ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by GoAppsGo92 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:06 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
DPASU wrote:Starts with the offensive line getting run through...

Then with the runs through the middle of the line...

Then the lack of ability to throw the football (???)

And finally defense stands and watches..until they get mad enough to commit a personal foul...


ugly

SS is doing his best with what THE COMMITTEE left him. It takes time to rebuild a program that was on the slide, at least 2 years for results in the right direction, could be a little longer since APP is having to compete every week next season with established 85 scholarship programs.

On the other hand, what would some say if the same things were happening with Coach Moore on APPs sidelines this season? :shock:

He caught the right wave out on a winning season and not out on a 2-10 note. :oops:
I think these guys just might pick up the last 2 this year. They are due for a win against Woffie, and the way we played today against the conference's number one defense, I think these guys will end at 4-4 in conference play. We really need a win against one of the teams vying for the title this year. Might as well be Woffie.

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:09 pm

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WataugaMan wrote:Still believe we could have tied it up given the situation we were in at approximately 1 min. left. At the same time I'm not to sure we would have pulled it out in OT for obvious reasons.
Notice the differences you are pointing out in today's team and the teams of our championship runs. Those teams had what it took to pull it out.
Those teams of the championship runs would not have been in that situation in the first place. They would have taken advantage of those UTC mistakes and put the game away by the middle of the 4th.

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:12 pm

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Black Saturday wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:Still believe we could have tied it up given the situation we were in at approximately 1 min. left. At the same time I'm not to sure we would have pulled it out in OT for obvious reasons.
Notice the differences you are pointing out in today's team and the teams of our championship runs. Those teams had what it took to pull it out.
Those teams of the championship runs would not have been in that situation in the first place. They would have taken advantage of those UTC mistakes and put the game away by the middle of the 4th.
Agree!

Northern Iowa, Furman, Georgia Southern James Madison, Michigan games come to mind.
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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:15 pm

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Black Saturday wrote:
DPASU wrote:Starts with the offensive line getting run through...

Then with the runs through the middle of the line...

Then the lack of ability to throw the football (???)

And finally defense stands and watches..until they get mad enough to commit a personal foul...


ugly

SS is doing his best with what THE COMMITTEE left him. It takes time to rebuild a program that was on the slide, at least 2 years for results in the right direction, could be a little longer since APP is having to compete every week next season with established 85 scholarship programs.

On the other hand, what would some say if the same things were happening with Coach Moore on APPs sidelines this season? :shock:

He caught the right wave out on a winning season and not out on a 2-10 note. :oops:

It's Bush's fault.

I'll use my own favorite Presidential reference in this matter. Truman's sign on his desk read,.......................... 'The Buck Stops Here!"
SS has redshirted his recruits from what I hear, he's left with another's for the most part.

The head coach is responsible for what happens, and if Satterfield doesn't get the ship righted in his due time, he's got to go.
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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:21 pm

DPASU wrote:Starts with the offensive line getting run through...

Then with the runs through the middle of the line...

Then the lack of ability to throw the football (???)

And finally defense stands and watches..until they get mad enough to commit a personal foul...


ugly
well we outgained them by 75 yards
well our QB was 26 of 36 and his only int was not his fault
the defense didn't stand and watch - it was the punt return team on the field and the personal foul was on a WR/KR

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:23 pm

Gonzo wrote:O-line, O-line, O-line.
so when I continue to read comments like this I have to assume you believe the entire 5 man offensive line is terrible??? --- and this is based on what? ---
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:30 pm

The left side on the line did not perform well. Postgame comments by Brown confirm that. He mentioned Lamm got injured in the first half and did not look the same. The right side held up much better.

The play calls on 3rd and 4th and two provided an open receiver on each attempt. We did not execute, the players that didn't execute will be the first ones to agree in the film room.

We are getting better dispite the W-L record.

Really like Malichi (sp?).

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:34 pm

Saint3333 wrote:The left side on the line did not perform well. Postgame comments by Brown confirm that. He mentioned Lamm got injured in the first half and did not look the same. The right side held up much better.

The play calls on 3rd and 4th and two provided an open receiver on each attempt. We did not execute, the players that didn't execute will be the first ones to agree in the film room.

We are getting better dispite the W-L record.

Really like Malichi (sp?).
Agree about getting better.

I think our team and receivers have stepped up and continue to play better as a unit without CANCER.
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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by appst89 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:41 pm

The good:
-We played hard and with emotion. Good to see that we haven't quit.
-Cox will be a beast before he graduates.
-Receivers made some nice plays.
-Bentlee Critcher could be our next NFL punter.

The bad:
-The left side of the offensive line may as well have been a swinging door. O-line play, or lack thereof, continues to kill us.
-Kam has got to learn to throw the ball away.
-How could we not be prepared for fakes from a Heusman team? They ran three consecutive onside kicks against us just a couple of years ago. This guy will run a fake anytime from anywhere on the field and we weren't ready for them.....twice.
-3rd and 2 from the nine with a minute to go and three time-outs and we throw twice into the end zone? Really? Absolutely awful management of the clock and the situation.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:45 pm

[quote="Saint3333"]The left side on the line did not perform well. Postgame comments by Brown confirm that. He mentioned Lamm got injured in the first half and did not look the same. The right side held up much better.

The play calls on 3rd and 4th and two provided an open receiver on each attempt. We did not execute, the players that didn't execute will be the first ones to agree in the film room.

We are getting better dispite the W-L record.

Really like Malichi (sp?).[/quote
]I agree with your point but some people continue to say the OL as if the entire group isn't performing - I watched the OL closely today and that just isn't the case ---
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:53 pm

Most fans tend to not watch the line play but can put the pieces together that there is an issue on the Oline when our QB is hurried and RB gets tackled for losses. A greater percentages of those negative plays came from the left side.

I miss Kerry Brown.

On a side note I got to speak to Kilgore 49ers bye week. Very nice man and based upon his comments during the game sounds like a future coach.

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:13 pm

appst89 wrote:The good:
-We played hard and with emotion. Good to see that we haven't quit.
-Cox will be a beast before he graduates.
-Receivers made some nice plays.
-Bentlee Critcher could be our next NFL punter.

The bad:
-The left side of the offensive line may as well have been a swinging door. O-line play, or lack thereof, continues to kill us.
-Kam has got to learn to throw the ball away.
-How could we not be prepared for fakes from a Heusman team? They ran three consecutive onside kicks against us just a couple of years ago. This guy will run a fake anytime from anywhere on the field and we weren't ready for them.....twice.-3rd and 2 from the nine with a minute to go and three time-outs and we throw twice into the end zone? Really? Absolutely awful management of the clock and the situation.
Critcher has a creature of a leg. Noticed that at the Georgia Southern game.


Huesmann fooled The Committee and the SS now with his trickery.

It does seem like APP teams over the years have been susceptible to getting burned by most all trick plays, onside kicks, fake punts, fake field goals, KO returns, and anything else you can think of, while never employing any that actually work. sheesh.
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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by ViewCrew87 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:15 pm

Not calling time out on the obvious fake field goal when the kicker rolled out was a blunder. The OL issue is the LG (call it like it is as it has been obvious all season). Hope the Thursday scrimmages are showing some promise with the redshirts. We did throw a first down to the TE in the middle and it mysteriously disappeared from the play calling again.

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:52 am

ViewCrew87 wrote:Not calling time out on the obvious fake field goal when the kicker rolled out was a blunder.
Brownie saw that one coming, he stated just before the players took the field, "watch for the fake here", special teams failure again! As someone stated earlier in the week, during this off season SS is going to have to take a serious look at his staff. The fake field goal and punt resulted in 14 UTC points. These constant blunders can't be permitted to continue! :oops:

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Re: ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:33 am

If there are records kept for such, we have to lead the nation in susceptibility for trick plays. This has been the case for a decade.

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:49 am

Agreed, we continually fail in this area. Special Teams is definitely an area that needs more attention and focus, they're "killing" us!! Seems that for every positive play, there is another negative one (one step forward and two steps back). With UTC being noted for using a lot of trick plays in the past you would think we would have been better prepared for it.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:09 am

hapapp wrote:If there are records kept for such, we have to lead the nation in susceptibility for trick plays. This has been the case for a decade.
At least a decade :shock:
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:11 am

WataugaMan wrote:Agreed, we continually fail in this area. Special Teams is definitely an area that needs more attention and focus, they're "killing" us!! Seems that for every positive play, there is another negative one (one step forward and two steps back). With UTC being noted for using a lot of trick plays in the past you would think we would have been better prepared for it.
According to what I remember Steve saying was that the punt wasn't set up as a fake punt - it was a terrible snap and the punter decided to make a run for it - we did have a guy right there who unfortunately missed the tackle ---
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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:21 am

That's what I originally heard as well, however, the following quote appeared in today's WSJ:

"The Mountaineers, about to get the ball back with a touchdown lead, instead were left stunned when a high punt snap was converted into a first down by the Mocs. Coach Russ Huesman said that he had called for a fake punt. Regardless, punter Nick Pollard wound up snagging the errant snap that nearly sailed over his head and, with few options against a converging defender, found running room for a 17-yard gain."

Regardless, terrible Special Teams play.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:28 am

WataugaMan wrote:That's what I originally heard as well, however, the following quote appeared in today's WSJ:

"The Mountaineers, about to get the ball back with a touchdown lead, instead were left stunned when a high punt snap was converted into a first down by the Mocs. Coach Russ Huesman said that he had called for a fake punt. Regardless, punter Nick Pollard wound up snagging the errant snap that nearly sailed over his head and, with few options against a converging defender, found running room for a 17-yard gain."

Regardless, terrible Special Teams play.
Historically Huesman has taken credit for all his great coaching moves - accident or not :o
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