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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Rekdiver » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:16 pm

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Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
OUCH!
Some may say that Roof forgets the previous drives in each game....

Sorry, had to say it
I was going to be snarky and say.. “that’s the problem, he’s forgotten too much” but I decided not to say it.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by appgrad2010 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:34 am

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Coastal is steadily improving. Remember folks, Jamey Chadwell was at Charleston Southern when they came to Boone and won. A win is a win, and that program is on the up and up. No time to overlook the Chanticleers.
Actually Jamey was the QB for ETSU that came and won. I was in the stands that day. I know what Jamey can do. If anyone thinks he can never beat us again they are crazy. We need to bring our best and respect him. He is someone we have to take seriously. He is a great coach.

Might be correct, but I am referring to when CSU beat App State 27-25 in September of 2013.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:15 am

He is an excellent coach. Track record backs that up . My memory of that ETSU game does not have him at qb.Could be wrong.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am

AppSt94 wrote:
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Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am

ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by appstatealum » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:53 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
There has been a lot of “coach speak” over the last couple of weeks.
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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:16 am

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:53 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
There has been a lot of “coach speak” over the last couple of weeks.
One thing is for certain, Eli is very calculated in what he says.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:22 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
The point I was originally trying to make was that we have coaches on the staff who likely assisted in game planning for this same Coastal offense running the same type of scheme with many of the same players for the previous two seasons. They know what works, in general, and what doesn't. Of course the game plan for Coastal doesn't need to be sophisticated as it mostly comes down to coaching fundamentals and playing intelligently.

Again, my only gripe with the UNCC game was that we continued to man on the outside and bring safeties down in the box when it was shown to be largely ineffective. The final interception in the end zone was the result of playing cover 4 and Jolly made the right read to follow the receiver into the safeties zone. We saw more of that type of coverage against UNC and it showed on the scoreboard.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:23 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:16 am
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:53 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
There has been a lot of “coach speak” over the last couple of weeks.
One thing is for certain, Eli is very calculated in what he says.
ANyone happen to have links to Eli allegedly trash talking UNC during the week last week? Their fans seemed to be upset that he was talking trash and then backed it up on Saturday.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Yosef84 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:31 am

I never heard Coach Drink trash talk UNC or any other opponent before or after the game. All I heard him say was that we expected to win. I do think some Tarheel fans objected to him saying that. Bless their hearts!

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Re: Coastal Carolin

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:25 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:22 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
The point I was originally trying to make was that we have coaches on the staff who likely assisted in game planning for this same Coastal offense running the same type of scheme with many of the same players for the previous two seasons. They know what works, in general, and what doesn't. Of course the game plan for Coastal doesn't need to be sophisticated as it mostly comes down to coaching fundamentals and playing intelligently.

Again, my only gripe with the UNCC game was that we continued to man on the outside and bring safeties down in the box when it was shown to be largely ineffective. The final interception in the end zone was the result of playing cover 4 and Jolly made the right read to follow the receiver into the safeties zone. We saw more of that type of coverage against UNC and it showed on the scoreboard.
I don’t know that last years Coastal offense will look like last year. CJC is putting his stamp on things now, which is something that he wasn’t able to do last year, even as an interim, in waiting, whatever.

To your point on Charlotte, and we should end it because it is over, but that’s the type of coverage you get when you blitz. You just can’t cover the whole field. You pick your poison. The irony of the Jolly INT is that he was actually beaten on the play and Reynolds missed his target after being on point all half.

Back to the man to man from the corners. What is your solution? What would you have done in hindsight? What would you have done in game? We are replacing two experienced lockdown corners. These guys are good but are getting some OJT. How would you help them out? When you give me your gamelan, I want you provide me with the vulnerabilities in your coverage.
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:05 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:25 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:22 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am
ericsaid wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:05 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
Last year was last year. Knowing how to defend it and having the personnel to do it are two different things. I get it. You don't like Roof and you don't like giving him credit for anything. Cool. But Roof has probably forgotten more football than you know.
I like Roof just fine. I didn't like his Game Plan and lack of adjusting to what Charlotte did. I wasn't one of 200 people who posted in the "Hate Roof" thread either.
And I think that is a reasonable concern. But here’s the thing; we don’t know that they, (Roof and Drink) felt about what adjustments needed to be made. Given the film available from Charlotte’s game with GW, the game plan seemed simple, stop the run and make Reynolds and the passing game beat you. Based on the first half performance, it seemed to work for the most part. What Reynolds did in the second half was considerably different in terms of past performance. Drink’s comments after the game suggested that he was never worried about the outcome. Was that out of arrogance, truth, or was that coach speak to mask a mea culpa for not adjusting to what they were doing? We only have supposition to answer that question. My point is that things are not always what they appear. #BeatCoastal
The point I was originally trying to make was that we have coaches on the staff who likely assisted in game planning for this same Coastal offense running the same type of scheme with many of the same players for the previous two seasons. They know what works, in general, and what doesn't. Of course the game plan for Coastal doesn't need to be sophisticated as it mostly comes down to coaching fundamentals and playing intelligently.

Again, my only gripe with the UNCC game was that we continued to man on the outside and bring safeties down in the box when it was shown to be largely ineffective. The final interception in the end zone was the result of playing cover 4 and Jolly made the right read to follow the receiver into the safeties zone. We saw more of that type of coverage against UNC and it showed on the scoreboard.
I don’t know that last years Coastal offense will look like last year. CJC is putting his stamp on things now, which is something that he wasn’t able to do last year, even as an interim, in waiting, whatever.

To your point on Charlotte, and we should end it because it is over, but that’s rage type of coverage you get when you blitz. You just can’t cover the whole field. You pick your poison. The irony of the Jolly INT is that he was actually beaten on the play and Reynolds missed his target after being on point all half.

Back to the man to man from the corners. What is your solution? What would you have done in hindsight? What would you have done in game? We are replacing two experienced lockdown corners. These guys are good but are getting some OJT. How would you help them out? When you give me your gamelan, I want you provide me with the vulnerabilities in your coverage.
You are dead on. Jolly got beat on the crossing route and Reynolds threw behind his receiver.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:10 pm

appgrad2010 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:34 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:08 pm
appgrad2010 wrote:
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Coastal is steadily improving. Remember folks, Jamey Chadwell was at Charleston Southern when they came to Boone and won. A win is a win, and that program is on the up and up. No time to overlook the Chanticleers.
Actually Jamey was the QB for ETSU that came and won. I was in the stands that day. I know what Jamey can do. If anyone thinks he can never beat us again they are crazy. We need to bring our best and respect him. He is someone we have to take seriously. He is a great coach.

Might be correct, but I am referring to when CSU beat App State 27-25 in September of 2013.
That as well. I remember he was on the ETSU team that came in and upset App. That was a dark day.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Yosefus » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:21 pm

I do not think our guys are looking past CCU. No way with their record and stats. They will bloody their nose early but It may be a close one but our guys strength wins out. "1-0"

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Unread post by biggie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:35 pm

Saw they are adding standing room only spots in each end zone. Wonder if they sold more tickets than we first thought.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:18 pm

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Saw they are adding standing room only spots in each end zone. Wonder if they sold more tickets than we first thought.
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Unread post by NewApp » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:18 pm

I didn't think there was any room left in the NEZ.
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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:36 pm

Anyone else watching on TV not getting sound?

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Unread post by JohnnyBurrito » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:37 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
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Anyone else watching on TV not getting sound?
No sound for me. I get sound on other espn streams though.

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