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Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:24 pm
by kornegaylw
Any player that has that has the resume this Billy Wiles has is gonna have that dawg in him.
I bet he pushes Joey and is hungry to start next year
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:54 pm
by JTApps1
We went from having a #2 QB with zero game experience to one that started an entire season in our conference. Huge upgrade IMO.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:48 pm
by firemoose
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:23 am
by BambooRdApp
JTApps1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:54 pm
We went from having a #2 QB with zero game experience to one that started an entire season in our conference. Huge upgrade IMO.
And, if two years left..in running maybe for qb1 next year
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:52 am
by Stonewall
I would think that’s part of the draw. And realistic.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
by spacemonkey
Looking at Billy's resume...he may have a redshirt left.
Anyone know????
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:51 am
by Appmountaineers19
spacemonkey wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
Looking at Billy's resume...he may have a redshirt left.
Anyone know????
I was told he used his RS so 2 years left.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:54 am
by KentHogan
Still need a D Tackle!
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:50 pm
by 311neers
KentHogan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:54 am
Still need a D Tackle!
We’ve been trying! Might take a while.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
by AppSt94
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:29 pm
by Bootsy
This is a good move for App. Speaking for myself, having Wiles as QB2 this season will prevent me from going into A-fib every time Joey takes a big hit or tucks the ball and runs.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:29 pm
by Bootsy
This is a good move for App. Speaking for myself, having Wiles as QB2 this season will prevent me from going into A-fib every time Joey takes a big hit or tucks the ball and runs.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
by PhillyApp1
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
by PhillyApp1
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:14 pm
by AppStFan1
PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
There are some good ones in FCS and D2. I just wonder if they entered the portal or not. Lenoir-Rhyne has a player who could play DT for us and has size.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:46 pm
by AppSt94
PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
For me, I define quality as someone that can step in and provide depth or maybe start. A guy coming from a P5 school isn’t necessarily of quality anymore than a guy coming from the lower division a reach. If you can play, you can play.
Take NT for example, being 6’2” 340 isn’t a guarantee to solve our depth issue if he can’t get off the ball and plug a gap. Perception drives opinion. We have a walk on that impressed in camp at NT. Most folks on here would scoff at him because he’s a walk on. But bringing in someone from a P5 or a kid that was on scholarship somewhere else but didn’t play isn’t the automatic answer.
Bottom line, everyone has their own ideas on what we need and what size that need should come in. It’s the old adage, it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:04 pm
by 311neers
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:46 pm
PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
For me, I define quality as someone that can step in and provide depth or maybe start. A guy coming from a P5 school isn’t necessarily of quality anymore than a guy coming from the lower division a reach. If you can play, you can play.
Take NT for example, being 6’2” 340 isn’t a guarantee to solve our depth issue if he can’t get off the ball and plug a gap. Perception drives opinion. We have a walk on that impressed in camp at NT. Most folks on here would scoff at him because he’s a walk on. But bringing in someone from a P5 or a kid that was on scholarship somewhere else but didn’t play isn’t the automatic answer.
Bottom line, everyone has their own ideas on what we need and what size that need should come in. It’s the old adage, it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
Is that Danny Stevens? Multiple HS coaches I’ve talked to tell me he can play at App. Extremely athletic.
Maybe Hertz though.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 pm
by firemoose
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:19 pm
by Mjohn1988
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:46 pm
PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
For me, I define quality as someone that can step in and provide depth or maybe start. A guy coming from a P5 school isn’t necessarily of quality anymore than a guy coming from the lower division a reach. If you can play, you can play.
Take NT for example, being 6’2” 340 isn’t a guarantee to solve our depth issue if he can’t get off the ball and plug a gap. Perception drives opinion. We have a walk on that impressed in camp at NT. Most folks on here would scoff at him because he’s a walk on. But bringing in someone from a P5 or a kid that was on scholarship somewhere else but didn’t play isn’t the automatic answer.
Bottom line, everyone has their own ideas on what we need and what size that need should come in. It’s the old adage, it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
There are guys who can make it without the measurables. But the big time P5 schools and especially the NFL teams have size, strength and speed templates for a reason. We aren’t in a position to have it all so we will always need to make it happen with some guys who don’t fit the template.
Re: 2024 Roster Updates
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:44 pm
by AppSt94
Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:19 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:46 pm
PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:08 pm
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:02 pm
DL and OL are the most over inflated positions in the portal market. Why? Because everyone needs them and they know this and leverage it in negotiations. Getting one isn’t guaranteed quality as that carcass has been picked and cleaned.
Is the quality in FCS not good enough for us to pluck or are we waiting to try to get bigger fish?
or something else ?
For me, I define quality as someone that can step in and provide depth or maybe start. A guy coming from a P5 school isn’t necessarily of quality anymore than a guy coming from the lower division a reach. If you can play, you can play.
Take NT for example, being 6’2” 340 isn’t a guarantee to solve our depth issue if he can’t get off the ball and plug a gap. Perception drives opinion. We have a walk on that impressed in camp at NT. Most folks on here would scoff at him because he’s a walk on. But bringing in someone from a P5 or a kid that was on scholarship somewhere else but didn’t play isn’t the automatic answer.
Bottom line, everyone has their own ideas on what we need and what size that need should come in. It’s the old adage, it’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.
There are guys who can make it without the measurables. But the big time P5 schools and especially the NFL teams have size, strength and speed templates for a reason. We aren’t in a position to have it all so we will always need to make it happen with some guys who don’t fit the template.
For certain. But if you look at the NFL template, the best DL (Aaron Donald) and the best OL (Kelce) didn’t measure up to that template. To your point, if you can ball they will find you. Guys at the P5 level get more of a benefit of the doubt.