Update: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with 1 OOC, SEC goes 10 game conference only

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:26 pm

Wake may try to defer App game because it is too tough per this article.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:27 pm

Woodstovegang wrote:
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WAKE will keep ND as OOC
ND is a conference game this year
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by Woodstovegang » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:38 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:27 pm
Woodstovegang wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:25 pm
WAKE will keep ND as OOC
ND is a conference game this year
Might keep the schedule then
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by ah59396 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:11 pm

Is anyone else horrified by the idea that we might have a shot at the NY6 game and it not allow any fans?

These ACC games would be good enough to bolster our SoS but frankly more winnable than Wisconsin.
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by AppinVA » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:18 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:11 pm
Is anyone else horrified by the idea that we might have a shot at the NY6 game and it not allow any fans?

These ACC games would be good enough to bolster our SoS but frankly more winnable than Wisconsin.
If we could get everything to fall right, this could be just what we need. As much as I’d like to be in Atlanta, I’ll cheer hard for a Peach Bowl victory from in front of my television
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by APPChad90 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:48 pm

Notre Dame is posted as one of Wake’s 10 Conference games per new ACC schedule so they still have a plus one game to announce.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by WASU 93 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:15 pm

APPChad90 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:48 pm
Notre Dame is posted as one of Wake’s 10 Conference games per new ACC schedule so they still have a plus one game to announce.
But, here’s the potential downfall. Any game will not be played anywhere near stadium capacity. So, if the game happens, there will be very little chance of our fans in attendance.

Might be better to reschedule for another year in front of a packed stadium

Although, I would love for our seniors to have the chance at Wake.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by Yosef84 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:48 am

I was curious what the Wake fans were saying on their board, so I went over there. Most seem to think they will choose the App game as their OOC, but one person brought up a good point. They may try to reschedule that game to a future year when fans can be in attendance and opt for an easier "sure" win. Their conference schedule will include both ND and Clemson, so it's already a very tough schedule. We will see how it works out, assuming the season happens at all. That's no small assumption at this point.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by biggie » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:51 am

Those 2 factors may be the reason they push our game to another year (money for attendance and easier game in future).

Either way would hope an in-state ACC team gets us this year.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by WataugaMan » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:56 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:48 am
One person brought up a good point. They may try to reschedule that game to a future year when fans can be in attendance and opt for an easier "sure" win.
Therefore, forfeiting our game and surrendering The State Title to App. :lol:

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by Yosef84 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:59 am

biggie wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:51 am
Those 2 factors may be the reason they push our game to another year (money for attendance and easier game in future).

Either way would hope an in-state ACC team gets us this year.
I don't think they're assuming the App game would be easier in the future (although this year's team is loaded with Seniors). They were talking about getting an easier OOC game for this year because their conference schedule is so difficult.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:19 am

If Wake doesn’t play us this year it is because less money (attendance restrictions) and/or they want an easier opponent this year. If they are serious about winning ACC and a shot at CFP they need us on their schedule.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:34 am

I think the only thing that allows them NOT to play App, if they choose, is that our game with them is scheduled for the 11th and the ACC won't allow any games before the 12th. So from a technical sense, that game would not be allowed under their conferences rules. If the game was on the 12th, I don't believe that there would be anyway they could get out of the deal, but I haven't actually read the contract so who knows what provisions may apply. We are currently their best OOC game and our game date essentially fits their schedule and the ACC rules as the other OOC games were either away (at ODU) or before the 12th as well. My best guess is they keep us on the schedule and move the game to Saturday, makes life much easier on the entire logistics staff of their football team.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by NavyApp » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:40 am

AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:19 am
If Wake doesn’t play us this year it is because less money (attendance restrictions) and/or they want an easier opponent this year. If they are serious about winning ACC and a shot at CFP they need us on their schedule.
They know they have no shot at the CFP or the ACC Atlantic for that matter. I fully expect them to dodge us this year.
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:57 am

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:34 am
I think the only thing that allows them NOT to play App, if they choose, is that our game with them is scheduled for the 11th and the ACC won't allow any games before the 12th. So from a technical sense, that game would not be allowed under their conferences rules. If the game was on the 12th, I don't believe that there would be anyway they could get out of the deal, but I haven't actually read the contract so who knows what provisions may apply. We are currently their best OOC game and our game date essentially fits their schedule and the ACC rules as the other OOC games were either away (at ODU) or before the 12th as well. My best guess is they keep us on the schedule and move the game to Saturday, makes life much easier on the entire logistics staff of their football team.
The article I read said during the week of July 7th-12th, so we would fall into that time frame

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by ah59396 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 am

Call me crazy but if it’s an either/or situation, I’d actually prefer we push the game to a year when our fans could go.

Part of the draw of playing Wake is the fact that our fans both can go to the games in Boone and Winston and pack them out.
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 am

BUTCH1991 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:57 am
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:34 am
I think the only thing that allows them NOT to play App, if they choose, is that our game with them is scheduled for the 11th and the ACC won't allow any games before the 12th. So from a technical sense, that game would not be allowed under their conferences rules. If the game was on the 12th, I don't believe that there would be anyway they could get out of the deal, but I haven't actually read the contract so who knows what provisions may apply. We are currently their best OOC game and our game date essentially fits their schedule and the ACC rules as the other OOC games were either away (at ODU) or before the 12th as well. My best guess is they keep us on the schedule and move the game to Saturday, makes life much easier on the entire logistics staff of their football team.
The article I read said during the week of July 7th-12th, so we would fall into that time frame
If that is the case, I don't see how they could get out of our contracted game because it meets all the requirements that the ACC has imposed on the member schools.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:50 am

I would consider rescheduling provided a four game home-and-home series was a part of the deal.
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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by Yosef84 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:02 am

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 am
BUTCH1991 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:57 am
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:34 am
I think the only thing that allows them NOT to play App, if they choose, is that our game with them is scheduled for the 11th and the ACC won't allow any games before the 12th. So from a technical sense, that game would not be allowed under their conferences rules. If the game was on the 12th, I don't believe that there would be anyway they could get out of the deal, but I haven't actually read the contract so who knows what provisions may apply. We are currently their best OOC game and our game date essentially fits their schedule and the ACC rules as the other OOC games were either away (at ODU) or before the 12th as well. My best guess is they keep us on the schedule and move the game to Saturday, makes life much easier on the entire logistics staff of their football team.
The article I read said during the week of July 7th-12th, so we would fall into that time frame
If that is the case, I don't see how they could get out of our contracted game because it meets all the requirements that the ACC has imposed on the member schools.
I would think that they could get out of our contracted game by renegotiating a future date. App would likely be agreeable, especially if additional games were included in the deal or other in-state opponents for this year became available and open to a game.

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Re: ACC announces 10 game conference schedule with one game allowed out of conference

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:38 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:02 am
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 am
BUTCH1991 wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:57 am
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:34 am
I think the only thing that allows them NOT to play App, if they choose, is that our game with them is scheduled for the 11th and the ACC won't allow any games before the 12th. So from a technical sense, that game would not be allowed under their conferences rules. If the game was on the 12th, I don't believe that there would be anyway they could get out of the deal, but I haven't actually read the contract so who knows what provisions may apply. We are currently their best OOC game and our game date essentially fits their schedule and the ACC rules as the other OOC games were either away (at ODU) or before the 12th as well. My best guess is they keep us on the schedule and move the game to Saturday, makes life much easier on the entire logistics staff of their football team.
The article I read said during the week of July 7th-12th, so we would fall into that time frame
If that is the case, I don't see how they could get out of our contracted game because it meets all the requirements that the ACC has imposed on the member schools.
I would think that they could get out of our contracted game by renegotiating a future date. App would likely be agreeable, especially if additional games were included in the deal or other in-state opponents for this year became available and open to a game.
Yes, they can get out if we let them get out. But considering we don't have another current P5 game to showcase our team this year, I am not sure why we would want to let them out. We need P5 wins to make our case for a NY6 bowl.

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