If Satt goes, he's taking Woody with him, and at P5 money, paying him more as a D.C. Than App could as HCGoapps15 wrote:Satt will go at some point. If it's this off-season, I'd walk down the hallway and tell Woody it's your team now.
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It really doesnt matter what we pay him. If the right job at a P5 comes along he will take it. Im sure he knows we are paying what we can afford, and he wont leave Boone for another G5 school just to get a slight raise.MAD Doctor wrote:Unless we take better care of Satt financially, we'll lose him sooner rather than later. I'm sure most of you saw the recent article placing him near the bottom of the pack in salary (102)?, even low when compared to other SBC coaches. We can't help it if a really big time opportunity comes his way, but we need to at least be competitive in salary when it comes to most other G5 programs.
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Coach Satterfield will take whatever position he wants to take and we will all wish him well and honor him for everything he has done for APP STATE !!!
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Aside from geography, Wake Forest *is* one of the Iowa States of the world in terms of football.TheMackAttack wrote:Goapps15 wrote:Satt will go at some point. If it's this off-season, I'd walk down the hallway and tell Woody it's your team now.
I could see him leaving for someplace like Wake Forest or Virginia, but not the Iowa States of the world. I think he'll stay in this general region for a dozen more years until his kids are grown. If he does leave, I'd guess that he would take Woody with him.
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WF is 5-3 right now with UVA and BC still on the schedule. A bowling WF team won't be firing their coach.
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how times change!! Two years ago it was dump Satt on here,now its fear he leaves LOL
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Can't see him going to a WFU. As mentioned at the start of the thread the underlying aspect is "would he take a P5 job at a doormat program or even one that struggles to win"? The whole question stemmed from watching Iowa State. The crowd was fired up and Iowa State gave it a shot but today they are 1-8.
I grew up a Wake fan. Nobody hates Wake because they generally don't win much aside from the magical Grobe season. If a coach is given a 20 year deal they might have what, 5 winning seasons? Agree that if they go bowling there won't be a firing.
Just hope the situation at App doesn't get awkward. Somehow Satt has to get paid especially with other SB coaches getting twice what we pay. Loyalty and black and gold love only goes so far.
I grew up a Wake fan. Nobody hates Wake because they generally don't win much aside from the magical Grobe season. If a coach is given a 20 year deal they might have what, 5 winning seasons? Agree that if they go bowling there won't be a firing.
Just hope the situation at App doesn't get awkward. Somehow Satt has to get paid especially with other SB coaches getting twice what we pay. Loyalty and black and gold love only goes so far.
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Sendek left for another job, they didn't get rid of him.bigdaddyg wrote:For what it's worth I thought the same with Sendeck. Heck he took them to the tournament many years.97grad wrote:Seriously how many coaches can NC State chew through? I still think it was a mistake for them to get rid of O'Brien.
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Sat should be paid at least in line with the top 3 Sun Belt average, if not more. Anything less is just insulting based on his performance to this point. I know we gave him a raise last year, but it is time for another one. The admin has to make sure he knows he is wanted and we are doing everything we can to keep him. Now, even that probably wont stop him when the P5 comes calling, but if his life is really good here it just might. Either way, he should be paid with the tops in the sunbelt, if not all of G5.
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Why go back that far? Gottfried wasn't their top choice to replace Lowe. Also, remember many thinking Jay Wright not being considered good enough at the time.bigdaddyg wrote:Exactly. I recall a certain list of basketball coaches some years back. Wasn't Sid Lowe about the 5th choice?Saint3333 wrote:Classic State, go after the biggest name only to be turned down.JonW wrote:The rumblings around here in the Triangle is that if DD struggles coming down the stretch (already lost to BC) that the pack are going to throw a lot at Les Miles. I'm not sure that Miles would take the job, but he is on the short list should the headset in Raleigh come open at the end of the month.bigdaddyg wrote:I always have State in the second tier delusional group. They always think they should be better. I'm sure the Wolfpack club would clamor for a big nameMountaineerMafia wrote:I'd be more worried about NC State. If they finish flat again this year I could see DD gone. That job would pay much more than we could, be in a very winnable conference, and bring him closer to Orange county (maybe family is still there?). But I think that job only opens up if State finishes poorly this season.
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My 2¢... Scott and his family love Boone. By the time his contract runs out he'll be making great money by regular folks' standards living in a beautiful area away from intense media scrutiny and coaching his alma mater. There will be a LOT more than $$$ to weigh out for him and his family. He may just decide he's very happy here and wants to see how far he can take his/our program. I think more money would be anted up for him to get to the million dollar club on next contract or re-work of his current deal.
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When the right situation is offered, he will go. I would love to live in Boone or Valle Crucis right now, absolutely love it, but it does not work for me financially because of my retirement goals and chosen career path.
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Last October a 5 year contract was put in place for him which lasts through Dec 2020; HOWEVER, the fact that there's a "retention" bonus that's paid throughout the year indicates that it's a one-sided contract. In other words, he's guaranteed a job through Dec 2020, but could leave without penalty (other than giving up the unpaid portion of the retention bonus). I'm sure DG undestands the situation and if we win out the remainder of the schedule, Coach Satt's definitely going to be on a lot of peoples' short lists for openings and there are always openings...so the university's gonna have to show him the money at some point soon.
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Gillin has done some good work already to increase Satt's salary. It would be great if we could back the Brinks truck up to his house, but as well all know we have limited resources, plus I don't think we've realized the full financial benefits of the FBS move yet.
Also, there are more salaries to consider than just the head coach's. I suspect Satt would like his staff to get pay bumps as well. In some cases the head coach will ask that raises for the staff be prioritized over a raise for himself.
As far as State goes, one rule of thumb to keep in mind is that when a school fires a coach, they tend to try to find the opposite of whatever that coach was. Doeren came to State with a kind of dry public persona and a brief but successful stint as a G5 HC. Sound familiar? My guess is if they fire him (which I think might be another year away, but it could happen), they go first for a Les Miles type big name (which might not be as far-fetched as it sounds), then if that doesn't pan out, a trendy P5 coordinator.
Also, there are more salaries to consider than just the head coach's. I suspect Satt would like his staff to get pay bumps as well. In some cases the head coach will ask that raises for the staff be prioritized over a raise for himself.
As far as State goes, one rule of thumb to keep in mind is that when a school fires a coach, they tend to try to find the opposite of whatever that coach was. Doeren came to State with a kind of dry public persona and a brief but successful stint as a G5 HC. Sound familiar? My guess is if they fire him (which I think might be another year away, but it could happen), they go first for a Les Miles type big name (which might not be as far-fetched as it sounds), then if that doesn't pan out, a trendy P5 coordinator.
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I don't know why people want to use the word "insulting" when talking about this issue. Scott came back to Boone with eyes wide open about the salary situation. He was involved in the planning of the transition to FBS and he knows that App can't just flip a switch and pay a huge salary. Yes, we will need to continue increasing his salary aggressively but "insults" have nothing to do with it.
As others have pointed out, when the right offer comes along and the situation fits for what he wants, we won't be able to "buy" him back anyway. We just don't have the money available and we are already having to make hard decisions about how to spend what we have.
As others have pointed out, when the right offer comes along and the situation fits for what he wants, we won't be able to "buy" him back anyway. We just don't have the money available and we are already having to make hard decisions about how to spend what we have.
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I would hate to see it happen, but should NC State come calling with the $$$$ in the offer, I would be surprised to see Satt turn them down. FSU and Clemson are losses more often than not, but Louisville could be a flash in the Lamar Jackson pan. While their defense is the unsung hero, UL is not lighting up the football recruiting boards. As much as it pains me to say this because I have a particular disgust for each of the 3 programs, VaTech, Miami, and CHeat have perhaps a better future than Louisville. I could be wrong, but finishing 3rd in that division of the ACC is not out of a good NC State program and getting into the top 2 every once in awhile is not completely unreasonable.
Even if the most likely scenario of a Satt lead NC State program is consistently 7-5 or 8-4 and 3rd or 4th in the Atlantic Division, $2+ million dollars can make 4-5 losses a year a much easier pill to swallow.
Even if the most likely scenario of a Satt lead NC State program is consistently 7-5 or 8-4 and 3rd or 4th in the Atlantic Division, $2+ million dollars can make 4-5 losses a year a much easier pill to swallow.
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I'm just sayin' that THIS (App State) may be his "right" situation... NONE of us know. Believe it or not, everything isn't about the mighty dollar. He played and coached under Jerry Moore, a career coach more or less at App. Don't think for a minute Scott wasn't watching that all those years.
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They just hired a new coach last year, not there maybe somewhere else.bigdaddyg wrote:Watching Iowa State and OU. Has me thinking would Satt take a job (if available) at an Iowa State? Obviously the money would be good but would he leave for a P5 doormat?
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I really wish this wasn't a topic on our board...
But I want to believe the moves Satt made to Toledo and FIU may have soured he and Beth on the coaching carousel. I'd love to see us hold onto him while his kids are in school, but the money may be too much to ignore.
For now, let's focus on Texas State! GO APPS!!
But I want to believe the moves Satt made to Toledo and FIU may have soured he and Beth on the coaching carousel. I'd love to see us hold onto him while his kids are in school, but the money may be too much to ignore.
For now, let's focus on Texas State! GO APPS!!