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Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:24 pm

Please stop throwing pick 6's. They are huge.
Please stop throwing pick 6's. They decide games.
Please stop throwing pick 6's.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:37 pm

AppAttack wrote:Please stop throwing pick 6's. They are huge.
Please stop throwing pick 6's. They decide games.
Please stop throwing pick 6's.
I'm guessing you saw Kam get hit from his back side just as he was throwing - an INT and Pick 6 but not on the QB in my opinion ---
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Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:40 pm

huskie3 wrote:Blocking, tackling, catching, being prepared for fakes (Brownie actually called it on the radio before they ran it.)

If Brownie is so knowledgable why is he not still in coaching? I am so tired of his second guessing everything that I do not listen to the post game any more.
We got scorched twice on punts. If I'm at home and ahead I'm looking for fakes. It would also be nice if we could tackle a punter before he has time to drop the ball and still run 20 yards for a 1st. It's usually two plays like that and a pick 6 that are back breakers. Instead of winning by 2 td's you lose by a TD. I really don't think we're far off (talent-wise, at least). Mental aspects just aren't there but can be corrected going forward.

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Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:45 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Please stop throwing pick 6's. They are huge.
Please stop throwing pick 6's. They decide games.
Please stop throwing pick 6's.
I'm guessing you saw Kam get hit from his back side just as he was throwing - an INT and Pick 6 but not on the QB in my opinion ---
Give him more time then. What about A&T just before halftime? Furman? My point is this pattern of stupid, devastating 14-point plays needs to stop. It's just too difficult to overcome.

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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:48 pm

This young team just doesn't have the "clutch gene". There are 3 games App would have won if not for 1 or 2 bonehead plays such as kick return for TD, 3 pick 6's, not covering punt and FG fakes, and untimely turnovers. Some is on players execution and some is on coaching. At least this team has shown some heart and fight the last couple of weeks.

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:25 pm

AppAttack wrote:Give him more time then. What about A&T just before halftime? Furman?

Kam didn't throw the pick six at Furman.

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Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:29 pm

appst89 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
huskie3 wrote:Blocking, tackling, catching, being prepared for fakes (Brownie actually called it on the radio before they ran it.)

If Brownie is so knowledgable why is he not still in coaching? I am so tired of his second guessing everything that I do not listen to the post game any more.
personal preference --- I appreciate his honest opinion and he really knows the game ---
I'm glad we have someone who will tell it like it is.

Yep. Brownie has said things I really didn't want to hear, but he's never been wrong.
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Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:38 pm

huskie3 wrote:Blocking, tackling, catching, being prepared for fakes (Brownie actually called it on the radio before they ran it.)

If Brownie is so knowledgable why is he not still in coaching? I am so tired of his second guessing everything that I do not listen to the post game any more.
Not every good player makes a good coach. Not every good coach makes a good announcer. The reverse is also true.

And having the skills to be a good coach does not mean one has to be a coach. Maybe he does not like the hours. Maybe he does not like the stress. Maybe he would be a sorry coach. Regardless of all of that he is a good announcer and adds a lot to the game in my view.

I like his honest, as he sees it, opinion.
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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:33 pm

Aren't we all second guessers here on MMB?
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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:35 pm

AppAttack wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Please stop throwing pick 6's. They are huge.
Please stop throwing pick 6's. They decide games.
Please stop throwing pick 6's.
I'm guessing you saw Kam get hit from his back side just as he was throwing - an INT and Pick 6 but not on the QB in my opinion ---
Give him more time then. What about A&T just before halftime? Furman? My point is this pattern of stupid, devastating 14-point plays needs to stop. It's just too difficult to overcome.
Just like allowing so many 3rd Down conversions.
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Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:28 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
huskie3 wrote:Blocking, tackling, catching, being prepared for fakes (Brownie actually called it on the radio before they ran it.)

If Brownie is so knowledgable why is he not still in coaching? I am so tired of his second guessing everything that I do not listen to the post game any more.
Not every good player makes a good coach. Not every good coach makes a good announcer. The reverse is also true.

And having the skills to be a good coach does not mean one has to be a coach. Maybe he does not like the hours. Maybe he does not like the stress. Maybe he would be a sorry coach. Regardless of all of that he is a good announcer and adds a lot to the game in my view.

I like his honest, as he sees it, opinion.

Cobb reigned him in on the excess criticism. Now, he critiques without actually criticizing. Good strategy.
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Unread post by AppState89 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:46 am

SpeedkingATL wrote:This young team just doesn't have the "clutch gene". There are 3 games App would have won if not for 1 or 2 bonehead plays such as kick return for TD, 3 pick 6's, not covering punt and FG fakes, and untimely turnovers. Some is on players execution and some is on coaching. At least this team has shown some heart and fight the last couple of weeks.
Great post. You hit it on the head. "YOUNG TEAM" and I will add "YOUNG COACH", meaning his first year coaching. We will get out coached, but he will learn from mistakes just like our young team.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:58 am

AppState89 wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote:This young team just doesn't have the "clutch gene". There are 3 games App would have won if not for 1 or 2 bonehead plays such as kick return for TD, 3 pick 6's, not covering punt and FG fakes, and untimely turnovers. Some is on players execution and some is on coaching. At least this team has shown some heart and fight the last couple of weeks.
Great post. You hit it on the head. "YOUNG TEAM" and I will add "YOUNG COACH", meaning his first year coaching. We will get out coached, but he will learn from mistakes just like our young team.

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:15 am

kgblade wrote:Today was evidence that our coaching is absolutely lost. That was the worst direction, during the game, for these kids I have seen this year. It is also the worst I have seen at App in a long, long time. I now believe that there has to be a coaching change and it can't wait another year. Chatty was so much better prepared from a coaching standpoint that it was embarrassing. You want arses in the seat? Have a well prepared, fundamentally sound team week in and week out. That will deliver the fans. This train wreck or anything similar will not.
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Oh, you're serious. :oops:

Well then, this post is teetering on ridiculous. I imagine that experienced HC's would be lining up to coach at a school that fired the prodigal son after his first season ever being a HC in a transitional season? Let's be realistic.

Yes, Satterfield got out-coached yesterday. That's what happens to first-year HC's against experienced HC's. That happens in almost every profession when a newbie goes up against a seasoned vet.

As for the game being embarrassing, we must have been at two different games. I saw the "better prepared" team need a fortunate pick-6 and two fake ST plays to beat a 2-6 team. The bottom line is that our team (coaches and players) haven't learned how to close a game yet. That takes time. When dealing in reality, firing Satterfield after this season is lunacy.
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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:16 am

TheMoody1 wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Give him more time then. What about A&T just before halftime? Furman?

Kam didn't throw the pick six at Furman.
Nor the one against A&T just before the half.
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Unread post by Mike Holloway » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:52 am

Just my $.02:

This season has been the perfect storm between injuries, suspensions, inexperienced players, a first-time head coach, adjusting to a new defense and playing in a transitional season. Some games it has been special teams, some it has been defense and some it has been offense. The building blocks are there and I think this team will bounce back and be much improved in 2014.

The back-loaded schedule also makes it a bit harder to see the progress. Georgia Southern was decimated by injuries but App dominated the game and I don't think the result was purely a mirage. UTC is 7-2 and first place in the SoCon for a reason. Their front seven is the best App has seen all season and a big hit from the blind side is what led to the pick six.

Blowing out GSU and then going toe-to-toe with arguably the best team in the SoCon who needed a fake FG, fake punt and a pick six to win by a TD is an improvement. This team needs to learn how to close out games but they are getting better. Comparing the last two games to the two before them (Samford, Furman), there has been noticeable progress.

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Unread post by AppAlum1 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:33 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:Not every good player makes a good coach. Not every good coach makes a good announcer.
OK, I cannot resist adding that EVERYONE makes a good critic.

FTR, I think Brownie hits the nail on the head more often than not. To be able to do that AS IT HAPPENS, rather than in hindsight, is a talent. Heck, in hindsight, I'm brilliant.

Who can say that Satterfield was not recognizing EXACTLY the same things Brownie did? Players play, coaches coach; and sometimes the players perform the way the coaches want.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 am

AppAlum1 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:Not every good player makes a good coach. Not every good coach makes a good announcer.
OK, I cannot resist adding that EVERYONE makes a good critic.

FTR, I think Brownie hits the nail on the head more often than not. To be able to do that AS IT HAPPENS, rather than in hindsight, is a talent. Heck, in hindsight, I'm brilliant.

Who can say that Satterfield was not recognizing EXACTLY the same things Brownie did? Players play, coaches coach; and sometimes the players perform the way the coaches want.
Obviously, the same could be said of all the ASU coaches throughout our long history.
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