Jerry Moore will not return

[StorminASU]

Even while this "was he really fired?" discussion rages on the message board, 90% of the folks in Boone and 90% of the ASU fans in North Carolina have no idea that there is any controversy at all about what happened behind the scenes. All they have heard is a brief news blurb that "Jerry Moore Retired"; they think he was a great man and a great coach; and they hope ASU can get a new coach that can be 80% of what Jerry was.

I agree Mountain Man, while most of us on here are sitting her at our work computers the rest of appnation is not caring if Coach was fired or if he retired. I think it is time for a change, especially if we move to FBS, however I wish that it would have been broadcasted to the fan base a little differently. I personally would have loved to hear it from the mouth of Coach himself. That would have been smarter for CC, and he might not have caught so much crap. I feel it was a power trip from CC and disrespectful to the Coach and what he did for this great University.

What if he was going to leave it up to Coach to announce his retirement, but then Coach said he wanted another year, so CC couldn't take the chance of his publicly saying he was coming back (which he kind of did already in full knowledge of the agreement in place)? Maybe Charlie isn't the rat scum everyone is making him out to be, maybe he's just a leader in a difficult position trying to hold a great coach to an agreement the two had in place?

[StorminASU]

The impact on a program with having a coach who decides after each season that he may or may not want to coach another year can be devestating especially with recruits and assistant coaches. Jerry indicated that he has been taking it year by year and that may work for him but it leaves too much up in the air. I hate it had to end this way but Jerry put Charlie in the position of having to end his tenure. I mentioned this earlier but I am dissapointed that Jerry has not yet taken a high road with this. Should he choose to he can damage the program with negative comments and he can put it to rest with some carefully chosen words and show his love of the University, players and fans. He hurts us with any negativity. My question to Jerry would be " What would you do in the same situation"?
24 great years that were mutually beneficial. Few coaches have that luxury. Don't ruin those 24 years with a few poorly worded comments. By the way, anyone surprised taht Ken Peacock has not said anything?

I feel like Peacock may be waiting on what Jerry says to either back up Cobb, or show more love to JM. This whole thing hinges on JM's response which is why CC and KP were in such difficult positions.

[MountainMan]

By the way, anyone surprised that Ken Peacock has not said anything?

No. Fits his MO.

[TheMoody1]

By the way, anyone surprised that Ken Peacock has not said anything?

No. Fits his MO.

''During his 24 years of loyal service to Appalachian State University, Coach Moore's contribution to the institution is far greater than his success on the field,'' Chancellor Kenneth Peacock said. ''He touched the lives of many young people and made life better for them. He will be missed but never forgotten at Appalachian State.''

[Appsolutely]

The impact on a program with having a coach who decides after each season that he may or may not want to coach another year can be devestating especially with recruits and assistant coaches. Jerry indicated that he has been taking it year by year and that may work for him but it leaves too much up in the air. I hate it had to end this way but Jerry put Charlie in the position of having to end his tenure. I mentioned this earlier but I am dissapointed that Jerry has not yet taken a high road with this. Should he choose to he can damage the program with negative comments and he can put it to rest with some carefully chosen words and show his love of the University, players and fans. He hurts us with any negativity. My question to Jerry would be " What would you do in the same situation"?
24 great years that were mutually beneficial. Few coaches have that luxury. Don't ruin those 24 years with a few poorly worded comments. By the way, anyone surprised taht Ken Peacock has not said anything?

That's it. I guess we're getting ready to see if JM is really as self-effacing as most people think he is. If his loyalties are with the University and the football program, I hope any comments he makes reflect that. The University and the program are more important than any one man...regardless of what he has accomplished.

[zooski43]

Please, some of the comments I've read on here are down right shameful. Had it not been for Jerry Moore, does anyone honestly believe ASU would have 12 SoCon titles, 3 National Championships, have beaten Michigan, or have the attendance and the facilities that are there now??? The man gave 24 years of his life to this University. I think the very least that should have taken place is one more season. Even if they do announce they are going FBS, it won't be next year. And can you just imagine the atmosphere and attendance if everyone knew next year was his final season? I'm sorry, but this was another terrible decision by Charlie Cobb, and I truly hope the football program doesn't fail like mens basketball has since his last blunder.

[newtoasu]

Please, some of the comments I've read on here are down right shameful. Had it not been for Jerry Moore, does anyone honestly believe ASU would have 12 SoCon titles, 3 National Championships, have beaten Michigan, or have the attendance and the facilities that are there now??? The man gave 24 years of his life to this University. I think the very least that should have taken place is one more season. Even if they do announce they are going FBS, it won't be next year. And can you just imagine the atmosphere and attendance if everyone knew next year was his final season? I'm sorry, but this was another terrible decision by Charlie Cobb, and I truly hope the football program doesn't fail like mens basketball has since his last blunder.

I don't think that anyone, for the most part, is arguing against Coach Moore's past. However, by most accounts, Coach Moore was given "one more season" last year when the program had probably reached its lowest point in years (at least in discipline and off field problems). That one year is now over, time to live up to the agreement. Who's to say that if Cobb gave him another year that we wouldn't be having the same discussion next year and talking about how he deserves one more year because of his 25 dedicated years of service?

[GlassOnion]

Record number of first time posters the past two days.

After the previous 3-4 years, the meltdown on the field, recruiting, with the players off the field, with the coaching staff, including his son, its hard to imagine anyone truly believing that JM should coach as long as he'd like. Seems alot of people would place Jerry Moore above the program.

Jerry Moore was going to be legtimately fired for those problems last year. It was a very big compromise, and gesture of good faith to give JM the chance to go out on the upswing. The deal was made, and JM decided he didnt want to abide by it.

And now the program isnt completely in shambles. Largely in part by Charlie Cobb's leadership and stepping in to make sure McClain, and Chris Moore and the committee fiasco was fixed, which should have been handled by JM, but clearly wasnt.

And now, Charlie Cobb is being demonized, for literally putting the pieces together, for JM to make one last run.

Truly, no good deed goes unpunished.

[hapapp]

The impact on a program with having a coach who decides after each season that he may or may not want to coach another year can be devestating especially with recruits and assistant coaches. Jerry indicated that he has been taking it year by year and that may work for him but it leaves too much up in the air. I hate it had to end this way but Jerry put Charlie in the position of having to end his tenure. I mentioned this earlier but I am dissapointed that Jerry has not yet taken a high road with this. Should he choose to he can damage the program with negative comments and he can put it to rest with some carefully chosen words and show his love of the University, players and fans. He hurts us with any negativity. My question to Jerry would be " What would you do in the same situation"?
24 great years that were mutually beneficial. Few coaches have that luxury. Don't ruin those 24 years with a few poorly worded comments. By the way, anyone surprised taht Ken Peacock has not said anything?

That's it. I guess we're getting ready to see if JM is really as self-effacing as most people think he is. If his loyalties are with the University and the football program, I hope any comments he makes reflect that. The University and the program are more important than any one man...regardless of what he has accomplished.

I agree as well. I think it would do a great disservice to Jerry's legacy if he goes negative. By the same token, let's give him some space as this was, no doubt, a difficult decision made on his behalf. He obviously was devoted to his coaching and it likely is a very difficult thing for him to walk away from under the circumstances. That said, I think the time was right. Hopefully, in time he will come to recognize that.

[hapapp]

I promise myself not to post on this topic after this post!

Jerry Moore is the greatest coach in school history period! No Comparison.

It is/was time to go. There are many things wrong within and around our program that he evidently did not say grace over that got us to the point we were with team discipline and other issues.

I love the man. He is one of the most inspirational people I have ever met.

But it was time! ....and every day past Sunday it will get easier!

Let's move on and SUPPORT ASU Athletics and our GREAT University!

Go APPS!

That really sums it up. It is time to turn the page and start a new chapter. The previous 24 chapters of the book make it a best seller.

[biggie]

Confused how so many people thought it was time. It was time when he said so, the end.

[Gonzo]

Nothing is fishy.

Cobb acted appropriately. Everything was laid out perfectly until Moore changed his mind and wanted more time. I respect Coach Moore as much as anyone on this planet, but it is time for him to go and all this fallout about his retirement/firing is his own fault for not honoring the agreement that was over 8 months old.

You people KNOW that I'd be the first one to criticize Charlie Cobb.

[app87]

IF this was agreed to months ago, then I approve CC's decision. Coach Moore is as competitive as they come so I'm sure he did not want to end his career at ASU with such a heartbreaking loss so his request for another year is not so difficult to understand. If I'm in his shoes, I want to end it with a better run at the national championship.

[bcoach]

Please, some of the comments I've read on here are down right shameful. Had it not been for Jerry Moore, does anyone honestly believe ASU would have 12 SoCon titles, 3 National Championships, have beaten Michigan, or have the attendance and the facilities that are there now??? The man gave 24 years of his life to this University. I think the very least that should have taken place is one more season. Even if they do announce they are going FBS, it won't be next year. And can you just imagine the atmosphere and attendance if everyone knew next year was his final season? I'm sorry, but this was another terrible decision by Charlie Cobb, and I truly hope the football program doesn't fail like mens basketball has since his last blunder.

His last TWO blunders.
CC's resume was built by JM. All CC did was show up. If no one else did, CC owed him another year.

[TheMoody1]

Please, some of the comments I've read on here are down right shameful. Had it not been for Jerry Moore, does anyone honestly believe ASU would have 12 SoCon titles, 3 National Championships, have beaten Michigan, or have the attendance and the facilities that are there now??? The man gave 24 years of his life to this University. I think the very least that should have taken place is one more season. Even if they do announce they are going FBS, it won't be next year. And can you just imagine the atmosphere and attendance if everyone knew next year was his final season? I'm sorry, but this was another terrible decision by Charlie Cobb, and I truly hope the football program doesn't fail like mens basketball has since his last blunder.

His last TWO blunders.
CC's resume was built by JM. All CC did was show up. If no one else did, CC owed him another year.

The buck doesn't stop with CC. KP had to be on board.

[TheMoody1]

Mike Ayers reaction.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/201212 ... ?p=1&tc=pg

[hAPPy4APP]

Without the contributions, commitment, uncommon loayalty of Jerry Moore, Charlie Cobb wouldn't be in a position to worry about the program going FBS? Sure, he was instrumental in fund raising and the leg-work on the new stadium, but without JM we wouldn't have needed more seats, CC wouldn't have on his resume 3NC's, which, of course, was just a gift to him professionally, since the coaches, players, and the program was already established on his arrival - compliments of Jerry Moore.
And now, CC rewards him with a denial of a 25th year, the opportunity to go for yet another title with a group of veteran players, and the chance to leave with dignity and respect.Thats real gratitude, real loyalty, really classy. BTW, so what if they did "agree" this would be his last year, if CC hadn't committed to a HC, as he stated, whats the problem with another year.
One more thing, I've seen things stay up on the App website for days after their relevance, but Monday morning I couldn't find Coach Moore on the football staff to send him an email thanking him for his service. We just couldn't wait to get the legendary coach off the roster, could we?

[AppinVA]

Confused how so many people thought it was time. It was time when he said so, the end.

I get what you're saying, but no one man, even one as great as Jerry Moore, is bigger than the program he represents. By saying that he has absolute power to dictate when it's time to go, you're saying it's okay for him to have more power than his supervisor. It can't be that way. It just can't.

[bcoach]

Please, some of the comments I've read on here are down right shameful. Had it not been for Jerry Moore, does anyone honestly believe ASU would have 12 SoCon titles, 3 National Championships, have beaten Michigan, or have the attendance and the facilities that are there now??? The man gave 24 years of his life to this University. I think the very least that should have taken place is one more season. Even if they do announce they are going FBS, it won't be next year. And can you just imagine the atmosphere and attendance if everyone knew next year was his final season? I'm sorry, but this was another terrible decision by Charlie Cobb, and I truly hope the football program doesn't fail like mens basketball has since his last blunder.

His last TWO blunders.
CC's resume was built by JM. All CC did was show up. If no one else did, CC owed him another year.

The buck doesn't stop with CC. KP had to be on board.

Very true and look how he has handled some things the last couple years.

[biggie]

Confused how so many people thought it was time. It was time when he said so, the end.

I get what you're saying, but no one man, even one as great as Jerry Moore, is bigger than the program he represents. By saying that he has absolute power to dictate when it's time to go, you're saying it's okay for him to have more power than his supervisor. It can't be that way. It just can't.

Right now I think he had that power. Wasn't losing his mind, embarassing the school or anything. Deserved the chance to try another year.

Agreed that if they already had another coach lined up to come in that he shouldn't be allowed to come back. But they didn't. Seems that allowing Jerry to stay another year would have made the transition to Satterfield easier and would have been less hassle than this coaching search.