Kidd Brewer

[EastHallApp]

Only two sell-outs? The permanent seating capacity at KBS is 24,050. By that metric, 4 out of the 5 homes games so far have been sell-outs:

Miami - 34,658
Ga State - 24,782
Idaho - 26,931
Tx State - 28,472

I don't believe we need much of an expansion (more of a reconfiguration), but to say that we've only had two sell-outs is wrong.

Kind of hard to argue it's a sellout if all the seats weren't sold. There were reserved seats available for every game but Miami and Texas State.

[asu66]

Guys and gals, continued use of this Charlie Cobb photoshop image is a pet peeve of mine. Charlie had this thrown together for a big poster board to use for a fund-raising teaser. It is not the conceptual work of an architectural or engineering firm; just one Charlie's spur of the moment "lightbulbs" to serve as a conversation piece.

It's actually very misleading, as it shows the East Stands being built out and over the Stadium Drive right-of-way and a dorm-tower complex being built over Stad. Dr. Believe me, the NCDOT isn't about to approve any such monstrosity. Eight or so years ago, the university toyed with the idea of closing Stadium Drive. The residential community atop the ridge went apoplectic and the DOT placed it at the very bottom of its ten-year projects for potential funding list for the Watauga region. That's another way of telling the university to forgedaboutit.

[asu66]

Guys and gals, continued use of this Charlie Cobb photoshop image is a pet peeve of mine. Charlie had this thrown together for a big poster board to use for a fund-raising teaser. It is not the conceptual work of an architectural or engineering firm; just one of Charlie's spur of the moment "lightbulbs" to serve as a conversation piece.

It's actually very misleading, as it shows the East Stands being built out and over the Stadium Drive right-of-way and a dorm-tower complex being built over Stad. Dr. Believe me, the NCDOT isn't about to approve any such monstrosity. Eight or so years ago, the university toyed with the idea of closing Stadium Drive at the south border of the Quinn Center site. The residential community atop the ridge went apoplectic and the DOT placed the proposal at the very bottom of its ten-year projects for potential funding list for the Watauga region. That's another way of telling the university to forgedaboutit.

[smokeshow]

I don't know much about the deck other than that is the option right now. I know more about Owens than anything. I wouldn't say we are expanding as much as reconfiguration. The new Owens will definitely reconfigure The Rock but wont expand it a ton seating wise. It will definitely increase club seating though.

[smokeshow]

I don't know much about the deck other than that is the option right now. I know more about Owens than anything. I wouldn't say we are expanding as much as reconfiguration. The new Owens will definitely reconfigure The Rock but wont expand it a ton seating wise. It will definitely increase club seating though.

[YesAppCan]

It would be dumb to spend millions to expand a stadium we don't even fill as is.

We literally sold every seat just this past Saturday

Plus about 4500 more!

[YesAppCan]

Here's my question on this: Do we feel we will not expand growth as a fan base in the future? I believe we will, thus my pro stance on expansion. We have an absolute under-supplied demand for club seating. Expansion will only get more expensive moving forward. And, yes, we do have a problem with folks leaving early, nearly every school does but those are paid for seats. IMO, we have to expand to bring in home games against ECU, Va Tech, Virginia and UNC.

[Rick83]

Only two sell-outs? The permanent seating capacity at KBS is 24,050. By that metric, 4 out of the 5 homes games so far have been sell-outs:

Miami - 34,658
Ga State - 24,782
Idaho - 26,931
Tx State - 28,472

I don't believe we need much of an expansion (more of a reconfiguration), but to say that we've only had two sell-outs is wrong.

I think it depends on your definition of "sell-out." I could be wrong, but I think we still had reserve seat tickets available for Ga State and Idaho, so it was a combination of the students and general admission (the hill people) that pushed us above the official seating capacity. My opinion is to complete the U on the Owens Field house side and leave the hill as it is. If we keep winning we're going to need seats, It also would be a good time to change the name from Kidd Brewer to Jerry Moore IMO.

[RollNeers]

I'm excited to see how/if the new scoreboard will get people in seats rather than being on the hill. I think it will help make the stadium look more full.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

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For example, Tennessee has expanded twice in the last decade and both times the capacity went down.

It is logic like this that has put the USA in the position it is now.

[ASU3432Mi]

Neyland Stadium is a dump compared to our facility.

[Boone Goon]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

[MtnMan09]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

ECU doesn't have a law school...

[bcoach]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

Your plan is to build a university to support the football team?

[Boone Goon]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

ECU doesn't have a law school...

In 2003 they entered into a partnership with Tulane to help their students get their bachelors and JD in 6 years. I certainly don't think it's comparable to Duke's, but the point of my post is that helping funnel students into degrees with higher average incomes will benefit the university in multiple ways. And we have to recognize there are inherent benefits to growing the university's enrollment and infastructure beyond just the athletic facilities and it will ultimately benefit the athletics program. ...A rising tide raises all ships.

[Boone Goon]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

Your plan is to build a university to support the football team?

Continue to grow our university so it can continue to support our athletics program at the level the future will require.

[MtnMan09]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

ECU doesn't have a law school...

In 2003 they entered into a partnership with Tulane to help their students get their bachelors and JD in 6 years. I certainly don't think it's comparable to Duke's, but the point of my post is that helping funnel students into degrees with higher average incomes will benefit the university in multiple ways. And we have to recognize there are inherent benefits to growing the university's enrollment and infastructure beyond just the athletic facilities and it will ultimately benefit the athletics program. ...A rising tide raises all ships.

Yeah its not even comparable to Charlotte's because its not a law school. Its a partnership that shaves off 1 year if you happen to get accepted at one of the partner law schools. Anyways I get what you are saying about seeking to increase offerings past the traditional liberal arts and teaching courses that will generate (hopefully) a higher earning alumni base. I think people agree that such programs will help the university and I believe the new health sciences college and the nursing program was a great start.

[Yosef84]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

Your plan is to build a university to support the football team?

Continue to grow our university so it can continue to support our athletics program at the level the future will require.

I think his point is that the relationship is backwards. As much as I love App State sports, it is the sports programs which support the University....not the other way around.

[Rekdiver]

There will be a rush to get on the top deck....I would assume $2,500 and up get the sunshine

[AppDawg]

The university has a lot of construction planned as seen in the 2025 drawings.

As we think long term (20+ years out) we should think about increasing enrollment (classrooms & student housing) as a way to increase our alumni base so attendance & donations can also increase. Looking at ECU they've done some smart things to increase the number of high income alumni over time. Adding law school, more medical degrees and other traditionally high income degrees will fuel them for years. I hate to admit it but they are an athletic program to watch out for going forward.

Your plan is to build a university to support the football team?

Continue to grow our university so it can continue to support our athletics program at the level the future will require.

I think his point is that the relationship is backwards. As much as I love App State sports, it is the sports programs which support the University....not the other way around.

Neither are mutually exclusive of the other.... "the cycle of life" Athletics markets and brings students. The Degrees offered by the University, generates Alumni who give back to BOTH the University and Athletics. The point is by offering more degrees with higher earning potential there will theoretically be increased donations to YOSEF and the like.

It is often cited the large number of living Alumni we have, yet the low $$'s donated. Fact is, while I am thankful to all the teachers and appreciate the roots of Appalachian, teachers represent a significant portion of the living Alumni and their pay is pitiful. "Low paying" careers don't allow for the discretionary income that a Professional school would. The growth of the business school has helped. But we do need something else.

I think Peacock got us moving in the right direction with the Nursing program. If done right, I can see this growing into a medical school.... but how far off is that?