Triple option

[WVAPPeer]

I still hate the triple option - sick of seeing it

I agree; it's pretty boring to watch. I would hate to ever see the option at Appalachian as the OP suggested. But, it is effective at this level of football.

We ran it in the 1970's. I can assure you that when you win with it, boredom is not an issue.
QB Robbie Price was a lot of fun to watch during those years.
I like our current offense, but I'm not sure we have the right QB for the offense. And I don't think that Satterfield thinks so, either.

But GSU got rid of Sewak and canned it for some reason - they were still winning ---

[gaapp78]

Here's my idea against the Triple option. Go back to the old 5-3 defense. Let the corners and the 1 safety play man against the 3 receivers. That is usually all a TO offense has. Tell the DE their responsibility is to go down the line and hit the qb and force him to pitch the ball. The outside line backer and corners then get the pitchman. How hard is that? I bet you could teach a middle school team to that. If you hit the qb enough times he will start pitching the ball earlier and earlier or giving to the fullback.

There was actually a play when the App had that type of formation actually no safety because they manned up and they had a 3 receiver set, maybe it was a blitz and the play was like a 3 yard loss. Would be ideal if App tried something different with Ga Southern coming up in a couple of weeks.

[JCline0429]

Not every team can run the Triple-Option. You have to recruit for that style.

The Wish Bone Y we ran in the 70's was good enough to beat U South Carolina, Wake and ECU in the same season and the offense ranked high in Division I. No I-AA, etc during those years.
It wasn't 3 yards and a cloud of dust either. We lived off the big plays and there were tons of them.

[rbarthle17]

I like our current offense, but I'm not sure we have the right QB for the offense. And I don't think that Satterfield thinks so, either.

The longer I watch teams run spread option attacks, the more it's evident that it's not effective without a true dual threat. Beyond Armanti, what we've had is QB's more adept at one half of the equation. Williams and Jackson are better passers than runners. Pressley was a far better runner than thrower. We've had exactly one QB that was truly good at both ends, and it's no secret the best years were with him at the helm.

I see this now in the NFL with RG3. It's not his running that makes the Redskins offense so great these days. It's that you can combine it with a 70% completion rate and the most yards per completion of any QB in the NFL.

This is the downside of the spread. Unless you have a true gamechanger at QB, it's an offense that will only max out at good, not great. Gamechangers don't come very often.

[hapapp]

I totally agree. It is not the system but the personnel in the system that matters. As long as we use AE as the standard, we will most likely always unfairly judge our QBs. When folks complain about how we don't run the same offense we once did, it is in large measure because we don't have the same person directing the act on the field. The dive worked much better for us when we had a true option QB. We don't really have that in JJ.

[Appsolutely]

I totally agree. It is not the system but the personnel in the system that matters. As long as we use AE as the standard, we will most likely always unfairly judge our QBs. When folks complain about how we don't run the same offense we once did, it is in large measure because we don't have the same person directing the act on the field. The dive worked much better for us when we had a true option QB. We don't really have that in JJ.

What concerns me about JJ is not his running ability or passing ability per se, but his decision-making ability. Yes, Armanti could run and throw, but what always impressed me about him was his ability to improvise once he was out of the pocket or his receivers weren't open initially.

[SpeedkingATL]

I still hate the triple option - sick of seeing it

I agree; it's pretty boring to watch. I would hate to ever see the option at Appalachian as the OP suggested. But, it is effective at this level of football.

We ran it in the 1970's. I can assure you that when you win with it, boredom is not an issue.
QB Robbie Price was a lot of fun to watch during those years.
I like our current offense, but I'm not sure we have the right QB for the offense. And I don't think that Satterfield thinks so, either.

Price could really throw and he had a great deep threat in Devon Ford, who was an all conference wide out. I don't remember the specifics but Price probably threw the ball at least 20 times a game unlike the current SoCon option teams. Scatman, elaborate if you see this post because I know you will know the specifics of the mid-70's Price led teams.

[JCline0429]

I still hate the triple option - sick of seeing it

I agree; it's pretty boring to watch. I would hate to ever see the option at Appalachian as the OP suggested. But, it is effective at this level of football.

We ran it in the 1970's. I can assure you that when you win with it, boredom is not an issue.
QB Robbie Price was a lot of fun to watch during those years.
I like our current offense, but I'm not sure we have the right QB for the offense. And I don't think that Satterfield thinks so, either.

Price could really throw and he had a great deep threat in Devon Ford, who was an all conference wide out. I don't remember the specifics but Price probably threw the ball at least 20 times a game unlike the current SoCon option teams. Scatman, elaborate if you see this post because I know you will know the specifics of the mid-70's Price led teams.

We also had half backs Calvin Simon and Emmitt Hamilton who often picked up 100 yards apiece with Full Back John Craig who had more than one 200 yard game....225 vs USC ( He had transferred from USC to boot)

[hapapp]

I totally agree. It is not the system but the personnel in the system that matters. As long as we use AE as the standard, we will most likely always unfairly judge our QBs. When folks complain about how we don't run the same offense we once did, it is in large measure because we don't have the same person directing the act on the field. The dive worked much better for us when we had a true option QB. We don't really have that in JJ.

What concerns me about JJ is not his running ability or passing ability per se, but his decision-making ability. Yes, Armanti could run and throw, but what always impressed me about him was his ability to improvise once he was out of the pocket or his receivers weren't open initially.

No doubt that is a big difference between the two as well. It will be very difficult to replicate the success we had under Armanti because of not only his physical skills but his ability to make the right decision.