Game thread

[Gonzo]

I can't even come here after losses anymore...

[PhillyApp1]

I can't even come here after losses anymore...

Its not the loses, its the same reason for the loses in the last 3 years.
When we lose,the same things happen

1- stupid penalties
2- No oline
3- missed assignments
4- blocked everything
5- out coached sometimes
6- out physical

and add these to this year
7- no go-to wideouts with experience
8- sketchy kicking game
9- oh, did i say we haven't had an offense that can score in the red zone
10- a few dropped passes

Now, on the defense who has to play series after series to start every game.
They are getting hardened like a sword. I can see improvemnet and players that are growing.


I am looking for a sign of hope......GO APP, i'll be there Oct 4th

[Robert Norton]

Really good game to watch tonight, especially the 9th and Jeter's walk off single.

[APPARJ]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

[App91]

But hey our VB team is undefeated!

[AppState89]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

I would say: Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Montez McGuire....I would leave Bobo off that list or add him to #4... McGuire is really the only big receiver we have, if you call him big...

[MAD Doctor]

I will always support the black and gold, and I really want to be positive, but I just want to see improvement. If we don't pick it up, two years from now, we'll just be an older bad team. Some folks say there are positives; I hope they are right, but I haven't seen it.

Offense: Good RBs but yardage all goes for naught if you can't score in the red zone. Keeps the defense on the field until they are exhausted.

Defense: At times appear to be on roller-skates. Lots of missed tackles and has trouble making stops when needed.

Special Teams: I have no words.

Coaching: Boring, conservative, little passion. Team comes out flat and spends the rest of the game playing catch up.

Come on home guys and let's turn this thing around.

[diehardapp18]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

This won't be a problem. Barbour, Meadors, Lewis, Armstrong, Cathey, Hopkins, etc are waiting in the wings. I'm not worried about the future of our receivers, nor am I worried about the kid that's gonna be slinging them the ball. I want to see an improved o-line and secondary, that's where we need to really recruit this year.

I haven't been on this forum a week and wow, do you guys overreact. We knew this was going to be a young team and they're playing like it, but some of you act like there is no hope. Just look at the skill positions on offense and if you don't get excited for the future of this team... well, I don't even know.

Satterfield has been slightly disappointing so far, the team is making too many small errors that have to fall on him to an extent at some point. But this dude can RECRUIT, we are going to be very good soon.

You guys just seem too spoiled, every team goes through a down period at some point. We will be back again soon, I even say we have a very good chance at making a bowl game next year.

[PhillyApp1]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

This won't be a problem. Barbour, Meadors, Lewis, Armstrong, Cathey, Hopkins, etc are waiting in the wings. I'm not worried about the future of our receivers, nor am I worried about the kid that's gonna be slinging them the ball. I want to see an improved o-line and secondary, that's where we need to really recruit this year.

I haven't been on this forum a week and wow, do you guys overreact. We knew this was going to be a young team and they're playing like it, but some of you act like there is no hope. Just look at the skill positions on offense and if you don't get excited for the future of this team... well, I don't even know.

Satterfield has been slightly disappointing so far, the team is making too many small errors that have to fall on him to an extent at some point. But this dude can RECRUIT, we are going to be very good soon.

You guys just seem too spoiled, every team goes through a down period at some point. We will be back again soon, I even say we have a very good chance at making a bowl game next year.

Diehard, where do you see improvement?
What part of the offensive play calling in the first half is acceptable?

Scott owes the defense an apology for stranding them in almost every first half this year.

We need to take the gloves off and open the playbook from the first play in the game. We need to decide we are going to run our offense without reading the defense.

I have been hearing about recruits for 7 years. I know..... but its so hard to watch. I see so little improvement in the last 3 years....its just getting old not seeing hope from the list i posted earlier

[APPARJ]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

This won't be a problem. Barbour, Meadors, Lewis, Armstrong, Cathey, Hopkins, etc are waiting in the wings. I'm not worried about the future of our receivers, nor am I worried about the kid that's gonna be slinging them the ball. I want to see an improved o-line and secondary, that's where we need to really recruit this year.

I haven't been on this forum a week and wow, do you guys overreact. We knew this was going to be a young team and they're playing like it, but some of you act like there is no hope. Just look at the skill positions on offense and if you don't get excited for the future of this team... well, I don't even know.

Satterfield has been slightly disappointing so far, the team is making too many small errors that have to fall on him to an extent at some point. But this dude can RECRUIT, we are going to be very good soon.

You guys just seem too spoiled, every team goes through a down period at some point. We will be back again soon, I even say we have a very good chance at making a bowl game next year.

I hope you're not singling me out as someone overreacting. If so, you obviously haven't read anything I've posted... not that it would be hard to miss, this is a large forum.

My comment has to do with out inability to score, not the future of our program. Some of the people who sharply (and occasionally accurately) criticize Satt for our lack of scoring are the same people who conveniently ignore the fact that this subpar WR corps were recruited before Satt.

There is NO EXCUSE for App State to have such a weak Jr/Sr group of receivers.

I'm sure it was a general comment you made - but I don't overreact. I'm a realist. We're in a tough position right now offensively because we lack the necessary ability to do what we want.

With the other WRs in the wings, I'm not as concerned. But tonight we played a tough GaSo team and should've put more on the board.

[APPARJ]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

This won't be a problem. Barbour, Meadors, Lewis, Armstrong, Cathey, Hopkins, etc are waiting in the wings. I'm not worried about the future of our receivers, nor am I worried about the kid that's gonna be slinging them the ball. I want to see an improved o-line and secondary, that's where we need to really recruit this year.

I haven't been on this forum a week and wow, do you guys overreact. We knew this was going to be a young team and they're playing like it, but some of you act like there is no hope. Just look at the skill positions on offense and if you don't get excited for the future of this team... well, I don't even know.

Satterfield has been slightly disappointing so far, the team is making too many small errors that have to fall on him to an extent at some point. But this dude can RECRUIT, we are going to be very good soon.

You guys just seem too spoiled, every team goes through a down period at some point. We will be back again soon, I even say we have a very good chance at making a bowl game next year.

Diehard, where do you see improvement?
What part of the offensive play calling in the first half is acceptable?

Scott owes the defense an apology for stranding them in almost every first half this year.

We need to take the gloves off and open the playbook from the first play in the game. We need to decide we are going to run our offense without reading the defense.

I have been hearing about recruits for 7 years. I know..... but its so hard to watch. I see so little improvement in the last 3 years....its just getting old not seeing hope from the list i posted earlier

I totally understand where you're coming from, Philly... but when has App State ever had such a weak showing of Jr/Sr skill positions on offense?

I am not saying the coaches are blameless (they're not) but when the field shrinks and the defense knows we have skills at RB and ZERO experienced skill at WR, what are we to do? Bobo, Malachi and Simms in the red zone is what I would LOVE to have if I was the DC of an opposing team.

Also, frankly, Tacoi is awful. He caught two passes tonight where he literally ran back 3 yards and cost us a first down.

[PhillyApp1]

More tight end passes
More motion, moving the pocket
More looking off passes

We have to do better to start the game
Maybe there is no answer and I need to stop thinking we are as good as the coaches tell us we are

[AppState2014]

We do have a lot of problems but there are some bright spots. We are going to improve in some ways. The thing I find most funny is the people who got on here bragging we would win 8 games or saying it's crazy for us not to expect to win more than 3 or 4. I'm a little nervous we won't win more than 4, but in my defense I felt that way coming into the season. Michigan isn't that great and Campbell is awful. USM is not a good team at all. That loss was a bad one. I'm not surprised by Georgia Southern. I expected a double digit loss.

Coaching and the talent has to improve. OL is still an issue and we need some players with these high rankings in HS to live up to their hype.

Good news is that we should win next week against Liberty but I only see 2-3 possible wins after that.

I'm fully prepared to only win 3 or 4 games this year. With that said, I know Scott is coming back because our new AD will come in late but the entire staff is on the hot seat in 2015. If we have a winning season then they will stay, if we lose they will be gone. I'm hoping we turn it around but I'm mentally prepared to win 3-4 this year and no more than 5 in 2015.

[AppState2014]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

This won't be a problem. Barbour, Meadors, Lewis, Armstrong, Cathey, Hopkins, etc are waiting in the wings. I'm not worried about the future of our receivers, nor am I worried about the kid that's gonna be slinging them the ball. I want to see an improved o-line and secondary, that's where we need to really recruit this year.

I haven't been on this forum a week and wow, do you guys overreact. We knew this was going to be a young team and they're playing like it, but some of you act like there is no hope. Just look at the skill positions on offense and if you don't get excited for the future of this team... well, I don't even know.

Satterfield has been slightly disappointing so far, the team is making too many small errors that have to fall on him to an extent at some point. But this dude can RECRUIT, we are going to be very good soon.

You guys just seem too spoiled, every team goes through a down period at some point. We will be back again soon, I even say we have a very good chance at making a bowl game next year.

We have a few holes, some are the fault of Jerry and it's still too early to say Scott can be blamed for them. I agree on his recruiting. I think this team could be bowl bound in 2015 and there is no excuse not to be. Scott has to go to a bowl game next year for sure. The talent will be there. There will be no excuses. We all need to just pull for these guys and support them while being mentally prepared to win 4 or less, just in case.

All of us who know how FBS is were/are prepared to struggle a few years. We certainly won't win 3 Sun Belt titles in a row any time soon. It's going to take some time.

[MAD Doctor]

Where we are as of 9/26/14:

Throw out Michigan and Campbell.

We lost to a So. Miss team because we couldn't kick a field goal or extra point; and knowing this, our coach still went for the tie instead of the win with 6 seconds left.

Georgia Southern, who we beat last year, was an 18.5 point favorite, and covered.

Not to single any one player out, but If you want to see a reason why we lost so badly last night, just watch the tape of Bobo Beathard on their first kickoff to us, and then the first pass out in the flats; two of the worst, most feeble attempts at a block I've ever seen. They each should make ESPN's Bottom Ten.

[BUTCH1991]

Open up the playbook all you want, it wouldn't have mattered. GaSo was on a serious adrenaline rush to start the game and both of our lines were overwhelmed. It didn't matter what the play call was, it wasn't going to be successful. Again, we were right there early in the 3rd quarter and should have tied or taken the lead. Our kicker was hurt, so we went for it on 4th down, otherwise we hopefully make the FG to get within three. Then Lamb throws the interception on the goal line plus another one deep in GaSo territory. That killed all the momentum. I'm not saying we are a good team, but it's not nearly as bad as you guys are acting.

[appstate24]

My take on things so far this year, for what it is worth.

First, the most aggravating thing to me is the penalties. Everytime we get in the redzone, it's automatic that we are going to get a false start penalty. You have to laugh to keep from crying it happens so often. The sad part is that these are coming from our "seasoned" guys. To me this is the main reason we can't score in the redzone. I could be exaggerating but it seems like everytime we touch the redzone, you can expect a penalty on 1st or 2nd down.
Second, I have been impressed with our defense for the most part (last night, not so much). That being said, we miss WAY to many tackles, and just whiff on tackles at times. This has to improve.
Third, our O-line is still soft. Way too inconsistent. At times last night our run and pass blocking was atrocious.

I agree that the majority of our problems are able to be fixed, but we are getting too far into the season for these dumb penalties. I do still see quite a few games we can win, if we get it together. Until some of these things are fixed though...Not so much. That being said, I'll be there next week, GO APPS!

[WataugaMan]

As in seasons past, too much arm tackling.

[AppSt94]

Our top three WRs are Simms McElfresh, Malachi Jones and Bobo Bethard. I mean... wow.

Does anyone want to argue that we have an above average receiving corps?

You may want to add Maguire to that list.

[AppSt94]

Where we are as of 9/26/14:

Throw out Michigan and Campbell.

We lost to a So. Miss team because we couldn't kick a field goal or extra point; and knowing this, our coach still went for the tie instead of the win with 6 seconds left.

Georgia Southern, who we beat last year, was an 18.5 point favorite, and covered.

Not to single any one player out, but If you want to see a reason why we lost so badly last night, just watch the tape of Bobo Beathard on their first kickoff to us, and then the first pass out in the flats; two of the worst, most feeble attempts at a block I've ever seen. They each should make ESPN's Bottom Ten.

I will challenge you a bit on the final play against Sp. Miss. Matics missed three FG (one of those blocked) but he had made two XPs. You make the XP which is statistically more probable than the two point conversion and we go to overtime. Our defense had shutdown SM's offense so it was highly likely that we hold them to a FG. Our offense was clicking and we could put it in the endzone and win the game.