NIL and future of NCAACF

[Saint3333]

Compete for and win the conference on a regular basis, against peers that have the same advantages and limitations we do.

[appdaze]

Compete for and win the conference on a regular basis, against peers that have the same advantages and limitations we do.

I agree. This is the same drum I've been beating for a few years now with all the changes. Just win the conference. Nothing else matters more than that. Everything else is a distraction at this point.

[Mjohn1988]

I see one of two things happening. Either it’s rebuild every year with very little player development or something is done to limit the transfer portal. The current portal situation will be a wrecking ball to any and all top tier G5 teams.

[AppSt94]

I see one of two things happening. Either it’s rebuild every year with very little player development or something is done to limit the transfer portal. The current portal situation will be a wrecking ball to any and all top tier G5 teams.

There are some P4 teams in the same boat.

[bcoach]

That is the new reality. Talent evaluation is more important than ever.

That is built up over time. If you are sucessful those coaches will be gone. If you are not then they were not very good at evaluating. It is a new deal now. You have the money to buy players or you don't get to the top. College ball is now played at the DIV 2 and 3 level. We are in semi pro.

[rbarthle17]

Interesting points. Are the good G5’s even trying to recruit the higher rated players anymore? I’m sure they still try but you can almost ask what’s the point? Flip side is that if the higher rated G5’s became in essence the triple A and the top tier high school players came for 2 years then if good enough “moved up” would our fans be happy assuming it translated to 9-3 years?

The reality is the top G5s are now double-A. The Big 12, ACC, and restarting Pac-12 are triple-A. It's SEC and Big 10, then everyone else.

[Bootsy]

We should never underestimate the importance of chemistry in team sports. The lack of personnel continuity from season to season and shifting player attitudes related to financial gain will make it even more challenging to sustain team chemistry on/off the field over time. And there is a strong correlation between team chemistry and successful seasons.

[Mjohn1988]

We should never underestimate the importance of chemistry in team sports. The lack of personnel continuity from season to season and shifting player attitudes related to financial gain will make it even more challenging to sustain team chemistry on/off the field over time. And there is a strong correlation between team chemistry and successful seasons.

I have wondered if the coach who gets and keeps a bunch of B and B+ players will do better than the coach who simply rotates through a bunch of A players. It could be a strategy.

[AppSt94]

We should never underestimate the importance of chemistry in team sports. The lack of personnel continuity from season to season and shifting player attitudes related to financial gain will make it even more challenging to sustain team chemistry on/off the field over time. And there is a strong correlation between team chemistry and successful seasons.

I have wondered if the coach who gets and keeps a bunch of B and B+ players will do better than the coach who simply rotates through a bunch of A players. It’s could be a strategy.

I think that you can do that in a sport like basketball where you only need 8 or 9 players. Football needs 40 something of those dudes which is a tall ask.

[Stonewall]

It’s revenue sharing , schools paying players now . NIL , with the exception of some national market super stars and a few big regional big markets, isn’t where the money comes from to pay these ummm student athletes.

[Mjohn1988]

It’s revenue sharing , schools paying players now . NIL , with the exception of some national market super stars and a few big regional big markets, isn’t where the money comes from to pay these ummm student athletes.

I really don’t think NIL will be the thing that kills G5 football. Yes G5 programs will lose their best players to P4 schools. But that will happen across the board and thus will not create a competitive advantage for any one G5 team. In my opinion what will hurt G5 teams is not being able to create an actual “team”. And this is due to the portal and absolutely no restrictions on transfers. Guys on 3 teams in less than a year, can anybody think that’s good for the players or the sport as a whole. If the powers that be could put some guardrails on the transfer situation I think we could be OK.

[JTApps1]

That is the new reality. Talent evaluation is more important than ever.

Talent evaluation was the downfall of Clark's staff. Too many guys never panned out.

[Bootsy]

That is the new reality. Talent evaluation is more important than ever.

Talent evaluation was the downfall of Clark's staff. Too many guys never panned out.

And that’s the other edge of the sword, isn’t it? Coaches used to give young players, under performers, etc. more leash to train up and develop from one season to the next.

Nowadays, why bother hoping current players in these situations will achieve skill development goals, successfully rehab an injury, etc. when you can let them go and hit the TP? Not to mention that the stigma of quickly cutting these kids loose is all but gone since coaches have to win in a hurry. Maybe the TP is viewed as an avenue to mitigate risk for the staff?

[spacemonkey]

More and more i like the idea of a head offensive coach and a head defensive coach. Fire the one that doesnt get it done and save money on the head coach. Player evaluation from a defensive staff and an offensive staff. No need to put all that on one person. We need to think outside the box and save money to buy players. For the record...i hate what this has evolved to. No school loyalty from players just makes it like pro sports and i am no fan of pro sports .

[BambooRdApp]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

[Bigdaddyg1]

I like the ideas of contracts, buyouts, reimbursement to schools who lose players in the portal but who is actually in charge to make that stuff happen? In the pro leagues all of that business is collectively bargained and agreements are put in place. It seems that currently nobody is really in charge of college athletics. It might literally take an act of congress to right the ship (so to speak). The two big conferences who control the playoffs and basically the basketball tournament could not care less. They will probably not be in a hurry to install any regulation.

It’s really a shame what has happened. We used to get the “chip on the shoulder” guys who wanted to prove they got overlooked by the big programs. We showed that if you can find 6 or so hidden gems every year and develop them it generated solid teams with great results. Now we hope to get scrap heap guys who want to show their previous team that they should have played them.

[bcoach]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

[AppSt94]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

That is my issue with the contracts. What if the kid isn’t a good student, has poor work ethic in the gym or gets in trouble or violates team rules? Asking an 18-19 year old kid to abide by a contract isn’t the same as asking a professional.

[Saint3333]

These kids are now professionals, at least from a business perspective. That’s the downside of what they’ve asked for. The contracts will need to have academic requirements and “behavior detrimental to organization” clauses.

[appdaze]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

That is my issue with the contracts. What if the kid isn’t a good student, has poor work ethic in the gym or gets in trouble or violates team rules? Asking an 18-19 year old kid to abide by a contract isn’t the same as asking a professional.

Then why do we have 18 year olds sign contracts to go off to war? Once again these are adults making adult decisions. They may be young adults but they are still adults. If they are kids then they shouldn't be allowed to buy cigarettes, join the military, or vote.

Contracts will eventually happen. At thay point they are professionals and only students by choice. We've talked about for years how teams will break away from the school itself and the schools will be the licensed logo and name people instead of the team owners. Its heading that way it's just a matter of time.