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[ASUFan4863]

Don't you think if we bring him back and don't extend him then SBC coaches will use his lack of firm future against us in recruiting? It could make the 2026 recruiting class very difficult.

We haven’t recruited, developed or retained well over the past 4-5 years so not much will change if he comes back. Need to find someone that can recruit AND develop. Not reaping the rewards of either at the moment.

welcome to college sports in the 2020's -- regardless of whom you hire, App State will always have a retainment problem - check out Kerns roster - kept 2 players from last year.

P5's will always poach the App State roster in many many sports.

But that’s part of the problem. We’ve only had like 2-3 players “poached” by a P5 in 4 years. But this tells me that we don’t have the talent or players. Most of our outgoing transfers are going to lesser programs, FCS schools or just quitting football in general. If we were recruting at a good clip and developing, we would have players jumping to P5.

Just like coaching- it’s not good when no one wants your coach. It’s not good when no one wants your players.

Okay smarty pants -- the back up QB went to Liberty, Noel went to Mizzou, the DL kid took over for Auburn mid summer,
they paid Joey to stay, the whole defense graduated. it's the ebbs and flows but most likely All SBC caliber players will have options.

Alabama wanted the Head Coach to come make over 1 million to be the OL coach. --

Alabama wanted Shawn Clark to be the OL coach? Am I reading that correctly? That would be a stark difference from two other P4 coaches who purposely passed on hiring Clark.

[311neers]

Don't you think if we bring him back and don't extend him then SBC coaches will use his lack of firm future against us in recruiting? It could make the 2026 recruiting class very difficult.

We haven’t recruited, developed or retained well over the past 4-5 years so not much will change if he comes back. Need to find someone that can recruit AND develop. Not reaping the rewards of either at the moment.

welcome to college sports in the 2020's -- regardless of whom you hire, App State will always have a retainment problem - check out Kerns roster - kept 2 players from last year.

P5's will always poach the App State roster in many many sports.

But that’s part of the problem. We’ve only had like 2-3 players “poached” by a P5 in 4 years. But this tells me that we don’t have the talent or players. Most of our outgoing transfers are going to lesser programs, FCS schools or just quitting football in general. If we were recruting at a good clip and developing, we would have players jumping to P5.

Just like coaching- it’s not good when no one wants your coach. It’s not good when no one wants your players.

Okay smarty pants -- the back up QB went to Liberty, Noel went to Mizzou, the DL kid took over for Auburn mid summer,
they paid Joey to stay, the whole defense graduated. it's the ebbs and flows but most likely All SBC caliber players will have options.

Alabama wanted the Head Coach to come make over 1 million to be the OL coach. --

Backup Qb is not good, or else he would be playing.
Yes- Noel, linebacker to Auburn and OL to Oklahoma. Outside of that, we haven't produced anything worth a P5 look.

Alabama wanted Shawn Clark?! Ain't no way in hell. If true, that seals the deal. Can't fix stupid.

[DenverOfTheEast]

We haven’t recruited, developed or retained well over the past 4-5 years so not much will change if he comes back. Need to find someone that can recruit AND develop. Not reaping the rewards of either at the moment.

welcome to college sports in the 2020's -- regardless of whom you hire, App State will always have a retainment problem - check out Kerns roster - kept 2 players from last year.

P5's will always poach the App State roster in many many sports.

But that’s part of the problem. We’ve only had like 2-3 players “poached” by a P5 in 4 years. But this tells me that we don’t have the talent or players. Most of our outgoing transfers are going to lesser programs, FCS schools or just quitting football in general. If we were recruting at a good clip and developing, we would have players jumping to P5.

Just like coaching- it’s not good when no one wants your coach. It’s not good when no one wants your players.

Okay smarty pants -- the back up QB went to Liberty, Noel went to Mizzou, the DL kid took over for Auburn mid summer,
they paid Joey to stay, the whole defense graduated. it's the ebbs and flows but most likely All SBC caliber players will have options.

Alabama wanted the Head Coach to come make over 1 million to be the OL coach. --

Backup Qb is not good, or else he would be playing.
Yes- Noel, linebacker to Auburn and OL to Oklahoma. Outside of that, we haven't produced anything worth a P5 look.

Alabama wanted Shawn Clark?! Ain't no way in hell. If true, that seals the deal. Can't fix stupid.

Yes -- He was the OL coach from 2016-19 when App ran all over everyone -- his OL punished A&M

Damn ya'll act like the guy ain't good at anything, Clemson shows film to their own team of the App running game. Even chase Brice has stated that.

[DenverOfTheEast]

and Ryan Berger ws better than Joey before he got hurt, Berger probably sitting there saying "I bet they wish they had me now"

[boonetown1]

and Ryan Berger ws better than Joey before he got hurt, Berger probably sitting there saying "I bet they wish they had me now"

Sitting on the bench that is

[Saint3333]

Burger looked frightened vs. Gardner Webb and Joey's burger is also better at the Cardinal.

[ASUFan4863]

If Clark turned down the Alabama OL job then that means 1 of two thing:

1. He’s stupid
2. He was so confident in this years team he wanted to stay.

Either way, it isn’t a good look. Makes me question the decision making of the guy.

[AppStFan1]

If Clark turned down the Alabama OL job then that means 1 of two thing:

1. He’s stupid
2. He was so confident in this years team he wanted to stay.

Either way, it isn’t a good look. Makes me question the decision making of the guy.

No inside info here so I am on the fence whether I believe it or not but if he thought this team was going to struggle and had that offer he would have been smart to take it.

[Pikapp79]

welcome to college sports in the 2020's -- regardless of whom you hire, App State will always have a retainment problem - check out Kerns roster - kept 2 players from last year.

P5's will always poach the App State roster in many many sports.

But that’s part of the problem. We’ve only had like 2-3 players “poached” by a P5 in 4 years. But this tells me that we don’t have the talent or players. Most of our outgoing transfers are going to lesser programs, FCS schools or just quitting football in general. If we were recruting at a good clip and developing, we would have players jumping to P5.

Just like coaching- it’s not good when no one wants your coach. It’s not good when no one wants your players.

Okay smarty pants -- the back up QB went to Liberty, Noel went to Mizzou, the DL kid took over for Auburn mid summer,
they paid Joey to stay, the whole defense graduated. it's the ebbs and flows but most likely All SBC caliber players will have options.

Alabama wanted the Head Coach to come make over 1 million to be the OL coach. --

Backup Qb is not good, or else he would be playing.
Yes- Noel, linebacker to Auburn and OL to Oklahoma. Outside of that, we haven't produced anything worth a P5 look.

Alabama wanted Shawn Clark?! Ain't no way in hell. If true, that seals the deal. Can't fix stupid.

Yes -- He was the OL coach from 2016-19 when App ran all over everyone -- his OL punished A&M

Damn ya'll act like the guy ain't good at anything, Clemson shows film to their own team of the App running game. Even chase Brice has stated that.

Go back to what you do best.

[Apptiger]

Joe Sloan OC LSU

Played at ECU. Was Interim HC at La tech before moving.

Why wouldn't he be the ECU choice then....he's probably got his eye on a return to Greenville.

The Louisiana branch of the family doesn't care for his play calling or blocking schemes. LSU can't run the ball. When is the last time you heard that. Kind of like us right now. I'd like to see him get more HC experience before coming here.

[Saint3333]

Please don't run with a crazy rumor like Clark was asked to be the OL coach at Bama.

Common sense is dead.

[DenverOfTheEast]

If Clark turned down the Alabama OL job then that means 1 of two thing:

1. He’s stupid
2. He was so confident in this years team he wanted to stay.

Either way, it isn’t a good look. Makes me question the decision making of the guy.

No inside info here so I am on the fence whether I believe it or not but if he thought this team was going to struggle and had that offer he would have been smart to take it.

Didn't want to leave his staff out high and dry -- he cares for his people. and he believes in his team/program.

[AppStFan1]

If Clark turned down the Alabama OL job then that means 1 of two thing:

1. He’s stupid
2. He was so confident in this years team he wanted to stay.

Either way, it isn’t a good look. Makes me question the decision making of the guy.

No inside info here so I am on the fence whether I believe it or not but if he thought this team was going to struggle and had that offer he would have been smart to take it.

Didn't want to leave his staff out high and dry -- he cares for his people. and he believes in his team/program.

I admire his character and truly like him a lot as a human being but that is not a smart move, if true. We keep hearing that NIL is a big problem at App State to begin with so why stick around in this job if we are so far behind and can't compete with our current NIL from people? He could have made about the same or more money for 1/4 the responsibility and made life easier on him and his family. I appreciate he cares for people and loves App but that would have been a bad business decision for him.

[DenverOfTheEast]

If Clark turned down the Alabama OL job then that means 1 of two thing:

1. He’s stupid
2. He was so confident in this years team he wanted to stay.

Either way, it isn’t a good look. Makes me question the decision making of the guy.

No inside info here so I am on the fence whether I believe it or not but if he thought this team was going to struggle and had that offer he would have been smart to take it.

Didn't want to leave his staff out high and dry -- he cares for his people. and he believes in his team/program.

I admire his character and truly like him a lot as a human being but that is not a smart move, if true. We keep hearing that NIL is a big problem at App State to begin with so why stick around in this job if we are so far behind and can't compete with our current NIL from people? He could have made about the same or more money for 1/4 the responsibility and made life easier on him and his family. I appreciate he cares for people and loves App but that would have been a bad business decision for him.

When you fire him guess what??????
He will still be able to go be a P5 OL coach someplace, ex Head Coaches stay employed in the business more so than non head coaches.

He will be fine either way big guy. He stayed for the aforementioned above reasons.

It doesn't look like it will work out for him, but he had a helluva run under difficult times.

[ASUFan4863]

If he was going to be a P5 OL coach, Satterfield or Drink would have took him. They didn’t, so he stayed. Not the other way around.

[appstatealum]

I'd feel good about wagering some cash at Tre Lamb being the coach here soon.

[HurricaneYosef]

If he was going to be a P5 OL coach, Satterfield or Drink would have took him. They didn’t, so he stayed. Not the other way around.

Satt didn’t need Clark because he was able to lure Ledford back from NC State after NC State poached him in 2016.

Drink didn’t bring Clark because Clark was named HC at his alma matar, a dream position

Let’s not pretend Clark isn’t a capable P5 OL coach based on those 2 specific circumstances

[BallantyneApp]

I'd feel good about wagering some cash at Tre Lamb being the coach here soon.

does he know enough coaches to put together a G5 staff? Maybe with his familial connections but bobby never coached above FCS and Tre has never coached above FCS doesn't have a long track record like the JMU coach. I definitely think successful FCS coach is the way to go though.

[BambooRdApp]

Interesting, etsu is 4-3 and only one game against a P5 school, App. St

[boonetown1]

Interesting, etsu is 4-3 and only one game against a P5 school, App. St

Well, I guess they were 3-6 last year. So, trend is in the right direction. You could also say NDSU is a g5 school.