His job is to be accurate. Saying that App State is "not ready for DI" is completely inaccurate, and shows how much effort and research he has put into covering Appalachian athletics. I'm not sure where you live, but having grown up in the Triad, this guy has been known as a putz for quite a while.bcoach wrote:This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy.Appsolutely wrote:"I hate it but he told the truth."
No, bcoach, he did not. I won't even get into all of the inaccuracies, but he accused us of going for two to embarass A&T, and that is a lie. He faulted us for not taking a knee at the end of the first half instead of trying to score.
"ASU had no respect for A&T, going for the early two-point conversion, going for it repeatedly on fourth down, throwing deep home-run passes when it should've been taking a knee, walking out of the stadium at halftime."
And how about this cheap shot: "Football season is all but over for the team that's going to FBS next season. That suddenly looks like a bad idea, too." Two losses and the season is "all but over?" And then the comment about FBS, which shows what really wads his panties.
He could have concentrated on what a great win it was for A&T and complimented their players, fans and coaches. Instead he used the article to denigrate our program and our fans. If you can live with that, have at it. "Act[ing] like big boys" does not include bending over when somebody does a hatchet job on our program.
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I agree he is a putz and I never heard of him before. I just don't see getting all hot and bothered. We are going to see a lot more of this. All these guys write their opinions and sometimes it is going to sting. Whenever you look as bad as we did the vultures are going to circle. There is nothing we can do about it. Only the team can do something about it and that is to win.ASUMountaineer wrote:His job is to be accurate. Saying that App State is "not ready for DI" is completely inaccurate, and shows how much effort and research he has put into covering Appalachian athletics. I'm not sure where you live, but having grown up in the Triad, this guy has been known as a putz for quite a while.bcoach wrote:This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy.Appsolutely wrote:"I hate it but he told the truth."
No, bcoach, he did not. I won't even get into all of the inaccuracies, but he accused us of going for two to embarass A&T, and that is a lie. He faulted us for not taking a knee at the end of the first half instead of trying to score.
"ASU had no respect for A&T, going for the early two-point conversion, going for it repeatedly on fourth down, throwing deep home-run passes when it should've been taking a knee, walking out of the stadium at halftime."
And how about this cheap shot: "Football season is all but over for the team that's going to FBS next season. That suddenly looks like a bad idea, too." Two losses and the season is "all but over?" And then the comment about FBS, which shows what really wads his panties.
He could have concentrated on what a great win it was for A&T and complimented their players, fans and coaches. Instead he used the article to denigrate our program and our fans. If you can live with that, have at it. "Act[ing] like big boys" does not include bending over when somebody does a hatchet job on our program.
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We went for two because the way A&T responded to the way we lined up for the XP. If we were going for two we wouldn't have done it with Hallock as the QB. He is the holder. Many teams will show a look of going for two and then shift back into kicking the PAT. If the defense lines up a certain way, then you go for two instead. Should we have punted the ball down two scores with less than 5 minutes to play in the game? We went for it on 4th down because at that point we were desperate not disrespectful. On the pick 6, the ball was under thrown to a wide open receiver who likely scores if the pass is thrown on target. We were losing 14-6, how were we being disrespectful at that point? I don't think there was a single instance in the game where we acted disrespectful towards A&T. Our overall play may have indicated we underestimated them and we paid for it. But, our play calling in and of itself, did not display an arrogant attitude.bcoach wrote:This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy. We got beat by A&T kind of hard to put lipstick on it.Appsolutely wrote:"I hate it but he told the truth."
No, bcoach, he did not. I won't even get into all of the inaccuracies, but he accused us of going for two to embarass A&T, and that is a lie. He faulted us for not taking a knee at the end of the first half instead of trying to score.
"ASU had no respect for A&T, going for the early two-point conversion, going for it repeatedly on fourth down, throwing deep home-run passes when it should've been taking a knee, walking out of the stadium at halftime."
And how about this cheap shot: "Football season is all but over for the team that's going to FBS next season. That suddenly looks like a bad idea, too." Two losses and the season is "all but over?" And then the comment about FBS, which shows what really wads his panties.
He could have concentrated on what a great win it was for A&T and complimented their players, fans and coaches. Instead he used the article to denigrate our program and our fans. If you can live with that, have at it. "Act[ing] like big boys" does not include bending over when somebody does a hatchet job on our program.
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Bcoach,
He can write whatever he likes, but we, as consumers, can call garbage garbage. Few can argue that we lost, underestimated A&T, or even that fans left early. However, Hardin's tone was vitriolic, and more resembled a rambling on Western's message board than a somewhat reputable newspaper. Insinuating that our season is ruined, our program has met its demise, and we are not good enough for the FBS was over the line, as well as an insult to A&T's accomplishment. He insulted our coach, players, fans, and entire program, just because he finally saw an opportunity. He is among a vocal minority who are reveling in our misfortune, due to his alma mater's 30-year tenure of being our whipping boy. There was nothing new in the article; no new information, insight, perspective, etc.. It was nothing more than a release of pent up frustration and envy. Too bad for Ed that the final chapter hasn't been written, conference play has yet to begin for us, and his team will have to play a talented and much improved squad than what he saw on Saturday. And that will be "numbing" for poor Ed.
He can write whatever he likes, but we, as consumers, can call garbage garbage. Few can argue that we lost, underestimated A&T, or even that fans left early. However, Hardin's tone was vitriolic, and more resembled a rambling on Western's message board than a somewhat reputable newspaper. Insinuating that our season is ruined, our program has met its demise, and we are not good enough for the FBS was over the line, as well as an insult to A&T's accomplishment. He insulted our coach, players, fans, and entire program, just because he finally saw an opportunity. He is among a vocal minority who are reveling in our misfortune, due to his alma mater's 30-year tenure of being our whipping boy. There was nothing new in the article; no new information, insight, perspective, etc.. It was nothing more than a release of pent up frustration and envy. Too bad for Ed that the final chapter hasn't been written, conference play has yet to begin for us, and his team will have to play a talented and much improved squad than what he saw on Saturday. And that will be "numbing" for poor Ed.
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http://m.news-record.com/blogs/hardin_hard_n_fast/
Ed's bio. A confirmed can't. Nothing more to see here. This uneducated wanna be can kiss my App!!!
Ed's bio. A confirmed can't. Nothing more to see here. This uneducated wanna be can kiss my App!!!
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"There is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy."
I can assure you I am shedding no tears.
Were you at the game? If so, you should know that we lined up (as more and more college teams are doing) in a formation in which the holder decides whether there is a good opportunity to score two points. If so, we go for two. If not, we kick it. To use that as some sort of proof that we didn't respect them or were taking them lightly is absurd. Why did we throw the long ball into coverage instead of "regrouping?" You'd have to ask JLJ about the "into coverage" part. But how in the wide, wide world of sports can that be viewed as lacking respect for them? We were behind and trying to move the ball downfield to put some points on the board. How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I have no idea, but I do know that going for it twice is not an inordinate number of times in one game, especially when you are behind.
I'm sure this so-called sports writer knew his article, saying we didn't respect them or took them lightly, would be warmly received by the A&T fans (if I am not mistaken, a hiatus in this series resulted from a tense situation at one of our games down in Greensboro). But there is not one scintilla of proof that this is the case, despite his best efforts to spin it as such.
I can assure you I am shedding no tears.
Were you at the game? If so, you should know that we lined up (as more and more college teams are doing) in a formation in which the holder decides whether there is a good opportunity to score two points. If so, we go for two. If not, we kick it. To use that as some sort of proof that we didn't respect them or were taking them lightly is absurd. Why did we throw the long ball into coverage instead of "regrouping?" You'd have to ask JLJ about the "into coverage" part. But how in the wide, wide world of sports can that be viewed as lacking respect for them? We were behind and trying to move the ball downfield to put some points on the board. How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I have no idea, but I do know that going for it twice is not an inordinate number of times in one game, especially when you are behind.
I'm sure this so-called sports writer knew his article, saying we didn't respect them or took them lightly, would be warmly received by the A&T fans (if I am not mistaken, a hiatus in this series resulted from a tense situation at one of our games down in Greensboro). But there is not one scintilla of proof that this is the case, despite his best efforts to spin it as such.
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Again I will say that he has won. He has accomplished what he set out to do. The only way to shut him up is to win. We haven't done that yet so we have a chance again against Elon. He is probably on this board laughing his a$$ off. I understand the 2 points and the going on 4th but if you look at our track record we don't do much, if any of that. How many times have we yelled for them to go for it and we don't. Therefore it is very easy to make it look like we thought we could do to them what we would not try on other teams. All this gnashing of teeth is just giving this guy way too much attention. If we really think we are going to have success the rest of the season let's let the team shut him up. Really guys this is only the beginning.
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WataugaMan wrote:This article did go beyond what a professional sports reporter would produce. Yes, A&T did beat us fair and square. Report it and move on. However, it is APParent that this individual has some sort of personal ax to grind with ASU. Once again, it is his job to report on the game without interjecting personal feeling into the story. By doing so he puts himself and the newspaper he works for in jeopardy of being viewed in a negative light by the public. I don't know, but, if I were an App grad/supporter/etc. and had financial ties or business with this newspaper I'd be considering severing ties about right now.
Is this numbnuts a reporter or a columnist? There is a difference. A reporter is supposed to remain impartial are tell what happened. A columnist gets paid to do exactly what this douche is doing: writing opinions and inflame the readers to draw attention to whatever rag he's writing for whether it be print or e-based. I'm just not gonna read his crap. He does not exist to me.
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Last week against Montana we could have taken a knee but Kam came out throwing, and we went down the field and got a FG. It gave us some momentum heading into the half. Had we done the same thing this week we would have been tied at the end of the game.bcoach wrote: This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy. We got beat by A&T kind of hard to put lipstick on it.
Last year we went for it on 4th 23 times in 12 games so 2 times in this game is perfectly normal.
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Ok I have had my fun messing with you. The guy is a jerk and has no idea what he is talking about. With that said we have got to get a grip. The more exposure we get the more this will happen. Just look down the road about 5 years when we are established and I will bet you there will be many more positive articles than negative. We are not winning at the moment and this is what happens. We win at Elon and he will not have anything to say.
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I will stand corrected. I would never have thought we went for it that many times on 4th. Just didn't feel like it.JTApps1 wrote:Last week against Montana we could have taken a knee but Kam came out throwing, and we went down the field and got a FG. It gave us some momentum heading into the half. Had we done the same thing this week we would have been tied at the end of the game.bcoach wrote: This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it on 4th in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy. We got beat by A&T kind of hard to put lipstick on it.
Last year we went for it on 4th 23 times in 12 games so 2 times in this game is perfectly normal.
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I agree that it's the nature of the game. Still doesn't mean that I can't spare a few minutes to remind him of his inability to do his job correctly. Of course, as a COMM major, I tend to be extra critical of the media.bcoach wrote:I agree he is a putz and I never heard of him before. I just don't see getting all hot and bothered. We are going to see a lot more of this. All these guys write their opinions and sometimes it is going to sting. Whenever you look as bad as we did the vultures are going to circle. There is nothing we can do about it. Only the team can do something about it and that is to win.ASUMountaineer wrote:His job is to be accurate. Saying that App State is "not ready for DI" is completely inaccurate, and shows how much effort and research he has put into covering Appalachian athletics. I'm not sure where you live, but having grown up in the Triad, this guy has been known as a putz for quite a while.bcoach wrote:This is just pretty normal in the sports world. there is a difference between bending over and just shedding tears every time somebody writes an article. Can you tell me why we went for two? can you tell me why we threw a bomb down field into coverage instead of regrouping? How many times have we gone for it in the past? I like going for it a lot of times but if you look at our track record it looks like we just thought it would be easy. Again I don't like it but he wrote it as he saw it and that is his job. His job is not to make us happy.Appsolutely wrote:"I hate it but he told the truth."
No, bcoach, he did not. I won't even get into all of the inaccuracies, but he accused us of going for two to embarass A&T, and that is a lie. He faulted us for not taking a knee at the end of the first half instead of trying to score.
"ASU had no respect for A&T, going for the early two-point conversion, going for it repeatedly on fourth down, throwing deep home-run passes when it should've been taking a knee, walking out of the stadium at halftime."
And how about this cheap shot: "Football season is all but over for the team that's going to FBS next season. That suddenly looks like a bad idea, too." Two losses and the season is "all but over?" And then the comment about FBS, which shows what really wads his panties.
He could have concentrated on what a great win it was for A&T and complimented their players, fans and coaches. Instead he used the article to denigrate our program and our fans. If you can live with that, have at it. "Act[ing] like big boys" does not include bending over when somebody does a hatchet job on our program.
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Let's see what type of article he writes after App destroys the Whee by 30 in the last Mountain Jug game. Let's face it, this was a hachet job but App has been flying high for years while the Cants have not been relevant in the SoCon for more than a decade. The Apps gave him the opportunity with poor play and he took it. He took some liberty with the truth but then that's todays media.
What else is going to write about, another WCU defeat??
What else is going to write about, another WCU defeat??
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After the game, if this is what in fact occurs, someone can write up the story/analysis of the game and e-mail it to him. You know, help the guy out. Explain how we ran the ball down their throats and ripped them to shreads, and things like that.SpeedkingATL wrote:Let's see what type of article he writes after App destroys the Whee by 30 in the last Mountain Jug game.

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No offense, but people were talking like this after the Montana game about A&T. I hope we are focused on winning the next game and right now I am not sure we are capable of destroying anything, much less WCU.SpeedkingATL wrote:Let's see what type of article he writes after App destroys the Whee by 30 in the last Mountain Jug game. Let's face it, this was a hachet job but App has been flying high for years while the Cants have not been relevant in the SoCon for more than a decade. The Apps gave him the opportunity with poor play and he took it. He took some liberty with the truth but then that's todays media.
What else is going to write about, another WCU defeat??
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You do understand it will be empty, right?appmaj wrote:I am submitting my formal request to keep it at my house.bcoach wrote:What do we do with the jug after that game?
