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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:40 am

I have zero problem with a guy like Joey making a move. Count JC years or not he’s spent 4 in some sort of college environment. Go for it is what I say.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:14 am

Good luck Joey!! Hope you have a great year with the Bruins. Beautiful campus that is for sure.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Yosefus » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:27 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:25 pm
ah59396 wrote:
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Have a feeling he’s gonna ball out there. Good luck to him.
Yeah be thinks the defenses might be a bit tougher. His off the back foot slinging will result in even more turnovers
He was prone to mistakes yes but has solid talent that has been recognized and taken in by a P4 school. Just a prime example of all the squandered talent in Boone over the last few seasons.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:02 am

Four players leave for P4 this year in addition to McCleod and Nate Noel past two years. If KRob didn’t get injured, he’d probably have an opportunity at a P5.

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Unread post by appdaze » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:07 am

Going to UCLA is a solid life choice. Great place to make career connections. If you're not going to play on Sundays then make sure your Saturdays secure a good life.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Yosef10 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:11 am

bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:49 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:52 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
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“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.
You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.
P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.
If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.
So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?
I feel fine. Our competition is not the P4 schools with multi million dollar NIL budgets and the like. G5 schools are relatively on the same playing field, and App is in a better spot than most. Think a lot of you guys lose sight of that.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:22 am

Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:11 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:49 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:52 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:31 pm


You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.
P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.
If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.
So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?
I feel fine. Our competition is not the P4 schools with multi million dollar NIL budgets and the like. G5 schools are relatively on the same playing field, and App is in a better spot than most. Think a lot of you guys lose sight of that.
Let's revisit this in 2-3 years.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am

appdaze wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:07 am
Going to UCLA is a solid life choice. Great place to make career connections. If you're not going to play on Sundays then make sure your Saturdays secure a good life.
Honest question, you really think Joey is going to spend 2 semesters at UCLA and make good career connections? I think these guys who aren’t going to play on Sunday would do better to spend 4 or 5 years at one place developing relationships and making connections.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:08 am

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am
appdaze wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:07 am
Going to UCLA is a solid life choice. Great place to make career connections. If you're not going to play on Sundays then make sure your Saturdays secure a good life.
Honest question, you really think Joey is going to spend 2 semesters at UCLA and make good career connections? I think these guys who aren’t going to play on Sunday would do better to spend 4 or 5 years at one place developing relationships and making connections.
Actually, in Joey's case. Probably so..I lived in LAX for 3 years. Connections made in first year that I still have today. For Joey, assuming he wants to reside on West Coast after college playing career... building West Coast connections are important. No better way to do than as a student..with that said, it is up to Joey to seek those connections.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Yosef10 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:16 am

bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:22 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:11 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:49 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:52 am

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.
If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.
So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?
I feel fine. Our competition is not the P4 schools with multi million dollar NIL budgets and the like. G5 schools are relatively on the same playing field, and App is in a better spot than most. Think a lot of you guys lose sight of that.
Let's revisit this in 2-3 years.
I don’t really need to. App is at worst a top 5 resourced program in the SBC. That’s our competition. That’s more than enough to compete. Gotta stop with this woe is us stuff, App is just fine.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MrCraig » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:44 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am
appdaze wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:07 am
Going to UCLA is a solid life choice. Great place to make career connections. If you're not going to play on Sundays then make sure your Saturdays secure a good life.
Honest question, you really think Joey is going to spend 2 semesters at UCLA and make good career connections? I think these guys who aren’t going to play on Sunday would do better to spend 4 or 5 years at one place developing relationships and making connections.
Considering he’s from California, absolutely. I wouldn’t be surprised if he already knows ppl at UCLA. Plus, a graduate degree from UCLA looks pretty impressive on a resume.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:52 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:16 am
bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:22 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:11 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:49 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am


If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.
So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?
I feel fine. Our competition is not the P4 schools with multi million dollar NIL budgets and the like. G5 schools are relatively on the same playing field, and App is in a better spot than most. Think a lot of you guys lose sight of that.
Let's revisit this in 2-3 years.
I don’t really need to. App is at worst a top 5 resourced program in the SBC. That’s our competition. That’s more than enough to compete. Gotta stop with this woe is us stuff, App is just fine.
I am not talking about APP I am talking about G5 and it not being big business. P4 is big business and we, G5 are small business. That is my point. G5 schools don't bring in billions of dollars.

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Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:56 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:16 am
bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:22 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:11 am
bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:49 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am


If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.
So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?
I feel fine. Our competition is not the P4 schools with multi million dollar NIL budgets and the like. G5 schools are relatively on the same playing field, and App is in a better spot than most. Think a lot of you guys lose sight of that.
Let's revisit this in 2-3 years.
I don’t really need to. App is at worst a top 5 resourced program in the SBC. That’s our competition. That’s more than enough to compete. Gotta stop with this woe is us stuff, App is just fine.
I really wish I could feel the same way as you do. All programs are in uncharted waters and who knows what the future holds?

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm

I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer.

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Unread post by goapps93 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:06 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm
I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer.
That’s a pretty good idea. Returns some value to the athletic grant-in-aid. An idea like that would have to pass legal muster. Seems restrictions like that are difficult these days.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:07 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm
I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer. Maybe that's what you meant I didn't comprehend.
Or do it this way, the transfer recipient school pays the buyout fee in full (non-refundable) or the player has to sit a year.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:02 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm
I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer. Maybe that's what you meant I didn't comprehend.
Or do it this way, the transfer recipient school pays the buyout fee in full (non-refundable) or the player has to sit a year.
That’s basically what I said, but saying they “have to sit a year” will have legal issues. But saying the buyout expires after 1 year is not saying they have to sit a year, the choice is on the player and receiving school.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:06 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm
I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer.
The school that took a chance on the player has to get something. This sounds pretty good.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:30 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:06 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:02 pm
I think all college players on scholarship should have a buyout clause. School transferring to has to pay exit school $100k for each immediate transfer. The buyout expires 1 year after leaving exit school, essentially they’d have to sit a year. It’d slow
down the transfers and exit schools would be compensated for the time and resources spent on transfer.
The school that took a chance on the player has to get something. This sounds pretty good.
That is completely reasonable. Pro teams who lose top players get compensatory picks. If we recruit a kid who is rated too low for P4 consideration then blossoms and is now P4 worthy we might not be able to replace him with the portal. We can’t trade players so a steep monetary cost seems right.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:33 pm

We don’t have much of a hand to play.

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