the guys in Satt’s last class and Drink’s tenure were mostly non-contributors. Then CoVid hits and in person evaluation is non-existent. Then you have extended eligibility, the portal and then NIL. All of these were factors that caused depth issues which affects on field results. Whether you want to acknowledge that these were hurdles then that is up to you.

I realize that none of the above is going to change the mind of the “no excuses” crowd. It is what it is. I just ask that you step back from the pulpit and ask how you would react if someone came to you, with no knowledge of what you deal with in your jobs on a daily basis, or has no real investment in your performance and judges you on your results and went to your boss and demanded that you be replaced.

[Saint3333]

You are going to continue to do this with me or put me on ignore, which is fine. You don't like the uncomfortable truths I bring to the table. I'm not going anywhere no matter how personal you attempt to make this interaction.

Your claim we were able to win against our peers for a period, but now we should accept performing below our peers is illogical. The excuses are hollow, everyone was dealing with those same issues across the CFB landscape. Your ties to the staff/media are preventing you from having an objective conversation.

When you sign up to be one of the 130 HC in CFB this discussion comes with the job, you know this, and every HC knows this.

I've not called for anyone to be fired, just the opposite I've asked everyone to wait until 10/1 to consider what our season expectations should be.

[appgrad95&97]

I may have miscounted, but I think we are 22-19 v. FBS opponents since the beginning of the 2020 season. If that's right, that's pretty mediocre.

[Saint3333]

29-19 is the FBS record since 2020, or 60%, that's good.

[Stonewall]

I think I’m a crowd of one , no excuses. I’ve invested a lot of money , time and effort over more decades than I will mention. I saw improvement last year and expect improvement this season. Largely based on conversations I have had with those responsible for making it happen. I invested. Now it’s up to them to produce . Beating EZU will be a step in the right direction. A loss will be a clear indication that we have regressed, at least in relationship to the Pirates. The conference race will play out through the weeks ahead and we will know where we stand in the Sunbelt.

[311neers]

29-19 is the FBS record since 2020, or 60%, that's good.

What are we against FBS teams that finished the season with a winning record under Clark's tenure?

[mike87]

Pro-Clark or not Pro-Clark, whatever. But did anybody really think we would be anywhere other than 1-1 at this point? Title of the thread. Move on to ECU. Those giant killers of ODU and Norfolk State. Time for App to do some App stuff.