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Re: Zac

Unread post by yosef69 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:45 pm
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At this rate he may not be the starter next year.
As I noted on another thread, Zac has a talented arm and good feet to get him out of trouble. The problem that he has is staring down receivers. He usually overcomes that by bailing out and running or just making a great throw even when the defender sees his read. Over the last two games, this is starting to catch up to him. He must start going through his progressions or defenses can look at what GAS did and mimmick it to give Zac trouble. Zac definitely has some demons this year, and I'm not sure why he has struggled mentally. This is where Drink the Head Coach needs to work hard and get Zac comfortable, or 69 is right, we could have a new face at the helm next year. All you need to do is go back and watch the replay of the game and watch Zacs head after the ball is snapped, it will tell you all you need to know.

I'm still struggling to get over the third down where he overthrew Evans on the flat and Corey was wide open in the back of the end zone. It was a really rough night for Zac.
Thanks for not ripping me like everyone else. The fact of the matter is we have teo other highly rated quarterbacks. What's wrong with competition?

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Re: Zac

Unread post by General Moore » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:51 pm

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I don’t think many people understand how hard it is to throw a wet ball in 23 mph wind.
Nail on the head. Playcalling. Should have had zac rolling out left and right each play with a short pass or option to tuck and run for 5 or so yards every down. That is his weaponry. Trying to pocket pass in those conditions was just stupid.
Bad part is Georgia Southern did just that and called the play's we should have.
I want to just throw up knowing that we could easily be 8-0 right now.
Short passes and tuck n run in those conditions and we were would have dominated thier asses.
It Just sux.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:43 am

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I don’t think many people understand how hard it is to throw a wet ball in 23 mph wind.
Has nothing to do with staring down receivers. It's a fair critique of what Zac was doing. If you recorded the game, just go back and watch it.
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Re: Zac

Unread post by MountainMan2020 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 am

Boroneer10 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:57 pm
I don’t think many people understand how hard it is to throw a wet ball in 23 mph wind.
Granted I wasn’t there, can’t watch, and listen to games from overseas... but why did we throw 2x with 3rd and 4 and a chance to win the game? It seemed to me a much lower chance of converting relative to the ground game.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:18 am

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It’s possible Zac didn’t see Corey in that corner. I’m finding Zac looking at his first then working his progression. Sometimes he gets fixated but I’m finding that rare.
Even more rare were the holding calls on GaS the no call pass interference and inconsistent whistles.
It wasn't a "one off" occurrence. It happened all game. I really like Zac because I know what he is capable of, but this year was his chance to take it up a notch and he has been struggling with some things this year, notably not going through his progressions.
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Re: Zac

Unread post by appdaze » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:21 am

Take little cups. Light a flame under it to take out the oxygen. Quickly place on body. Vacuum sucks up skin in to the cup. Leave there for a while and sometimes the cups fall off or get removed. The positives are debatable.

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Unread post by Yosefus » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:39 am

Don't know if cupping works or not. Kind of voodoo medicine to me.
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Re: Zac

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:56 am

MountainMan2020 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 am
Boroneer10 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:57 pm
I don’t think many people understand how hard it is to throw a wet ball in 23 mph wind.
Granted I wasn’t there, can’t watch, and listen to games from overseas... but why did we throw 2x with 3rd and 4 and a chance to win the game? It seemed to me a much lower chance of converting relative to the ground game.
Exactly - of all the things I found puzzling the entire game this sequence was at the top of my list. 2 plays to make 3 1/2 yards --- the DBs were not going to come up because a pass over them would win the game - We have a tough QB who would get every inch he could and RBs who would do the same - Really, really puzzling :?:
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Re: Zac

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:06 am

yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:45 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:01 pm
At this rate he may not be the starter next year.
As I noted on another thread, Zac has a talented arm and good feet to get him out of trouble. The problem that he has is staring down receivers. He usually overcomes that by bailing out and running or just making a great throw even when the defender sees his read. Over the last two games, this is starting to catch up to him. He must start going through his progressions or defenses can look at what GAS did and mimmick it to give Zac trouble. Zac definitely has some demons this year, and I'm not sure why he has struggled mentally. This is where Drink the Head Coach needs to work hard and get Zac comfortable, or 69 is right, we could have a new face at the helm next year. All you need to do is go back and watch the replay of the game and watch Zacs head after the ball is snapped, it will tell you all you need to know.

I'm still struggling to get over the third down where he overthrew Evans on the flat and Corey was wide open in the back of the end zone. It was a really rough night for Zac.
Thanks for not ripping me like everyone else. The fact of the matter is we have teo other highly rated quarterbacks. What's wrong with competition?
Nothing wrong with competition but no one will unseat Zac next year at QB. We return 9 starters on offense and the two leaving have quality replacements. Using a Freshman over Zac next year would be career suicide for Drink.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by Rick83 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:56 am
MountainMan2020 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 am
Boroneer10 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:57 pm
I don’t think many people understand how hard it is to throw a wet ball in 23 mph wind.
Granted I wasn’t there, can’t watch, and listen to games from overseas... but why did we throw 2x with 3rd and 4 and a chance to win the game? It seemed to me a much lower chance of converting relative to the ground game.
Exactly - of all the things I found puzzling the entire game this sequence was at the top of my list. 2 plays to make 3 1/2 yards --- the DBs were not going to come up because a pass over them would win the game - We have a tough QB who would get every inch he could and RBs who would do the same - Really, really puzzling :?:
The only thing I thought with that was that maybe Drink was counting on either the pass being caught or the receiver drawing a PI call but the refs weren't cutting us much slack in that department.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by The Rock » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:57 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:06 am
yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:45 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:01 pm
At this rate he may not be the starter next year.
As I noted on another thread, Zac has a talented arm and good feet to get him out of trouble. The problem that he has is staring down receivers. He usually overcomes that by bailing out and running or just making a great throw even when the defender sees his read. Over the last two games, this is starting to catch up to him. He must start going through his progressions or defenses can look at what GAS did and mimmick it to give Zac trouble. Zac definitely has some demons this year, and I'm not sure why he has struggled mentally. This is where Drink the Head Coach needs to work hard and get Zac comfortable, or 69 is right, we could have a new face at the helm next year. All you need to do is go back and watch the replay of the game and watch Zacs head after the ball is snapped, it will tell you all you need to know.

I'm still struggling to get over the third down where he overthrew Evans on the flat and Corey was wide open in the back of the end zone. It was a really rough night for Zac.
Thanks for not ripping me like everyone else. The fact of the matter is we have teo other highly rated quarterbacks. What's wrong with competition?
Nothing wrong with competition but no one will unseat Zac next year at QB. We return 9 starters on offense and the two leaving have quality replacements. Using a Freshman over Zac next year would be career suicide for Drink.
Not saying it will happen or should, but just saying going with a freshman over an established QB isn’t necessary career suicide. Just ask Dabo Sweeney.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 pm

DBG isn’t Trevor Lawrence.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:50 pm

Next year more than this year would definitely open the door to a QB camp battle. Zac is the front runner, obviously, but if RGB shows a mastery of the playbook and has more tangibles, you never know. I invite the opportunity to have camp battles.
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Re: Zac

Unread post by Boroneer10 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:21 pm

This is insanity, Zac is our starting QB until he exhaust his eligibility. Everyone get a grip, he threw for 270 and 3 TDS in a bad wind and rain storm.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by App91 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:22 pm

Issue is in the last 2 games plus has been wildly inaccurate, yes i have seen the drops, but this has been the case. Low and behind is his window. With that holding the ball that second or two too long, almost as if indecisive. Also, totally locked on TH when others are wide open. Looks like sutton is frustrated.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:29 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:50 pm
Next year more than this year would definitely open the door to a QB camp battle. Zac is the front runner, obviously, but if RGB shows a mastery of the playbook and has more tangibles, you never know. I invite the opportunity to have camp battles.
I am struggling to understand your motivation for picking on Zac. Do you have an agenda? I mean, have you called this out while we were winning? All I can say is that if there is someone on the roster that can do better than 17-2 (3) as a starter, then we are in pretty good shape.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:41 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:29 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:50 pm
Next year more than this year would definitely open the door to a QB camp battle. Zac is the front runner, obviously, but if RGB shows a mastery of the playbook and has more tangibles, you never know. I invite the opportunity to have camp battles.
I am struggling to understand your motivation for picking on Zac. Do you have an agenda? I mean, have you called this out while we were winning? All I can say is that if there is someone on the roster that can do better than 17-2 (3) as a starter, then we are in pretty good shape.
No agenda. I actually said that I liked Zac and I know what he is capable of. I've been disappointed by his play over the last few games, mainly because he isn't going through his progressions and is force feeding Henni. This is correctable stuff, he just needs to get his head back into the game. I just said if RGB puts himself in a position to push Zac in camp, that'd be a great thing. I said it is a possibility next season because RGB will have had time to learn the playbook and obviously he has a lot of tangibles to bring to the field. In fact, I hope we are deep enough to where every starting player is pushed by a two deep.
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Re: Zac

Unread post by AppOrange » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:48 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:45 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:01 pm
At this rate he may not be the starter next year.
As I noted on another thread, Zac has a talented arm and good feet to get him out of trouble. The problem that he has is staring down receivers. He usually overcomes that by bailing out and running or just making a great throw even when the defender sees his read. Over the last two games, this is starting to catch up to him. He must start going through his progressions or defenses can look at what GAS did and mimmick it to give Zac trouble. Zac definitely has some demons this year, and I'm not sure why he has struggled mentally. This is where Drink the Head Coach needs to work hard and get Zac comfortable, or 69 is right, we could have a new face at the helm next year. All you need to do is go back and watch the replay of the game and watch Zacs head after the ball is snapped, it will tell you all you need to know.

I'm still struggling to get over the third down where he overthrew Evans on the flat and Corey was wide open in the back of the end zone. It was a really rough night for Zac.
Thanks for not ripping me like everyone else. The fact of the matter is we have teo other highly rated quarterbacks. What's wrong with competition?
On a related note, Zac named one of ten Unitas award finalists
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Re: Zac

Unread post by App91 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:07 pm

Is there any concern that Zac is injured in some way? That is the only way to explain the unbelievable inaccuracy over the past two games looks indecisive and holding the ball too long. For that mattermwe are concenred about evans much more dancing in the hole and going down quickly with contact. They eyes dont lie.

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Re: Zac

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:13 pm

Zac has done a good job navigating the pocket... He just isn't trusting his time to progress through his reads. It's odd, because he knows what kind of arm he has. It's got to be a mental thing he is going though right now. Drink just needs to work on it and next week would be a great game to get right.
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