Returning production

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by 311neers » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:19 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
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I know of no team who has any "guaranteed wins" on the schedule -
Not anymore. We were in that category a couple years ago. Georgia would like a word though.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:51 pm

"Returning production" probably does mean less than before the portal as you basically build a roster one year at a time now.I did find the article interesting though.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by Yosef84 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:00 pm

I realize I'm an eternal optimist or a "sunshine squad" type fan (in the opinion of some) but this metric, although disturbing at first glance, just doesn't mean much in terms of predicting 2023. In the first place, it's only half of the issue. It doesn't account for what is waiting in the wings. It also doesn't account for other factors like style of play, change in coaching personnel, and the expected (or possible) changes in the works. App relied more heavily on the passing game that we generally do, so losing QB1 is HUGE. We also lost some RB talent but we have a room full of RB talent and I don't see any drop at all. We also have a at least two...probably three viable QBs on the roster. WR room is loaded. On the defensive side, we have holes to replace but we have burned up the portal and are bringing Sloan home, so there is reason for some optimism there.

I would still like to see some OL studs brought in but I expect that to happen. I hope so at least. I think we have talent on the OL but need more depth and experience.

This off-season articles and rankings are really just click bait and fodder for message boards.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppState89 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:40 pm

GW has a good team, but there is no way in hell they will beat us!!! We have better talent and better coaches. I'm sure the guys are pissed at this past season and they have something to prove this season. Bet we surprise a lot of people they season, even ones on this board. Go App!!!
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:12 pm

311neers wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:58 pm
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pop5app wrote:
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Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am


When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..
A short 2 years ago we were in the driver seat, along with Cincy, Boise, SDSU, to be the Georgia of the G5 (just steamroll everyone by 30 no matter who it is)...now we dont have a guaranteed win on the schedule? Guess that's why they play the game. If we go .500 or less, fan base will lose it's mind, rightfully so. This board has tamed my expectations alot which is probably a good thing.
Actually in 2019, we won by an average of 18 points per game not 30 points. I do realize you were just making a point, and a valid one. However, we weren't quite that dominant.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:14 pm

It’s also important to understand that the 2019 defense was comprised of DeMarco Jackson, Shawn Jolly, Demetrius Taylor, Akeem Davis Gaither, and Shemar Jean Charles. All of which are in the NFL now.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:59 pm

311neers wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:58 pm
boonetown1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:35 am
pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am


When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..
A short 2 years ago we were in the driver seat, along with Cincy, Boise, SDSU, to be the Georgia of the G5 (just steamroll everyone by 30 no matter who it is)...now we dont have a guaranteed win on the schedule? Guess that's why they play the game. If we go .500 or less, fan base will lose it's mind, rightfully so. This board has tamed my expectations alot which is probably a good thing.
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:24 pm

pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
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anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
Even though changes and lack of production returning say we should struggle I think coaching was a big problem so I feel better about it. We also needed to upgrade talent in some areas and I think we did. I don’t expect 8+ but I believe we should go 6-6 or 7-5, which is better than we should on paper. I could see some magazines picking us to only win 3-4 games.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by CornCobPipes » Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:54 pm

There WILL BE empty seats at home next year....that you can bet with this economy and the increases.
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppStateNews » Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:56 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:59 pm
311neers wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:58 pm
boonetown1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:35 am
pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am


yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..
A short 2 years ago we were in the driver seat, along with Cincy, Boise, SDSU, to be the Georgia of the G5 (just steamroll everyone by 30 no matter who it is)...now we dont have a guaranteed win on the schedule? Guess that's why they play the game. If we go .500 or less, fan base will lose it's mind, rightfully so. This board has tamed my expectations alot which is probably a good thing.
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:44 pm

Speaking of returning, do we know if Harrington and Cobb are returning for 2023? Do we have an updated roster with all returning? All I can find still includes Brice, Cam, Hampton, Jones, etc

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:46 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
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Speaking of returning, do we know if Harrington and Cobb are returning for 2023? Do we have an updated roster with all returning? All I can find still includes Brice, Cam, Hampton, Jones, etc
Cobb has zero eligibility left. Harrington may come back. He is working to get back based on video but nothing is definitive yet.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:47 pm

Harrington is going to give it a try, fall camp should be the indicator if he can go, but Cobb has exhausted his eligibility and is done.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:58 pm

What about any updated roster? I'm with Natty as all I can find is last seasons -
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by appst89 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:20 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
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What about any updated roster? I'm with Natty as all I can find is last seasons -
You have to give at a higher level to be able to see a current roster.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:10 pm

appst89 wrote:
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What about any updated roster? I'm with Natty as all I can find is last seasons -
You have to give at a higher level to be able to see a current roster.
I give to God and I don’t see it.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppStateNews » Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:21 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
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What about any updated roster? I'm with Natty as all I can find is last seasons -
The updated roster will be up closer to the start of spring ball. Still some moving pieces.

As of right now, Harrington is still on the roster giving it a shot. It's a matter of how his body responds and how much pain he wants to endure in the future.
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:38 am

Updated

Gone:
Brice
Peoples
Hampton
Hodges
Pearson
Lawson Sr
Harrington
Jones
Cobb
Wells
Page
Bird
Hardy

Uncertain return:
Harrington
Earle
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Re: Returning production

Unread post by appstate24 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:54 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:38 am
Please feel free to correct any errors.

Gone:
Brice
Peoples
Hampton
Hodges?
Pearson
Lawson Sr
Harrington
Jones
Cobb
Wells
Page
Bird

Returning that may have been in question:
Noel
Roberts
Harrington

Do Gibbs, Hardy and Earle have one more year of eligibility?
Pretty sure Hardy is gone. Would LOVE to have big Earle back, haven’t heard anything about him, so not sure if he’s back or not.

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Re: Returning production

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:01 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:38 am
Please feel free to correct any errors.

Gone:
Brice
Peoples
Hampton
Hodges?
Pearson
Lawson Sr
Harrington
Jones
Cobb
Wells
Page
Bird

Returning that may have been in question:
Noel
Roberts
Harrington

Do Gibbs, Hardy and Earle have one more year of eligibility?
Hodges and Hardy are gone. Gibbs is coming back. Earle is I believe gone based on what I can glean from conversations. The only one in question of your three questionable is Harrington.

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