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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:47 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:33 pm
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Kanye Roberts is ready to play.
Crazy thought but with our injuries could some of our 2022 class signings like him that supposedly look good in practice be able to play the next 3 games to give our dinged up players a rest and still have games we should be able to win without them? We really need them back in 4-5 weeks coming off the bye week. I'm sure if Noel, Cobb, Wells, etc sat out 3 games they would be well rested for CCU.
You could but does that really address the issues concerning communication? A lot of our issues are new guys working together for the first time. I could certainly see guys like Gooch and Burkes seeing the field to give some guys some rest. I’m just not sure that’s the best remedy to correct the issues.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:59 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:58 pm
Kanye Roberts is ready to play.
Crazy thought but with our injuries could some of our 2022 class signings like him that supposedly look good in practice be able to play the next 3 games to give our dinged up players a rest and still have games we should be able to win without them? We really need them back in 4-5 weeks coming off the bye week. I'm sure if Noel, Cobb, Wells, etc sat out 3 games they would be well rested for CCU.
You could but does that really address the issues concerning communication? A lot of our issues are new guys working together for the first time. I could certainly see guys like Gooch and Burkes seeing the field to give some guys some rest. I’m just not sure that’s the best remedy to correct the issues.
My post was completely about injuries. Gooch, Roberts, Burks, and several others I had in mind that could see the field to help us rest some guys before the brutal gauntlet in November.

As far as communication, it would not fix those issues but trying others might see one of them thrive and possibly help Clarke Ross Dawson improve their game by seeing others in there as well.

Do you remember the Mike Smith/Corey Lynch situation back in early 2000s? We trotted out Smith against Hawaii and I believe he gave up 2 or 3 TDs so they ended up benching him. Corey took the job over and never looked back. Until a player gets in a game we don't truly know what we have. I would be interested to see how well they do.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:41 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:59 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:58 pm
Kanye Roberts is ready to play.
Crazy thought but with our injuries could some of our 2022 class signings like him that supposedly look good in practice be able to play the next 3 games to give our dinged up players a rest and still have games we should be able to win without them? We really need them back in 4-5 weeks coming off the bye week. I'm sure if Noel, Cobb, Wells, etc sat out 3 games they would be well rested for CCU.
You could but does that really address the issues concerning communication? A lot of our issues are new guys working together for the first time. I could certainly see guys like Gooch and Burkes seeing the field to give some guys some rest. I’m just not sure that’s the best remedy to correct the issues.
My post was completely about injuries. Gooch, Roberts, Burks, and several others I had in mind that could see the field to help us rest some guys before the brutal gauntlet in November.

As far as communication, it would not fix those issues but trying others might see one of them thrive and possibly help Clarke Ross Dawson improve their game by seeing others in there as well.

Do you remember the Mike Smith/Corey Lynch situation back in early 2000s? We trotted out Smith against Hawaii and I believe he gave up 2 or 3 TDs so they ended up benching him. Corey took the job over and never looked back. Until a player gets in a game we don't truly know what we have. I would be interested to see how well they do.
Dismissing what you were saying wasn’t my intention. I mentioned Gooch and Burks, and adding Favors to that group were names that are ready to step up and give it a try.

Certain players that underperformed Saturday have performed well in the past. A lot of what happened Saturday is correctable. With both Harrington and Cobb out, it seemed like we were hanging on, much like that three game stretch when Stringer was out a few years back.

My point with the communication issue is that the core group is still learning to play together. As for Robert’s on offense, They probably have a plan for him this season. Whether or not that plan includes playing him to give guys a break, who knows. We still have Castle that can take some reps as well.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:12 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:41 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:59 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:58 pm
Kanye Roberts is ready to play.
Crazy thought but with our injuries could some of our 2022 class signings like him that supposedly look good in practice be able to play the next 3 games to give our dinged up players a rest and still have games we should be able to win without them? We really need them back in 4-5 weeks coming off the bye week. I'm sure if Noel, Cobb, Wells, etc sat out 3 games they would be well rested for CCU.
You could but does that really address the issues concerning communication? A lot of our issues are new guys working together for the first time. I could certainly see guys like Gooch and Burkes seeing the field to give some guys some rest. I’m just not sure that’s the best remedy to correct the issues.
My post was completely about injuries. Gooch, Roberts, Burks, and several others I had in mind that could see the field to help us rest some guys before the brutal gauntlet in November.

As far as communication, it would not fix those issues but trying others might see one of them thrive and possibly help Clarke Ross Dawson improve their game by seeing others in there as well.

Do you remember the Mike Smith/Corey Lynch situation back in early 2000s? We trotted out Smith against Hawaii and I believe he gave up 2 or 3 TDs so they ended up benching him. Corey took the job over and never looked back. Until a player gets in a game we don't truly know what we have. I would be interested to see how well they do.
Dismissing what you were saying wasn’t my intention. I mentioned Gooch and Burks, and adding Favors to that group were names that are ready to step up and give it a try.

Certain players that underperformed Saturday have performed well in the past. A lot of what happened Saturday is correctable. With both Harrington and Cobb out, it seemed like we were hanging on, much like that three game stretch when Stringer was out a few years back.

My point with the communication issue is that the core group is still learning to play together. As for Robert’s on offense, They probably have a plan for him this season. Whether or not that plan includes playing him to give guys a break, who knows. We still have Castle that can take some reps as well.
I’m sure they 100% want to redshirt Roberts but even with Castle it would be good to see Roberts in a couple games.

We have to fix communication for sure because JMU, Coastal, Marshall, and even ODU or GSU will beat us if we don’t.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppState89 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:19 am

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Also we missed Brendan Harrington yesterday
I thought he was out for the year??
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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:21 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:31 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:23 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:21 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:48 pm
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Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:48 am
Noel was out, Harrington and Peoples apparently get banged up. Any updates?
#9 WR Christian Wells went down with a lower body issue late 3rd or early 4th and was unable to return. He had to be helped off the field. Our Docs took him to the tent for an exam. He came out retaped and tried to run, but pulled up after two or three steps. They took him to the FH and I don't think he came out. Bad.

Also, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney? He had the build-up of an emerging impact receiver. I'm not certain he's been targeted by Brice yet. I'm not certain he's ever been in a game.
Who built him up as such? I haven’t seen him built up as a “stud” or in emerging impact player anywhere but on this message board.
;) Guess I didn't make my "tongue-in-cheek" post apparent enough. And you're right. The only places I've ever seen the young man's name are here on the MMB and on the roster. I don't recall who posted the info about his transfer or exactly when but it was probably 18 months ago or more. I do recall info listed at that time about his raw speed and his size as a WR candidate...and a post or two from MMBers concerning some nagging injury from his VT days that supposedly continues to hold his progression back.

The injury bug could quickly make us extremely thin in the WR room. We have 12 or so guys on the roster listed as WRs and maybe only six or seven are in the current rotation. I'm not confident any of the others are ready for the "next man up" philosophy. Wells' availability next week is a ? mark. There was a brief on-air mention yesterday that Stroman was playing with some "discomfort." Those two just came to light. I realize that Brice consciously spreads the ball around as much as possible but if the rotation loses a couple of kids, it could pose problems for putting guys on the field who know the playbook, can run their routes, can get open, can take the hits and still make catches.
The actual question was never answered..lso, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney?.
I have no clue..now inquiring minds want to know ..😂
It is mind boggling that no one has mentioned our highest ranked recruit ever in the 20 months he's been on campus.
"Oh we don't care about stars or rankings...blah blah blah".

Would be great to know why a 4* from Dorman High (excellent football school) and VT (power 5) can't break a depth chart of 8 wide receivers.
I have heard his injury plagued him and that he's just getting beat out now by others. I would love to see him on the field, but at this point, probably not going to happen.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:26 am

oh shit - looks like we are going to lose 5 more games :roll: :?: :?: :?:
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Unread post by biggie » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:26 am

Clark just said Cobb back this week and Peoples is fine.

Wells will see dr today but has been walking around.

No other details on the conf today.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by Appst86 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:36 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:31 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:23 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:21 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:48 pm
Rekdiver wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:48 am
Noel was out, Harrington and Peoples apparently get banged up. Any updates?
#9 WR Christian Wells went down with a lower body issue late 3rd or early 4th and was unable to return. He had to be helped off the field. Our Docs took him to the tent for an exam. He came out retaped and tried to run, but pulled up after two or three steps. They took him to the FH and I don't think he came out. Bad.

Also, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney? He had the build-up of an emerging impact receiver. I'm not certain he's been targeted by Brice yet. I'm not certain he's ever been in a game.
Who built him up as such? I haven’t seen him built up as a “stud” or in emerging impact player anywhere but on this message board.
;) Guess I didn't make my "tongue-in-cheek" post apparent enough. And you're right. The only places I've ever seen the young man's name are here on the MMB and on the roster. I don't recall who posted the info about his transfer or exactly when but it was probably 18 months ago or more. I do recall info listed at that time about his raw speed and his size as a WR candidate...and a post or two from MMBers concerning some nagging injury from his VT days that supposedly continues to hold his progression back.

The injury bug could quickly make us extremely thin in the WR room. We have 12 or so guys on the roster listed as WRs and maybe only six or seven are in the current rotation. I'm not confident any of the others are ready for the "next man up" philosophy. Wells' availability next week is a ? mark. There was a brief on-air mention yesterday that Stroman was playing with some "discomfort." Those two just came to light. I realize that Brice consciously spreads the ball around as much as possible but if the rotation loses a couple of kids, it could pose problems for putting guys on the field who know the playbook, can run their routes, can get open, can take the hits and still make catches.
The actual question was never answered..lso, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney?.
I have no clue..now inquiring minds want to know ..😂
To my knowledge, Pinkney is the only 4* recruit on our roster and has never played a down. I too, would like to know the story.

https://247sports.com/player/jacoby-pinckney-93575/

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppOrange » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:39 am

biggie wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:26 am
Clark just said Cobb back this week and Peoples is fine.

Wells will see dr today but has been walking around.

No other details on the conf today.
This type of post is why the original question was asked. Not everyone can watch the pressers and these summaries are very helpful. I also understand not letting the cat out of the bag around injuries, but there are some folks on here connected and any info we get is helpful to my mental state and expectations for the next game. I do realize my mental state regarding these matters does not supersede us giving out intel that could be detrimental to winning, but I'm nosy and still like to know . . . hey, when your invested your invested.
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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:47 am

AppOrange wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:39 am
biggie wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:26 am
Clark just said Cobb back this week and Peoples is fine.

Wells will see dr today but has been walking around.

No other details on the conf today.
This type of post is why the original question was asked. Not everyone can watch the pressers and these summaries are very helpful. I also understand not letting the cat out of the bag around injuries, but there are some folks on here connected and any info we get is helpful to my mental state and expectations for the next game. I do realize my mental state regarding these matters does not supersede us giving out intel that could be detrimental to winning, but I'm nosy and still like to know . . . hey, when your invested your invested.
There are people here that are connected but giving out certain information on here could get them disconnected in a hurry. I’ve learned to take Clark’s comments with a grain of salt when it comes to injuries.

I know that people get tired of hearing some press conference attendees long, drawn out questions, but there is a reason for it. The interviewer knows Shawn well enough to know what he is going to get from Clark if he doesn’t lead him a lot.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:54 am

311neers wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:21 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:31 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:23 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:21 pm
asu66 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:48 pm


#9 WR Christian Wells went down with a lower body issue late 3rd or early 4th and was unable to return. He had to be helped off the field. Our Docs took him to the tent for an exam. He came out retaped and tried to run, but pulled up after two or three steps. They took him to the FH and I don't think he came out. Bad.

Also, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney? He had the build-up of an emerging impact receiver. I'm not certain he's been targeted by Brice yet. I'm not certain he's ever been in a game.
Who built him up as such? I haven’t seen him built up as a “stud” or in emerging impact player anywhere but on this message board.
;) Guess I didn't make my "tongue-in-cheek" post apparent enough. And you're right. The only places I've ever seen the young man's name are here on the MMB and on the roster. I don't recall who posted the info about his transfer or exactly when but it was probably 18 months ago or more. I do recall info listed at that time about his raw speed and his size as a WR candidate...and a post or two from MMBers concerning some nagging injury from his VT days that supposedly continues to hold his progression back.

The injury bug could quickly make us extremely thin in the WR room. We have 12 or so guys on the roster listed as WRs and maybe only six or seven are in the current rotation. I'm not confident any of the others are ready for the "next man up" philosophy. Wells' availability next week is a ? mark. There was a brief on-air mention yesterday that Stroman was playing with some "discomfort." Those two just came to light. I realize that Brice consciously spreads the ball around as much as possible but if the rotation loses a couple of kids, it could pose problems for putting guys on the field who know the playbook, can run their routes, can get open, can take the hits and still make catches.
The actual question was never answered..lso, what's the story on the VT transfer WR #8 Jacoby Pinckney?.
I have no clue..now inquiring minds want to know ..😂
It is mind boggling that no one has mentioned our highest ranked recruit ever in the 20 months he's been on campus.
"Oh we don't care about stars or rankings...blah blah blah".

Would be great to know why a 4* from Dorman High (excellent football school) and VT (power 5) can't break a depth chart of 8 wide receivers.
I have heard his injury plagued him and that he's just getting beat out now by others. I would love to see him on the field, but at this point, probably not going to happen.
That's about what I've inferred. Sounds like he just doesn't have it.

Not sure who was higher-ranked, but I believe Tacoi Sumler was also originally a 4* recruit and transferred from Oregon, and he also never made much of an impact.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by biggie » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:57 am

AppOrange wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:39 am
biggie wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:26 am
Clark just said Cobb back this week and Peoples is fine.

Wells will see dr today but has been walking around.

No other details on the conf today.
This type of post is why the original question was asked. Not everyone can watch the pressers and these summaries are very helpful. I also understand not letting the cat out of the bag around injuries, but there are some folks on here connected and any info we get is helpful to my mental state and expectations for the next game. I do realize my mental state regarding these matters does not supersede us giving out intel that could be detrimental to winning, but I'm nosy and still like to know . . . hey, when your invested your invested.
I'm sure he's staying quiet on certain people. Didn't mention LB Harrington or Noel.

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:05 pm

Wasn't Chase a 4* out of high school?

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:14 pm

Rick83 wrote:
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Wasn't Chase a 4* out of high school?
No. High 3.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:27 pm

biggie wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:26 am
Clark just said Cobb back this week and Peoples is fine.

Wells will see dr today but has been walking around.

No other details on the conf today.
Translation- none of them will play this Saturday

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Re: Player Injuries

Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:35 pm

Happened to see a show once involving how Vegas oddsmaking, QBs were worth about 7 - 8 points most any other key offensive back or receiver starter is worth 1 - 2 points. For what that is worth?

I'd guess in APPs case only offensive player that could fip us would be missing Brice since we are equally strong in the Backs and Receivers several deep, If Brice were out the JMU game, the line may be a Pick?
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