App State briefly mentioned in realignment shuffle

[AppSt94]

I’m pretty sure recalling that the town’s infrastructure was a mark against an invite last time. That hasn’t really changed.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Our side of the Belt is a great conference. Add Charlotte, ECU and Memphis for a regional 10 team league and play 9 football conference games and 18 basketball games. Solid baseball schools remain. Nearly all of the travel can be by bus. Who really cares if Stink goes away? If it matters play each other for non-conference. Then play one P5 and maybe a regional FCS. Either the top 2 for the CCG or kill it altogether and hope the champ is the highest rated G5.

[Stonewall]

ECU had an offer to join the Belt if they would have taken it , we had an offer from AAC , same - if we would have taken it , back when the conferences both expanded last.As I understand.We like where we are , as things stand today.

[canes_mj]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

[ASUFan4863]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

[AppSt94]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

If that’s your lone criteria, I would agree with your opinion. It’s just not that simple.

[spacemonkey]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

I don't think this is accurate. The old schools make that much the new schools are closer to 2 million. Someone chime in that knows. OLD AAC...ie ECU 7-8 million. New AAC ie Charlotte 2 million with more travel costs.

[AppStateNews]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

I don't think this is accurate. The old schools make that much the new schools are closer to 2 million. Someone chime in that knows. OLD AAC...ie ECU 7-8 million. New AAC ie Charlotte 2 million with more travel costs.

That's correct. Old schools are still getting the top dollar (and performance based incentives). New schools are near 3 mil. Sun Belt is between 2 and 2.5 mil but significantly less travel costs so it's pretty much the same bottom line.

[t4pizza]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

I could not disagree more with your position. That is just not enough extra money to go to a conference that frankly is not as strong in football. Next year the top G5 teams gets into the 12 team playoff, a large part of that extra money will be made up when Sun Belt teams consistently make the playoff. Then add in the travel savings and the difference just won't be that much. There is no upside to joining other than maybe money. Sure, we get ECU as a conference mate but we play them regularly as it is so that really doesn't move the needle for me. I would rather have our close regional rivalries with the Sun Belt east teams than what the AAC offers. It may be different if the 4 schools had not left but they have and they took the AAC football strength with them. No interest in joining the AAC at all.

[AtlAppMan]

Can't find it in any searches now.....what is the per team/school yearly payout for the AAC and the Sunbelt?

Roughly $7-8m to AAC and $2-3m to SBC. If we were given the AAC payout immediately and could bring 2 additional top tier SBC schools - it is a NO BRAINER.

I don't think this is accurate. The old schools make that much the new schools are closer to 2 million. Someone chime in that knows. OLD AAC...ie ECU 7-8 million. New AAC ie Charlotte 2 million with more travel costs.

That's correct. Old schools are still getting the top dollar (and performance based incentives). New schools are near 3 mil. Sun Belt is between 2 and 2.5 mil but significantly less travel costs so it's pretty much the same bottom line.

I cannot see any way the current AAC will earn any more than SBC when their current TV contract expires. If so old CUSA would have been able to get that deal. They couldn’t even get a decent ESPN contract.

Once that hits the SBC will unquestionably surpass the AAC. In the meantime we need to keep beating them OOC on the field.

[Stonewall]

It appears that the Sunbelt is on an upward trajectory , in my eyes , and the AAC, I'm of the opinion , is treading water. Frankly I like the regionalism, the natural and established rivalries.I don't like where it seems college athletics is heading , trying to savor what we have today.

[yosef95]

App is so unique in that it's a great road game for opponent fans. I mean trip to see their team play in Boone/mountains seems like a more enjoyable destination that Greenville, S Miss, Marshall etc. I know App/Boone isnt a huge city/tv market, but most of their alumni base is in Charlotte/ Raleigh etc, so it's still a draw

[AppSt94]

Living in Charlotte, I can reasonably get to all the East Division schools and Troy. In the AAC, I could get to Charlotte, ECU, Navy and UAB with ease. Longer trips but doable, Arkansas St., ULM, Southern Miss, and South Alabama would ne similar to Memphis and USF.

[moonshine]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

[Howard Street Hooligan]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

Tulane, UAB, Memphis, USF, Temple, ECU and Charlotte would bring me a little more excitement to watch App go up against. Louisana has been good but Georgia State(they're stadium is as quiet as a funeral) and all the teams in the West except Southern Miss do nothing for me.

[AppSt94]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

Tulane, UAB, Memphis, USF, Temple, ECU and Charlotte would bring me a little more excitement to watch App go up against. Louisana has been good but Georgia State(they're stadium is as quiet as a funeral) and all the teams in the West except Southern Miss do nothing for me.

I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but how many of those AAC opponents would you travel to see App play?

[Howard Street Hooligan]

It appears that the Sunbelt is on an upward trajectory , in my eyes , and the AAC, I'm of the opinion , is treading water. Frankly I like the regionalism, the natural and established rivalries.I don't like where it seems college athletics is heading , trying to savor what we have today.

Yeah, i'll never understand why/how market size can be used against a school like App when most the alumni move to bigger cities.

[goapps93]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

Tulane, UAB, Memphis, USF, Temple, ECU and Charlotte would bring me a little more excitement to watch App go up against. Louisana has been good but Georgia State(they're stadium is as quiet as a funeral) and all the teams in the West except Southern Miss do nothing for me.

I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but how many of those AAC opponents would you travel to see App play?

Can’t speak for Hooligan, but I would go to ECU and Charlotte often. I would go to the others at least once, maybe every time. I don’t have much desire to go to any of our SBC opponents. Philly, New Orleans, Memphis, and Tampa are all cool destinations. I’m not sure I want us to move but I wouldn’t be disappointed.

[Howard Street Hooligan]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

Tulane, UAB, Memphis, USF, Temple, ECU and Charlotte would bring me a little more excitement to watch App go up against. Louisana has been good but Georgia State(they're stadium is as quiet as a funeral) and all the teams in the West except Southern Miss do nothing for me.

I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but how many of those AAC opponents would you travel to see App play?

I'd go to all those games. every year? no mainly because i'm in a very busy part of my life with two very young kids. I'd travel at least to those once in a while where as I have zero interest in EVER going to Louisana Monroe, Texas State, Troy, Ark State, South Alabama, Louisana and Georgia State.

[AppSt94]

Dodd accomplished what he set out to do, get clicks. I can’t imagine Aresco is going to change course on his markets and high budget strategy for the AAC. I’d imagine ODU, GaSt and TXST would get the nod from the SBC before App based on the AAC’s previous selections.

As someone else stated, ECU is the only program our fans really want to play regularly from the AAC followed by maybe Navy and UNCC. I believe an ECU fan posted they spend over $6m in travel compared to around $4.5m for App. Without receiving a full payout the “old” AAC teams are earning, it doesn’t seem to make financial sense after exit/entry fees to essentially play 1 team our fan base is interested in when we can schedule them (and UNCC) for free in OOC. Also, what guarantee does App have that ECU won’t leave the AAC for “greener pastures” like they did to UNCC back in CUSA? Then App is stuck, with essentially no rivals compared to what we currently have built in the SBC, in a far flung conference of teams looking to leave and our student-athletes (remember them?) miss more class time traveling to play Tulsa, Temple and NT.

As much as we may all want it to happen and they’d be a great fit in the Sun bEast, I highly doubt we’ll see ECU leave the AAC for the SBC anytime soon. It would not make sense for the Pirates to pay the exit fee to a conference with a $100+m war chest they’ve accumulated from the vacating programs to move to a poorer SBC. Now once the AAC goes back to the negotiating table with the mouse and their payout drops significantly, as many are predicting, then maybe a move for ECU will be financially prudent. However, with the American’s growing assets, the conference can soften the blow of a lower tv payout for member institutions for a quite a while.

With all that said, I won’t call the SBC App’s forever home but without an imminent P2/4/5 invite, the current SB East is about as perfect a conference division our fans could’ve imagined 10 years ago sans ECU. We are with our peers and most historical rivals, all within driving distance for the majority of our fans, the way college football was meant to be!

Tulane, UAB, Memphis, USF, Temple, ECU and Charlotte would bring me a little more excitement to watch App go up against. Louisana has been good but Georgia State(they're stadium is as quiet as a funeral) and all the teams in the West except Southern Miss do nothing for me.

I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but how many of those AAC opponents would you travel to see App play?

I'd go to all those games. every year? no mainly because i'm in a very busy part of my life with two very young kids. I'd travel at least to those once in a while where as I have zero interest in EVER going to Louisana Monroe, Texas State, Troy, Ark State, South Alabama, Louisana and Georgia State.

That’s fair.