Oregon NIL and an App fan promise

[AppStFan1]

I bet they still don’t win one.

Agreed. If money was 100% the way to win and nothing else mattered then we don’t beat Michigan, SC, UNC, A&M, and don’t even play Tenn, Penn State, etc close.

[AppWyo]

I bet they still don’t win one.

Agreed. If money was 100% the way to win and nothing else mattered then we don’t beat Michigan, SC, UNC, A&M, and don’t even play Tenn, Penn State, etc close.

Some say that Appalachian should never play those teams in the first place, because App cannot compete with those schools.

I really think that Appalachian is in a great position to be competitive, because recruits can come to schools like Appalachian when they are passed by the programs with more money to improve there stock for a few years at App and then enter the transfer portal to get picked up by those schools. The same is true of the players that are at those programs with more money and it does not work out for them and they enter the transfer portal and get picked up by schools like Appalachian and Appalachian is the bigger winner in the end with talent and most importantly wins and conference championships and the occasional playoff appearance.

We are as App Fans entering the next golden age of Appalachian Football.

[AppStFan1]

I bet they still don’t win one.

Agreed. If money was 100% the way to win and nothing else mattered then we don’t beat Michigan, SC, UNC, A&M, and don’t even play Tenn, Penn State, etc close.

Some say that Appalachian should never play those teams in the first place, because App cannot compete with those schools.

I really think that Appalachian is in a great position to be competitive, because recruits can come to a schools like Appalachian when they are passed by the programs with more money to improve there stock for a few years at App and then enter the transfer portal to get picked up by those schools. The same is true of the players that are at those programs with more money and it does not work out for them and they enter the transfer portal and get picked up by schools like Appalachian and Appalachian is the bigger winner in the end with talent and most importantly wins and conference championships and the occasional playoff appearance.

We are as App Fans entering the next golden age of Appalachian Football.

If we listened to those who don't want to play those games because we can't compete with money then we never would have beat Michigan, SC, UNC, Texas A&M, etc. I think we have to play big programs because while we risk getting beat by 20+ we also have a chance to pull a huge upset and that is big for the program when we win those games. I also think with the playoff it helps to play those games to give us a gauge of where we are to know where we might stand.

[AppWyo]

I bet they still don’t win one.

Agreed. If money was 100% the way to win and nothing else mattered then we don’t beat Michigan, SC, UNC, A&M, and don’t even play Tenn, Penn State, etc close.

Some say that Appalachian should never play those teams in the first place, because App cannot compete with those schools.

I really think that Appalachian is in a great position to be competitive, because recruits can come to a schools like Appalachian when they are passed by the programs with more money to improve there stock for a few years at App and then enter the transfer portal to get picked up by those schools. The same is true of the players that are at those programs with more money and it does not work out for them and they enter the transfer portal and get picked up by schools like Appalachian and Appalachian is the bigger winner in the end with talent and most importantly wins and conference championships and the occasional playoff appearance.

We are as App Fans entering the next golden age of Appalachian Football.

If we listened to those who don't want to play those games because we can't compete with money then we never would have beat Michigan, SC, UNC, Texas A&M, etc. I think we have to play big programs because while we risk getting beat by 20+ we also have a chance to pull a huge upset and that is big for the program when we win those games. I also think with the playoff it helps to play those games to give us a gauge of where we are to know where we might stand.

I believe that is the biggest fear the non-autonomous schools face is being left out in the future of college football.

I believe that is why automatic bids are so important to sustain all conferences and give everyone a chance at greatness.

Just like the day before the first game is played, everyone is undefeated, the day after the first game is played just half the teams are undefeated.

Automatic bids for every conference will allow winning the conference to be the most important goal every season. This way your season is not over with one loss.

If that were the case Appalachian would never have had a chance to win the 2007 National Championship.

[AppStFan1]

I bet they still don’t win one.

Agreed. If money was 100% the way to win and nothing else mattered then we don’t beat Michigan, SC, UNC, A&M, and don’t even play Tenn, Penn State, etc close.

Some say that Appalachian should never play those teams in the first place, because App cannot compete with those schools.

I really think that Appalachian is in a great position to be competitive, because recruits can come to a schools like Appalachian when they are passed by the programs with more money to improve there stock for a few years at App and then enter the transfer portal to get picked up by those schools. The same is true of the players that are at those programs with more money and it does not work out for them and they enter the transfer portal and get picked up by schools like Appalachian and Appalachian is the bigger winner in the end with talent and most importantly wins and conference championships and the occasional playoff appearance.

We are as App Fans entering the next golden age of Appalachian Football.

If we listened to those who don't want to play those games because we can't compete with money then we never would have beat Michigan, SC, UNC, Texas A&M, etc. I think we have to play big programs because while we risk getting beat by 20+ we also have a chance to pull a huge upset and that is big for the program when we win those games. I also think with the playoff it helps to play those games to give us a gauge of where we are to know where we might stand.

I believe that is the biggest fear the non-autonomous schools face is being left out in the future of college football.

I believe that is why automatic bids are so important to sustain all conferences and give everyone a chance at greatness.

Just like the day before the first game is played, everyone is undefeated, the day after the first game is played just half the teams are undefeated.

Automatic bids for every conference will allow winning the conference to be the most important goal every season. This way your season is not over with one loss.

If that were the case Appalachian would never have had a chance to win the 2007 National Championship.

The P4 are not about to allow an auto-bid to all the G5 schools unless we expand to more than 16 teams I would think. Remember in 2007 we were defending champions coming from a power league in FCS that we were co-champs. When you got 12 or even 16 teams I don't think a co-champion of a top 3 league in any level would be left out. This would be like Florida State finishing 11-2 this year as co-champs of the ACC (if it were possible) and getting left out. If we had a co-champ of a top 3-4 league in FBS they would not be left out of this 12 team format.

[GreatAppSt]

Nike wear should be dumped by all teams not named Oregon at the end of any contracts, why would you support your on field foe in anyway? Hope it comes back to haunt em.

[AppWyo]

Nike wear should be dumped by all teams not named Oregon at the end of any contracts, why would you support your on field foe in anyway? Hope it comes back to haunt em.

Appalachian beat Michigan when it became a Nike School, hence the Watch Tower Commercial.
https://www.google.com/search?q=watch+t ... w3_EE,st:0

[BambooRdApp]

Nike wear should be dumped by all teams not named Oregon at the end of any contracts, why would you support your on field foe in anyway? Hope it comes back to haunt em.

That would mean all schools dump Under Armour as alumni is an UMD grad and gives substantial sums to UMD. Understand the sentiment...but not feasible...

[ASU84]

Nike wear should be dumped by all teams not named Oregon at the end of any contracts, why would you support your on field foe in anyway? Hope it comes back to haunt em.

That would mean all schools dump Under Armour as alumni is an UMD grad and gives substantial sums to UMD. Understand the sentiment...but not feasible...

Is the Under Armour CEO offering a blank check?

[AppSt94]

A question. Is Phil Knight offering Oregon out of his pocket or out of Nike revenue? I understand that he has made his money from his company. That doesn’t mean that Nike, as a company is funding Oregon’s NIL.

[BambooRdApp]

Nike wear should be dumped by all teams not named Oregon at the end of any contracts, why would you support your on field foe in anyway? Hope it comes back to haunt em.

That would mean all schools dump Under Armour as alumni is an UMD grad and gives substantial sums to UMD. Understand the sentiment...but not feasible...

Is the Under Armour CEO offering a blank check?

He could...just like Nike CEO.

[Bigdaddyg1]

So let’s say that “theoretically” Oregon targets the top 10 high school recruits and like 20 of the top rated college players (at other schools). Can all 30 of them academically qualify at Oregon? How much is actually written on that check before it’s beyond reasonable? Are those 30 young men suddenly millionaires? Are they all going to give a millionaire effort? You see examples all the time in pro sports of guys who got paid then sucked on the field/court. You can buy up to a certain point.

[GreatAppSt]

Phil Knight has openly declared a financial war on all other Division 1 programs. In war, you don't provide assistance to the enemy, and you never interrupt them while they are making a mistake. Dumping Knightke should be on every Nike sponsored Division 1 programs to do list. Other sports products out there are better anyway. Heck pitch Michael to come up the mountain and bring Jumpman with him.

[AppSt94]

Schools are paid by apparel companies, not the other way around. Jump man is still attached to Nike. The two likely options are Adidas or UA. UA is similar in terms of they are owned by a Maryland Alum. No thanks to Adidas.

[704App]

Nike is by far and away the best football gear. Ethics and practices are a different story.

Nike pays us to wear the gear because it's a marketing tool for them. App does not pay Nike to wear it.

But again, that open check book has always been there. This is just a PR scheme. And it's working because we're still talking about it -- imagine what recruits are saying if us old has beens are still talking on it.

[Pikapp79]

NIL and the portal is a disaster for programs outside the top 10-15. The divide will only widen as we go forward. I for one will never contribute a cent to NIL. If a player can land an endorsement deal good for him/her. A fan should not be asked to fund. My concern is booster clubs will start paying salaries. If or when that happens my dollars will no longer flow to the Yosef Club. One man’s opinion.

[AppWyo]

NIL and the portal is a disaster for programs outside the top 10-15. The divide will only widen as we go forward. I for one will never contribute a cent to NIL. If a player can land an endorsement deal good for him/her. A fan should not be asked to fund. My concern is booster clubs will start paying salaries. If or when that happens my dollars will no longer flow to the Yosef Club. One man’s opinion.

I really do believe that NIL and the transfer portal will actually close the divide between programs, especially with the expansion of the invitational tournament college football playoff. FBS will become more like the FCS. The top and bottom of the FBS is light years apart. The top and bottom of the FCS is not that far apart. What the NIL and Transfer portal has done is allowed the most selfish player show how really selfish they are. Some will always just see what they have to do to get theirs in the NFL.

Never underestimate the power of jealously.

The programs with the most money will have to deal with it more than the programs with the least amount of money.

The programs that attract the players with the best character will outperform the programs with the most tallent seeking the biggest paycheck.

The programs that have been successful at any level will continue to be successful. The Sun Belt will continue to be successful, because the teams are able to compete with each other. Some schools believe that the conference affiliation is what brings success. The Sun Belt has proved that what actually brings success is not the conference, but the members that are in that conference. The Sun Belt was left for dead by many of its members and then it brings in Appalachian and Georgia Southern and their winning became contagious which elevated the entire conference so much that Marshall, Southern Miss, James Madison, Coastal Carolina, and Old Dominion thought it would be a good idea to join them in the Sun Belt.

As long as there have been conferences, schools join and schools leave, and will continue to do so. We are entering a new age of college football that has the potential to be better than it has ever been before. It is going to get more exciting and fortunately Appalachian is at the forefront of this new age.

I doubt that the teams that have won the FCS championships these last ten years would have done so had they had to play Appalachian and Georgia Southern in the playoffs every year. A lot of FBS teams wish they did not have to play them in their bowl games either. Regardless of the circumstances having 12 out of 14 teams to qualify for a bowl game is unprecedented for a non-autonomous conference. That is even hard to do for an autonomous conference. Also I do not have to pull for Georgia State this year either.

[Pikapp79]

NIL and the portal is a disaster for programs outside the top 10-15. The divide will only widen as we go forward. I for one will never contribute a cent to NIL. If a player can land an endorsement deal good for him/her. A fan should not be asked to fund. My concern is booster clubs will start paying salaries. If or when that happens my dollars will no longer flow to the Yosef Club. One man’s opinion.

I really do believe that NIL and the transfer portal will actually close the divide between programs, especially with the expansion of the invitational tournament college football playoff. FBS will become more like the FCS. The top and bottom of the FBS is light years apart. The top and bottom of the FCS is not that far apart. What the NIL and Transfer portal has done is allowed the most selfish player show how really selfish they are. Some will always just see what they have to do to get theirs in the NFL.

Never underestimate the power of jealously.

The programs with the most money will have to deal with it more than the programs with the least amount of money.

The programs that attract the players with the best character will outperform the programs with the most tallent seeking the biggest paycheck.

The programs that have been successful at any level will continue to be successful. The Sun Belt will continue to be successful, because the teams are able to compete with each other. Some schools believe that the conference affiliation is what brings success. The Sun Belt has proved that what actually brings success is not the conference, but the members that are in that conference. The Sun Belt was left for dead by many of its members and then it brings in Appalachian and Georgia Southern and their winning became contagious which elevated the entire conference so much that Marshall, Southern Miss, James Madison, Coastal Carolina, and Old Dominion thought it would be a good idea to join them in the Sun Belt.

As long as there have been conferences, schools join and schools leave, and will continue to do so. We are entering a new age of college football that has the potential to be better than it has ever been before. It is going to get more exciting and fortunately Appalachian is at the forefront of this new age.

I doubt that the teams that have won the FCS championships these last ten years would have done so had they had to play Appalachian and Georgia Southern in the playoffs every year. A lot of FBS teams wish they did not have to play them in their bowl games either. Regardless of the circumstances having 12 out of 14 teams to qualify for a bowl game is unprecedented for a non-autonomous conference. That is even hard to do for an autonomous conference. Also I do not have to pull for Georgia State this year either.

Respect your opinion and hope you are right. Hope my frustration is clouding the actual result. We will see. Still will never support fan based NIL.

[AppSt94]

NIL and the portal is a disaster for programs outside the top 10-15. The divide will only widen as we go forward. I for one will never contribute a cent to NIL. If a player can land an endorsement deal good for him/her. A fan should not be asked to fund. My concern is booster clubs will start paying salaries. If or when that happens my dollars will no longer flow to the Yosef Club. One man’s opinion.

I really do believe that NIL and the transfer portal will actually close the divide between programs, especially with the expansion of the invitational tournament college football playoff. FBS will become more like the FCS. The top and bottom of the FBS is light years apart. The top and bottom of the FCS is not that far apart. What the NIL and Transfer portal has done is allowed the most selfish player show how really selfish they are. Some will always just see what they have to do to get theirs in the NFL.

Never underestimate the power of jealously.

The programs with the most money will have to deal with it more than the programs with the least amount of money.

The programs that attract the players with the best character will outperform the programs with the most tallent seeking the biggest paycheck.

The programs that have been successful at any level will continue to be successful. The Sun Belt will continue to be successful, because the teams are able to compete with each other. Some schools believe that the conference affiliation is what brings success. The Sun Belt has proved that what actually brings success is not the conference, but the members that are in that conference. The Sun Belt was left for dead by many of its members and then it brings in Appalachian and Georgia Southern and their winning became contagious which elevated the entire conference so much that Marshall, Southern Miss, James Madison, Coastal Carolina, and Old Dominion thought it would be a good idea to join them in the Sun Belt.

As long as there have been conferences, schools join and schools leave, and will continue to do so. We are entering a new age of college football that has the potential to be better than it has ever been before. It is going to get more exciting and fortunately Appalachian is at the forefront of this new age.

I doubt that the teams that have won the FCS championships these last ten years would have done so had they had to play Appalachian and Georgia Southern in the playoffs every year. A lot of FBS teams wish they did not have to play them in their bowl games either. Regardless of the circumstances having 12 out of 14 teams to qualify for a bowl game is unprecedented for a non-autonomous conference. That is even hard to do for an autonomous conference. Also I do not have to pull for Georgia State this year either.

Respect your opinion and hope you are right. Hope my frustration is clouding the actual result. We will see. Still will never support fan based NIL.

Frustration clouds a lot of judgement. Not pointing at you. Just stating facts.

[Pikapp79]

NIL and the portal is a disaster for programs outside the top 10-15. The divide will only widen as we go forward. I for one will never contribute a cent to NIL. If a player can land an endorsement deal good for him/her. A fan should not be asked to fund. My concern is booster clubs will start paying salaries. If or when that happens my dollars will no longer flow to the Yosef Club. One man’s opinion.

I really do believe that NIL and the transfer portal will actually close the divide between programs, especially with the expansion of the invitational tournament college football playoff. FBS will become more like the FCS. The top and bottom of the FBS is light years apart. The top and bottom of the FCS is not that far apart. What the NIL and Transfer portal has done is allowed the most selfish player show how really selfish they are. Some will always just see what they have to do to get theirs in the NFL.

Never underestimate the power of jealously.

The programs with the most money will have to deal with it more than the programs with the least amount of money.

The programs that attract the players with the best character will outperform the programs with the most tallent seeking the biggest paycheck.

The programs that have been successful at any level will continue to be successful. The Sun Belt will continue to be successful, because the teams are able to compete with each other. Some schools believe that the conference affiliation is what brings success. The Sun Belt has proved that what actually brings success is not the conference, but the members that are in that conference. The Sun Belt was left for dead by many of its members and then it brings in Appalachian and Georgia Southern and their winning became contagious which elevated the entire conference so much that Marshall, Southern Miss, James Madison, Coastal Carolina, and Old Dominion thought it would be a good idea to join them in the Sun Belt.

As long as there have been conferences, schools join and schools leave, and will continue to do so. We are entering a new age of college football that has the potential to be better than it has ever been before. It is going to get more exciting and fortunately Appalachian is at the forefront of this new age.

I doubt that the teams that have won the FCS championships these last ten years would have done so had they had to play Appalachian and Georgia Southern in the playoffs every year. A lot of FBS teams wish they did not have to play them in their bowl games either. Regardless of the circumstances having 12 out of 14 teams to qualify for a bowl game is unprecedented for a non-autonomous conference. That is even hard to do for an autonomous conference. Also I do not have to pull for Georgia State this year either.

Respect your opinion and hope you are right. Hope my frustration is clouding the actual result. We will see. Still will never support fan based NIL.

Frustration clouds a lot of judgement. Not pointing at you. Just stating facts.

A lot of what you state is opinion not fact.