Realistic coaching options for 2025...

[hapapp]

Galloway has ties here so you at least owe him an interview. He also checks some other boxes for a public institution when doing a job search.

Understand your points, but:

1) Strongly disagree that we "owe" him an interview. He was at App for three years almost 20 years ago. If we owe everyone an interview who's ever been on staff at App, we might wrap up the search in time for fall camp.

2) I'm not saying the guy's a bad coach. I don't know. But he's essentially a WR coach who also has the distinction of having spent the last few years as AHC at a program that just fired its head coach and has all but publicly said they need to hire a new coach who will change the culture so they aren't so soft.

3) To your second point, that one's more understandable, but could we not bring in someone who checks that same box and is also a legitimate candidate for the job?

OK, maybe not owe him, but it doesn't hurt the process to give him some time. Also, why go look for someone else to interview that your not going to hire if you have someone asking for an interview?

I mean, is it crazy to think there might be at least one minority coach in America who would be both a plausible candidate and interested in the job?

It might be a courtesy to someone else. I'm not sure why folks are such up in arms over an interview. My guess is we have conducted "interviews" with a host of interested parties.

[bcoach]

Here is what I know. jmu went after a guy with a 44-21 record at his last job and they had a very good year considering the players they lost.
Indiana went 11-1 in a weak big 10 with a bunch of jmu players and a winning coach.
What I hear from our fans is guys like Satterfield who is 25-25 and 8-16 at his last two jobs and Neal Brown who is 37-35 over the last 6 years and an nfl asst coach with no college experience. We need to go after a winner not a maybe.
If our fans have any say at all in hiring we are screwed. ( yes I know they don't... well maybe a couple)

Any coach we hire is going to be a maybe.

Well I think your odds improve if he is a winner at his last job instead of "maybe" he can figure out how to win.

[falcoapp]

Expecting some rumors today...

[mike87]

36 pages of rumors right here.

[App91]

Update:

UNC WR COACH Lonnie Galloway was interviewed.
South Carolina OC Dowell Loggains was interviewed.

Carry on.

Oh man, we are reaching. I wouldn’t mind Loggains, but Gamecock fans weren’t originally happy with that hire at all. They might have changed their tune though after their successful year, but that’s more credit to the defense than the offense.

Serious question. What would you consider to not be a reach? I’m not saying that these would be my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice, but it might be what we are down to through interest, background checks or guys pulling their names from consideration. There are a lot of moving parts and a lot of what we know is based on speculation of what might have occurred.

Shawn Elliott is a better option than either of these two.

oooof! But you aren't wrong

[App91]

Who’s tracking flights?

I have been … I will admit it.

DG is not in Boone, I would guess

I have been monitoring flights coming into KHKY. Outside of that I am not sure. Maybe I should start checking departures.

Wasn't it Wilkesboro when Drunk was hired?

[asu7]

The longer this takes the worse it gets I think.

It’s been less than a week coming off a holiday. We didn’t do a national search and take our time last coach “search”.

No problem if our timeline stretches into next week imo

Early next week we are good. If we make it to Friday without a coach then something is off.

I bet there have been conversations even before Clark was fired. A good AD I would think would always have a few ideas in their pockets. So I think the longer this thing goes the worse it gets.

[booneboy92]

Who’s tracking flights?

I have been … I will admit it.

DG is not in Boone, I would guess

I thought I’d read that he was conducting in person interviews at a hotel in Charlotte.

Well we know Woods is in Charlotte this weekend for ACC CG. My questions about him
are… IF he is the guy, IF SMU beats Clemson and IF SMU goes to the CFP, will Woods continue with them till the end of their season? If so, that could be a long time before he actually gets here and gets started.
I think he’s a long shot, but again, these are all big IF’s.

[bcoach]

Update:

UNC WR COACH Lonnie Galloway was interviewed.
South Carolina OC Dowell Loggains was interviewed.

Carry on.

Oh man, we are reaching. I wouldn’t mind Loggains, but Gamecock fans weren’t originally happy with that hire at all. They might have changed their tune though after their successful year, but that’s more credit to the defense than the offense.

Serious question. What would you consider to not be a reach? I’m not saying that these would be my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice, but it might be what we are down to through interest, background checks or guys pulling their names from consideration. There are a lot of moving parts and a lot of what we know is based on speculation of what might have occurred.

Shawn Elliott is a better option than either of these two.

oooof! But you aren't wrong

Better question is why would he want to leave the job he has now? Good money and he is "home" where his family stayed when he went to Atlanta. I would be shocked if he would move if he could keep the job where he is at.

[JTApps1]

Galloway has ties here so you at least owe him an interview. He also checks some other boxes for a public institution when doing a job search.

Understand your points, but:

1) Strongly disagree that we "owe" him an interview. He was at App for three years almost 20 years ago. If we owe everyone an interview who's ever been on staff at App, we might wrap up the search in time for fall camp.

2) I'm not saying the guy's a bad coach. I don't know. But he's essentially a WR coach who also has the distinction of having spent the last few years as AHC at a program that just fired its head coach and has all but publicly said they need to hire a new coach who will change the culture so they aren't so soft.

3) To your second point, that one's more understandable, but could we not bring in someone who checks that same box and is also a legitimate candidate for the job?

OK, maybe not owe him, but it doesn't hurt the process to give him some time. Also, why go look for someone else to interview that your not going to hire if you have someone asking for an interview?

I mean, is it crazy to think there might be at least one minority coach in America who would be both a plausible candidate and interested in the job?

Not at all, but I wouldn't chase down a guy for that reason if you have one or two coaches already interested. Let's say Brown is the guy you want, why would you go out an actively pursue another guy, and therefore waste his time, if you can do that with someone that has ties and has already put their name in like Galloway?

If DJ is interested you have someone that is qualified enough to legitimately consider and checks that box. He is a win-win.

[booneboy92]

I’m pretty sure Elliott, like several others, decided he wanted nothing more to do with what a HC’s role has become.

[97APP]

So if I'm up to date (without any inside or paid subscription sources) our rumored candidates are:

Neal Brown (former Troy & WVU HC & OC - already interviewed - under serious consideration)
Drew Cronic (Former HC & current Navy OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Casey Woods (current SMU OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
DJ Smith (current Missouri Co-DC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Shannon Dawson (current Miami OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Clayton White (current South Carolina DC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Dowell Loggains (current South Carolina OC - already interviewed - under consideration ?)
Lonnie Galloway (current UNC WR coach - already interviewed - under consideration ?)

Am I missing anyone or are any of the above not really candidates (known rumors - I'm sure there are candidates that aren't out there publicly)?

[ASUTodd]

So if I'm up to date (without any inside or paid subscription sources) our rumored candidates are:

Neal Brown (former Troy & WVU HC & OC - already interviewed - under serious consideration)
Drew Cronic (Former HC & current Navy OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Casey Woods (current SMU OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
DJ Smith (current Missouri Co-DC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Shannon Dawson (current Miami OC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Clayton White (current South Carolina DC - interviewed ? - under consideration ?)
Dowell Loggains (current South Carolina OC - already interviewed - under consideration ?)
Lonnie Galloway (current UNC WR coach - already interviewed - under consideration ?)

Am I missing anyone or are any of the above not really candidates (known rumors - I'm sure there are candidates that aren't out there publicly)?

Kerwin Bell has his name in this at one time..... At least he got mentioned in a few articles and such.

[asu7]

Can anyone confirm that Cronic is interested? I really like Cronic.

[boonetodd]

Man that is a underwhelming list.

[EastHallApp]

Galloway has ties here so you at least owe him an interview. He also checks some other boxes for a public institution when doing a job search.

Understand your points, but:

1) Strongly disagree that we "owe" him an interview. He was at App for three years almost 20 years ago. If we owe everyone an interview who's ever been on staff at App, we might wrap up the search in time for fall camp.

2) I'm not saying the guy's a bad coach. I don't know. But he's essentially a WR coach who also has the distinction of having spent the last few years as AHC at a program that just fired its head coach and has all but publicly said they need to hire a new coach who will change the culture so they aren't so soft.

3) To your second point, that one's more understandable, but could we not bring in someone who checks that same box and is also a legitimate candidate for the job?

OK, maybe not owe him, but it doesn't hurt the process to give him some time. Also, why go look for someone else to interview that your not going to hire if you have someone asking for an interview?

I mean, is it crazy to think there might be at least one minority coach in America who would be both a plausible candidate and interested in the job?

It might be a courtesy to someone else. I'm not sure why folks are such up in arms over an interview. My guess is we have conducted "interviews" with a host of interested parties.

If people are up in arms, it's probably just that they worry that any name they see as having interviewed could potentially be the hire.

I don't mean to give the impression that I'm THAT worried about it. Just disagreed with the idea that we somehow owed Galloway an interview, and think that time probably could have been put to better use.

[appstate24]

Brown, Cronic, Woods all look like good options to me.

GO APPS!!

[EastHallApp]

Here is what I know. jmu went after a guy with a 44-21 record at his last job and they had a very good year considering the players they lost.
Indiana went 11-1 in a weak big 10 with a bunch of jmu players and a winning coach.
What I hear from our fans is guys like Satterfield who is 25-25 and 8-16 at his last two jobs and Neal Brown who is 37-35 over the last 6 years and an nfl asst coach with no college experience. We need to go after a winner not a maybe.
If our fans have any say at all in hiring we are screwed. ( yes I know they don't... well maybe a couple)

Any coach we hire is going to be a maybe.

Well I think your odds improve if he is a winner at his last job instead of "maybe" he can figure out how to win.

If we can hire a coach who has won big at the FBS level and never failed or struggled, I'm all for it.

[ASU843]

Man that is a underwhelming list.

What are your expectations? Saban? Harbaugh?

[311neers]

It seems as if our job opening is less attractive than it was 5-6 years ago. For plenty of reasons: NIL, lack of money for TP, high expectations, a not so good football team…etc.


Did we have guys chomping at the bit to take the gig 6 years ago when we went with Drink? Or 5 years ago when we went with Clark?