Realistic coaching options for 2025...

[Saint3333]

How does a poster make a potential coach about themselves? Strange.

By my count, there are about 19 here doing that by taking information that they glean from behind a paywall, and bring it over here just to gloat about that they know something. It's almost as if their Dad didn't give them enough pats on the head when they were a child.

Nope that's not what I'm talking about, what you're describing is middle school behavior and I agree it's silly.

This is the part that's strange - "I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it." Your age (not the coaches age) has nothing to do with the conversation or thought process of what makes a good coach.

[Stonewall]

No decision. Interviews ongoing. Strong intetrst pool. Just got stronger . Who is “ the best fit” ?

[appsfan]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

Agree. Adding that uprooting your family to come here knowing the leash might be short is a red flag.

The "short" leash can be offset in the coach's contract. Negotiate a large enough buy out as a coach that it will be unlikely (unaffordable) to be fired in the first three or four years. That should give him enough leash to show what he can do.

[appgrad95&97]

It is hard to imagine that any candidate wouldn't understand why Clark was let go. And if they had questions about that, they could be shown any one of Clarks post-loss pressers. I'd personally like a coach who seemed to understand why we lost. And frankly, I don't want any coach who is afraid of the expectation that we win conference titles.

[311neers]

Wouldn’t mind taking a look at Tino Sunseri. That last name might be familiar for some of y’all. Has been apart of some pretty good teams lately.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

If they are worried about getting fired in 3-4 years, not sure we want them. And the uprooting the family part is strange because if they do well, they’ll get a higher paying job elsewhere to uproot their family to, it’s the life of a coach until you’ve made it to the top.

[Appmountaineers19]

Wouldn’t mind taking a look at Tino Sunseri. That last name might be familiar for some of y’all. Has been apart of some pretty good teams lately.

The 2nd best Pitt QB

[App91]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

If that is a concern for a prospective coach, then wouldn't want him anyway.

[Boonedoc]

[EastHallApp]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

I think when people say stuff like that, what they almost always mean is "I, personally, didn't want the coach to be fired, so I am going to make up a scenario in which potential job candidates share my belief so that it winds up being damaging to the program."

Nothing about Clark's firing was unusual. He was not fired rashly. He took over a program that was at its highest point ever, and under his watch, it was on a clear downward trend over five years. Not saying it was 100% his fault, but that's what happened.

Miami fired Larry Coker with an overall record of 60-15 and a national title. And everyone understood why. He inherited the most talented roster in college football history, and every year he was coach, the team got a little worse. His record looked great, but he took the program from great to mediocre.

[Kafarmer]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

Agree. Adding that uprooting your family to come here knowing the leash might be short is a red flag.

For any of you who don’t think this pops into potential coaches minds, you’re off base. Is it the first thought? Nope. But, if you’re not trying to figure pros and cons in making your decisions, then yes, you list it.

[App91]

Wouldn’t mind taking a look at Tino Sunseri. That last name might be familiar for some of y’all. Has been apart of some pretty good teams lately.

Too late, headed to UCLA

[EMCasu04]

No decision. Interviews ongoing. Strong intetrst pool. Just got stronger . Who is “ the best fit” ?

“Just got stronger” signifies to me DG is moving on from focus on Brown? Any surprise candidates?

[BeauFoster]

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[AppYosef!]

No decision. Interviews ongoing. Strong intetrst pool. Just got stronger . Who is “ the best fit” ?

By "Just got stronger' do you mean a new name has entered the mix?

[BallantyneApp]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

Agree. Adding that uprooting your family to come here knowing the leash might be short is a red flag.

For any of you who don’t think this pops into potential coaches minds, you’re off base. Is it the first thought? Nope. But, if you’re not trying to figure pros and cons in making your decisions, then yes, you list it.

anyone who is thinking that with what Clark inherited to where we are now isn't the guy anyway so no problem there.

[BeauFoster]

No decision. Interviews ongoing. Strong intetrst pool. Just got stronger . Who is “ the best fit” ?

By "Just got stronger' do you mean a new name has entered the mix?

Stonewall has good sources. I just interviewed. NattyBumpo is my DC, EricSaid is OC and QB coach. I’m just waiting on the offer at this point. We’ve agreed to all terms.

[BallantyneApp]

No decision. Interviews ongoing. Strong intetrst pool. Just got stronger . Who is “ the best fit” ?

thanks and good to hear if not terribly surprising. I'm hoping for the right candidate we can offer $1.3-1.4 which is broadly in line for G5 schools nowadays (Umass just signed Rutgers DC for that amount.)

[t4pizza]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

I think when people say stuff like that, what they almost always mean is "I, personally, didn't want the coach to be fired, so I am going to make up a scenario in which potential job candidates share my belief so that it winds up being damaging to the program."

Nothing about Clark's firing was unusual. He was not fired rashly. He took over a program that was at its highest point ever, and under his watch, it was on a clear downward trend over five years. Not saying it was 100% his fault, but that's what happened.

Miami fired Larry Coker with an overall record of 60-15 and a national title. And everyone understood why. He inherited the most talented roster in college football history, and every year he was coach, the team got a little worse. His record looked great, but he took the program from great to mediocre.

I get that point of view for sure. And I agree, he wasn't fired rashly, was given more time than most would have been and sadly earned the result. But I do still think that it could scare some coaches off, not the type of coach we want so I'm fine if they get scared off. Personally, I hope it scares Brown off because I don't want him coaching our mountaineers.

[311neers]

Wouldn’t mind taking a look at Tino Sunseri. That last name might be familiar for some of y’all. Has been apart of some pretty good teams lately.

Too late, headed to UCLA

Tough to compete with the big10/pac12 or whatever conference they’re in now. He would be OC there but that probably trumps going back to G5 as a HC. Never know though!