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[Yosef84]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

I don't see how you can call an undefeated defending national champion a "totally undeserving ACC team." I get that the ACC is WAY down this year but the individual team gets the bid, not the entire conference. No way can you ever leave an undefeated defending champ out of the playoffs, so No....Clemson is absolutely not "worse than a one-loss Boise". Clemson would destroy BSU and even as an incredible homer, they would destroy App also (barring a melt down similar to their UNC game).

The AAC's "P6" narrative is a promotional stunt. They are on par with ACC/PAC12 because those conferences are historically week this year, not because the AAC is actually functioning on a P5 level. Although there do seem to be more "good" AAC teams clustered at the top this year, none of them are a valid threat to a top 10 team like CFU was a couple of years ago. I have no real problem with their promotional use of the "P6" but I do find it annoying that many of them accept it as fact and somehow expect the rest of the G5 to buy into it.

[CornCobPipes]

Look at the stats and schedules folks. Boise probably on paper has the easiest trek to the cotton swabs than anyone. Memphis, Cincinnati, SMU it gets a little more difficult. Defense usually trumps offense and SMUs defense is abysmal.

[shortfatoldapp]

If the conference commissioners' office won't, nationally, respond to this, our Athletic Director should!! This ole boy for the aac has made it personal!

[ericsaid]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

"Aresco took particular exception to No. 25 SMU's ranking behind No. 24 Appalachian State this week. He also disagreed with the Mustangs sitting behind No. 20 Boise State and two four-loss Power 5 teams, No. 22 Iowa State and No. 23 USC.

"We've been fighting what I think is a P5 preference," Aresco said. "We've been fighting it for years and we're fighting now a double standard when it comes to evaluating G5 teams.""

These are the two things I don't get. Dogs on App State and Boise State while saying he's fighting a double standard when it comes to evaluating G5 teams.

He could end the debate right now by extending an offer to App.

[BeauFoster]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

I don't see how you can call an undefeated defending national champion a "totally undeserving ACC team." I get that the ACC is WAY down this year but the individual team gets the bid, not the entire conference. No way can you ever leave an undefeated defending champ out of the playoffs, so No....Clemson is absolutely not "worse than a one-loss Boise". Clemson would destroy BSU and even as an incredible homer, they would destroy App also (barring a melt down similar to their UNC game).

The AAC's "P6" narrative is a promotional stunt. They are on par with ACC/PAC12 because those conferences are historically week this year, not because the AAC is actually functioning on a P5 level. Although there do seem to be more "good" AAC teams clustered at the top this year, none of them are a valid threat to a top 10 team like CFU was a couple of years ago. I have no real problem with their promotional use of the "P6" but I do find it annoying that many of them accept it as fact and somehow expect the rest of the G5 to buy into it.

If Clemson wins out, the ACC ends up with 2 teams in BCS bowls-Clemson to the playoff and their runner up to the Orange Bowl (I believe).

[moonshine]

I'm not too bent out of shape because it's his job to promote his conference. If he is out there saying Boise State or App State should be higher than his conference's teams, he is in the wrong gig.

I'm probably different from a lot of people on this board because I actually agree that as of now, SMU should be ahead of App. Their TCU win is as good as any of App's and possibly better. But I'm also more down on Memphis current resume. I certainly don't think they have the best profile of any of the G5 as of today. Now if they win out with a road win against South Florida and possibly two straight wins against Cincy, that's probably all she wrote and the Tigers will likely be the G5 rep and deservedly so.

I have no problem with him promoting his conference but unless he's extending App an invite, he'd do well to just keep other's names out of his mouth. His "double standard" issue should be with the 3-4 loss teams in the rankings, not App and Boise. He could've made his point without trying to call out App and Boise.

Not to knock SMU's win over TCU but the frogs are .500 with 2 of their wins coming against Ark Pine Bluff and RockchalkJayhawk. Those horned toads take on the Sooner Schooners this weekend and will likely be sub .500 come Sunday morning. App has 2 wins over sub .500 A5 teams so I'd call it a push.

[AppInDC]

I'm not too bent out of shape because it's his job to promote his conference. If he is out there saying Boise State or App State should be higher than his conference's teams, he is in the wrong gig.

I'm probably different from a lot of people on this board because I actually agree that as of now, SMU should be ahead of App. Their TCU win is as good as any of App's and possibly better. But I'm also more down on Memphis current resume. I certainly don't think they have the best profile of any of the G5 as of today. Now if they win out with a road win against South Florida and possibly two straight wins against Cincy, that's probably all she wrote and the Tigers will likely be the G5 rep and deservedly so.

I have no problem with him promoting his conference but unless he's extending App an invite, he'd do well to just keep other's names out of his mouth. His "double standard" issue should be with the 3-4 loss teams in the rankings, not App and Boise. He could've made his point without trying to call out App and Boise.

Not to knock SMU's win over TCU but the frogs are .500 with 2 of their wins coming against Ark Pine Bluff and RockchalkJayhawk. Those horned toads take on the Sooner Schooners this weekend and will likely be sub .500 come Sunday morning. App has 2 wins over sub .500 A5 teams so I'd call it a push.

Remember, the three and four loss teams are irrelevant in this discussion. USC and Iowa State aren't the ones that could keep an American champ out of a NY6 bowl. It's App and Boise State. We are the threat.

Now if it was a year like the last two where they had an undefeated team possibly challenging the established order for a playoff bid, then he would focus on P5 teams with losses and say they are overrated. But for 2019, Boise/App are the legit threats to his conference so we understandably draw his fire.

[appgrad95&97]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

I don't see how you can call an undefeated defending national champion a "totally undeserving ACC team." I get that the ACC is WAY down this year but the individual team gets the bid, not the entire conference. No way can you ever leave an undefeated defending champ out of the playoffs, so No....Clemson is absolutely not "worse than a one-loss Boise". Clemson would destroy BSU and even as an incredible homer, they would destroy App also (barring a melt down similar to their UNC game).

The AAC's "P6" narrative is a promotional stunt. They are on par with ACC/PAC12 because those conferences are historically week this year, not because the AAC is actually functioning on a P5 level. Although there do seem to be more "good" AAC teams clustered at the top this year, none of them are a valid threat to a top 10 team like CFU was a couple of years ago. I have no real problem with their promotional use of the "P6" but I do find it annoying that many of them accept it as fact and somehow expect the rest of the G5 to buy into it.

If Clemson wins out, the ACC ends up with 2 teams in BCS bowls-Clemson to the playoff and their runner up to the Orange Bowl (I believe).

I was not talking about Clemson. If they win out they will be in the playoff. But that means a 3 or 4 loss ACC team will be in the Orange Bowl. THAT, to me is absolutely ridiculous.

[BeauFoster]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

I don't see how you can call an undefeated defending national champion a "totally undeserving ACC team." I get that the ACC is WAY down this year but the individual team gets the bid, not the entire conference. No way can you ever leave an undefeated defending champ out of the playoffs, so No....Clemson is absolutely not "worse than a one-loss Boise". Clemson would destroy BSU and even as an incredible homer, they would destroy App also (barring a melt down similar to their UNC game).

The AAC's "P6" narrative is a promotional stunt. They are on par with ACC/PAC12 because those conferences are historically week this year, not because the AAC is actually functioning on a P5 level. Although there do seem to be more "good" AAC teams clustered at the top this year, none of them are a valid threat to a top 10 team like CFU was a couple of years ago. I have no real problem with their promotional use of the "P6" but I do find it annoying that many of them accept it as fact and somehow expect the rest of the G5 to buy into it.

If Clemson wins out, the ACC ends up with 2 teams in BCS bowls-Clemson to the playoff and their runner up to the Orange Bowl (I believe).

I was not talking about Clemson. If they win out they will be in the playoff. But that means a 3 or 4 loss ACC team will be in the Orange Bowl. THAT, to me is absolutely ridiculous.

Right - I was confirming what you said and explaining how an undeserving ACC team will get into the Orange Bowl. And it is ridiculous. I don't see why there are "auto bids" for the P5 teams, anyway. They already get the benefit of the doubt (some deserved, some not), so why continue to slant the playing field?

[Rick83]

I agree. BUT, if you really see yourself as a "Power 6" conference why not use this season to take a shot at the ACC? If Clemson wins out, a totally undeserving ACC team will go to the Orange Bowl. Isn't that worse than a one-loss Bosie or Appalachian State getting in the NY6 over a 2-loss AAC champ?

I don't see how you can call an undefeated defending national champion a "totally undeserving ACC team." I get that the ACC is WAY down this year but the individual team gets the bid, not the entire conference. No way can you ever leave an undefeated defending champ out of the playoffs, so No....Clemson is absolutely not "worse than a one-loss Boise". Clemson would destroy BSU and even as an incredible homer, they would destroy App also (barring a melt down similar to their UNC game).

The AAC's "P6" narrative is a promotional stunt. They are on par with ACC/PAC12 because those conferences are historically week this year, not because the AAC is actually functioning on a P5 level. Although there do seem to be more "good" AAC teams clustered at the top this year, none of them are a valid threat to a top 10 team like CFU was a couple of years ago. I have no real problem with their promotional use of the "P6" but I do find it annoying that many of them accept it as fact and somehow expect the rest of the G5 to buy into it.

If Clemson wins out, the ACC ends up with 2 teams in BCS bowls-Clemson to the playoff and their runner up to the Orange Bowl (I believe).

I was not talking about Clemson. If they win out they will be in the playoff. But that means a 3 or 4 loss ACC team will be in the Orange Bowl. THAT, to me is absolutely ridiculous.

Right - I was confirming what you said and explaining how an undeserving ACC team will get into the Orange Bowl. And it is ridiculous. I don't see why there are "auto bids" for the P5 teams, anyway. They already get the benefit of the doubt (some deserved, some not), so why continue to slant the playing field?

The P5 conferences call the shots so they are obviously going to slant things their way. The NY6 access bowl was merely a bone thrown to the G5 conferences because they know it's not fair.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Aresco has chin nuts.

[Boone Goon]

Doug should respond with a list of "Open Dates" App has on it's future schedule.

[goapps93]

He wasn't talking about us. He referred to some school called Appalayshin State. Either that or he hasn't read our media guide.

[MAD Doctor]

Aresco whines about SMU not being ranked. So they’re ranked. And then Navy sinks their battleship.