NIL and future of NCAACF

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun May 18, 2025 7:38 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
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Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks
What if you want to fire the player?
Buyouts work both ways.

Kids are getting fired now.
I can’t imagine that donors and administrators want to pay a kid “not” to play.
Other schools or rather their boosters may start to pay players to not play for certain schools.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun May 18, 2025 8:23 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 7:38 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 9:38 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 9:10 am
bcoach wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 8:11 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 5:29 am
Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks
What if you want to fire the player?
Buyouts work both ways.

Kids are getting fired now.
I can’t imagine that donors and administrators want to pay a kid “not” to play.
Other schools or rather their boosters may start to pay players to not play for certain schools.
“A fool and his money are soon parted.”

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sun May 18, 2025 9:26 pm

I’ve often done stupid things with my money but I’ve never had stupid money. Such is the life of a booster with more money than sense.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by appst89 » Mon May 19, 2025 5:45 am

bcoach wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 8:11 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 5:29 am
Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks
What if you want to fire the player?
Then he's fired, if there is cause based upon the terms of the contract.

Two things are going to happen: 1) There will be an antitrust exemption from Congress. This has to happen in order for there to be any limitations on movement and eligibility and salary cap, etc. 2) Deals will be collectively bargained like the pro sports leagues. This will effectively be the death of college sports, but it will allow something to survive.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Mon May 19, 2025 6:20 am

All of this being said if you took the sum total of every college athlete at every level in every sport what would be the realistic percentage who actually appreciate and will play for a free ride degree? This has to still be over 99%. There have always been and there will always be delusional kids who think they are better than they really are (mostly due to overbearing parents, coaches and family members) and this annual bunch usually washes out if they don’t get their heads straight and realize their opportunities. There are obviously still the very small number (as a percentage) who are actually potentially good enough to go pro. I don’t believe that this number grows every year. The problem we have now is the secondary group- the good athletes who are looking for the money grab, won’t be going pro and either throw away the academic opportunities or simply bounce from school to school. The NCAA for all its faults really has known the best way for college athletics to operate. While it was always ridiculous to punish coaches, players and programs for seemingly small infractions like buying a meal the governing bodies knew what would happen once pay for play and a portal went into effect.

Again if you look at the sum total of all college athletes a great majority still value the opportunity, love competing and simply play for the degree. This entire deal comes down to probably 5% of all college athletes.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Mon May 19, 2025 8:07 am

appst89 wrote:
Mon May 19, 2025 5:45 am
bcoach wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 8:11 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 5:29 am
Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks
What if you want to fire the player?
Then he's fired, if there is cause based upon the terms of the contract.

Two things are going to happen: 1) There will be an antitrust exemption from Congress. This has to happen in order for there to be any limitations on movement and eligibility and salary cap, etc. 2) Deals will be collectively bargained like the pro sports leagues. This will effectively be the death of college sports, but it will allow something to survive.
It will be the death of Div 1 for sure. What will survive for sure is DIV 3 which is what all college sports should have been right along. I recently made a donation to a DIV 3 program earmarked for a specific sport and received thank you notes from some of the players. Where do you think my money is going next year.

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