Playoffs or bowl game?

[CVAPP]

Bowl. I am not missing living life week to week during the holiday season. Been there, done that.

I agree. I like the bowl system, and want it to remain in place as long as possible.

I don't think 15-17 game seasons are reasonable. 12 reg, a conference championship (13), and a first round playoff gets you to 14. It appears most around here need to think with their big heads instead of their little heads.

Fair point. I wasn't really thinking too far into the logistics of it, more on the relative appeal of a championship playoff vs. a midtier bowl game.

That said, what people consider acceptable is heavily influenced by what they're accustomed to. 20 years ago most bowl teams played 12-game seasons. Now the teams in the title game play 15, and they still sit around for a month in between their conference title games and the semifinals. And I've heard little outcry about the length of those teams' season.

Why would you hear any outcry from a fan base that gets to have a reasonably normal holiday season?

[EastHallApp]

Bowl. I am not missing living life week to week during the holiday season. Been there, done that.

I agree. I like the bowl system, and want it to remain in place as long as possible.

I don't think 15-17 game seasons are reasonable. 12 reg, a conference championship (13), and a first round playoff gets you to 14. It appears most around here need to think with their big heads instead of their little heads.

Fair point. I wasn't really thinking too far into the logistics of it, more on the relative appeal of a championship playoff vs. a midtier bowl game.

That said, what people consider acceptable is heavily influenced by what they're accustomed to. 20 years ago most bowl teams played 12-game seasons. Now the teams in the title game play 15, and they still sit around for a month in between their conference title games and the semifinals. And I've heard little outcry about the length of those teams' season.

Why would you hear any outcry from a fan base that gets to have a reasonably normal holiday season?

I thought the complaint was that the overall number of games would be too many. Is your concern now that a few would be playing around Christmas?

[CVAPP]

I thought the complaint was that the overall number of games would be too many. Is your concern now that a few would be playing around Christmas?

It's both, qualified by pre-Christmas playoff games for the lower-bracketed teams. Too much on a team and on a fan base to live week by week like that. Far prefer a trip to a bowl game that can be planned.

[JGthatsme86]

Playoff...because I always believe.

[AppStateMtneer]

Playoff!

[ashugh]

Bowl. Playoffs are too long, too unpredictable and at the wrong time of the year. Get us in a New Year Day Bowl and I'll take it 10 outta 10 times until we get in a P5 conference.

[bcoach]

Play off for sure. I will always miss them.

[T-Dog]

FBS playoffs should be no bigger than 8 teams. I'd take that with a G5 autobid over any other option.

[EastHallApp]

Bowl. Playoffs are too long, too unpredictable and at the wrong time of the year. Get us in a New Year Day Bowl and I'll take it 10 outta 10 times until we get in a P5 conference.

NY6 bowl would be a tougher call for me. OP's premise was 16-team playoff vs. "midtier bowl." That would be a step up from our current tie-ins but not really anything that would be a major advance for the program IMO.

[AppSt94]

Playoff.

[MtnDevil95]

Playoff over the antiquated bowl system.

Having said that, I don't think a 16 team playoff is feasible given the number of games and time of year. I do think an 8 team playoff is reasonable and better than the current 4 team CFP. I also believe making an "Elite Eight" with 1 auto bid for the G5 is within the realm of possibility for an App State football team (just like making a New Year's Six currently).

[bigdaddyg]

Playoff over the antiquated bowl system.

Having said that, I don't think a 16 team playoff is feasible given the number of games and time of year. I do think an 8 team playoff is reasonable and better than the current 4 team CFP. I also believe making an "Elite Eight" with 1 auto bid for the G5 is within the realm of possibility for an App State football team (just like making a New Year's Six currently).

I don't honestly think that it would go to a 16 team format. The entire premise was based upon a purely hypothetical scenario. Going with 16 teams (App slipping in at 16) with a potential matchup with a powerhouse like Alabama was used as an extreme. I also used the alternative of a mid tier bowl as it would be a step up from our current tie in. I don't even know what that bowl would be. Off the top of my head I would go with Peach or Gator as they are in our geographical region and would help with recruiting. The ultimate contra to the playoff would be the NY6 bowl. Of course would that bowl help with recruiting? I really wasn't even thinking beyond the first round as in this scenario we would unfortunately get whipped in that game.

[AppSt94]

Playoff over the antiquated bowl system.

Having said that, I don't think a 16 team playoff is feasible given the number of games and time of year. I do think an 8 team playoff is reasonable and better than the current 4 team CFP. I also believe making an "Elite Eight" with 1 auto bid for the G5 is within the realm of possibility for an App State football team (just like making a New Year's Six currently).

I actually would go the other way and say that 16 is not enough. 24 team playoff with the 5 P5 conference champs and the three highest ranked teams of the G5 champs and the independents getting first round byes. The other G5 champs and at large teams that make up the remaining 16 play each other in the first round. First round losers and non playoff teams are eligible for bowl games that are played in between Christmas and New Years.

[ASU2012]

Playoffs

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[EastHallApp]

I think 8 or 12 is the best number. 16 would be cool if it meant every conference got an auto bid. But unless it were run by the NCAA that seems unlikely.

[MtnDevil95]

I see your point about a comparison of worst case playoff scenario to a bowl with more visibility than the Camellia Bowl. . . I'm still in the playoff is the better option camp.

From a visibility and resulting recruiting benefits perspective having a go at an Alabama caliber team in the first round of the playoffs is still better than a mid market bowl game, even likely better than a NY6 bowl. If you adjust the supposition to a play-in scenario where the G5 conference champs have to play each other for a berth in the playoff with P5 teams, I still think App State v. Houston or Western Michigan is a better option than a NY6 bowl would be under the current bowl clusterf**k.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

As long as we are national champs, I don't care of the route to get there.

[bcoach]

I know I am in the minority and in fact am probably all by my lonesome on this. I would much rather have a shot at a championship than to be one of 40 teams to walk away with a trophy because we won one non conference game. Three times we have been able to say we were the best. Would love to have that feeling again. Not going to happen without a playoff and I am fine but the question was asked.