WTH Happened to the team that played last week?

[Black Saturday]

This is a rebuilding year. We are young, inexperienced, and have little depth at key positions. We should expect some losses, but not to this extent and at home.

I agree, I pointed out earlier that we've had a home "head scratching" loss each of the last 3 years

Villanova - Maine - Citadel

[ebapps1]

I sort of feel that we are like the Atlanta Braves with Booby Cox at the helm. We will always be good enough to win and make the playoffs and the occasional title. But just like the Braves there are too many good teams that just fizzle in the playoffs.

[appst89]

I sort of feel that we are like the Atlanta Braves with Booby Cox at the helm. We will always be good enough to win and make the playoffs and the occasional title. But just like the Braves there are too many good teams that just fizzle in the playoffs.

Not sure we've got the playoffs to worry about this year. I thought we took a huge step forward against Montana, but we took at least four giant steps backward yesterday. The Gumroots and the Ankle Biters will each put 50+ on us if we don't quickly learn how to defend the option. Our offense looks just like it did with The Committee. There are more losses than wins left on the schedule unless something changes.

[ViewCrew87]

After an overnight self-imposed cool down period...the telling stat line is our D gave up 160 yards on 3rd down in the first half!! With 2 of those being 3rd and 9.
D couldn't get off the field.

[87ASUgrad]

I sort of feel that we are like the Atlanta Braves with Booby Cox at the helm. We will always be good enough to win and make the playoffs and the occasional title. But just like the Braves there are too many good teams that just fizzle in the playoffs.

Not sure we've got the playoffs to worry about this year. I thought we took a huge step forward against Montana, but we took at least four giant steps backward yesterday. The Gumroots and the Ankle Biters will each put 50+ on us if we don't quickly learn how to defend the option. Our offense looks just like it did with The Committee. There are more losses than wins left on the schedule unless something changes.

"Playoffs?!??, are you kidding me..Playoffs?..."

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[philponder]

Where was our DEFENSE in the first quarter? Where was our long awaited Coach Satterfield and his brilliance? This was just embarrassing! Wonder what Coach Moore will say after this game? He always says the same thing...." they were a better team, blah,blah,blah"! It's time to make some Moore changes!

Boonelocal, is that you?

[Apptiger]

I am not saying anybody should be fired today.

They clearly were the better team. I'm still shaking my head at the fact the laid the lumber to us like they did.

I think we are banged up and depth is an issue in the backfield is hampering us for now.

Maybe The Citadel is riding the perfect storm this season? Before today, based on everything Citadel I knew and what I saw last week from APP, nobody could have made me believe what happened today. For our sake I hope Citadel is really that good as they rolled us today. Hopefully this is one of their good teams they have every 10-12 years.

I sat in the stands and watched their 92 team spank us, but not like today

Someone else said they were bigger, stronger and faster too.

These comments concern me a lot. I thought we were in a place were depth for FCS and especially SOCon wasn't an issue and it was just reload and continue the beatings. Not going to win every week but. And yes, everything runs in cycles but is our cycle done?
Yes, were are young but is the talent we attract not at the level we think it is or do we really have no depth at all? Jackson has been playing hurt and I haven't really noticed anyone run the ball but Miller since Chisolm went down.
We are at a critical point for the program for support, attendance and future growth. If this continues the achievements and progress of the last ten years will be forgotten. Bandwagon's empty faster than they are built. We won't be complaining about people leaving early, we will be complaining about them not showing up.

[philponder]

Come off the ledge, people. All the handwringing is funny to me. It's always been that way on this and every other team's message board after a big loss. I just assume these posters are high school or college kids and laugh them off. Hopefully they will grow into more mature fans and learn to cherish the successes while taking the losses in stride.

I do think it inappropriate and cowardly for anonymous message board posters to call for coaches to be fired after a day like Saturday. I dare say most wouldn't make these same comments directly to the individuals targeted or even post them here using their real name instead of a cute message board moniker. Jerry Moore certainly doesn't need me to defend his ability or record. Our staff is basically all new and 24 hours ago most/all would have said they are doing a fine job.

I have been fortunate in the past to have had some exposure to the ASU coaching staff. Most outside this little circle would be surprised to learn hard these people work, how many hours they put in on a weekly basis from August to December, and how much they care. Hopefully they are too busy to read MMB.

[fjblair]

The Citadel is a very good and much improved team. Yesterday the stars aligned and they hammered ust will. We could do nothing right and they could do no wrong. It happens now and then. The game was a fluke as ASU is obviously a better team than what showed up yesterday. Our win over Montana made us content and the Citadel win over GSU gave them motivation. The two forces collided on that given day and BAM they handed us our ass.

[philponder]

The Citadel is a very good and much improved team. Yesterday the stars aligned and they hammered ust will. We could do nothing right and they could do no wrong. It happens now and then. The game was a fluke as ASU is obviously a better team than what showed up yesterday. Our win over Montana made us content and the Citadel win over GSU gave them motivation. The two forces collided on that given day and BAM they handed us our ass.

ASU clearly can play better with what they've got, but Citadel is legit. These are not the powder blue boys we used to laugh about. They play NSCU next week and I bet they make a game of it.

[WataugaMan]

ASU is obviously a better team than what showed up yesterday. Our win over Montana made us content and the Citadel win over GSU gave them motivation. The two forces collided on that given day and BAM they handed us our ass.

Agreed, and I hope the "woodshed butt kicking" The Citadel gave us will serve as a lesson learned. It is a shame the team let this all happen on the 50th anniversary of Kidd Brewer Stadium. It is what it is, once again, I hope a lesson was learned. Guess we will see next week, to be continued...

[ASU-FTW]

Here is a fact that we all need to take into consideration:

The Citadel is not as good as they appeared to be yesterday, and we are not as bad as we appeared to be yesterday either.

These blowout losses are simply occurrences of two extremes, not reality.

[97grad]

I sort of feel that we are like the Atlanta Braves with Booby Cox at the helm. We will always be good enough to win and make the playoffs and the occasional title. But just like the Braves there are too many good teams that just fizzle in the playoffs.

Not sure we've got the playoffs to worry about this year. I thought we took a huge step forward against Montana, but we took at least four giant steps backward yesterday. The Gumroots and the Ankle Biters will each put 50+ on us if we don't quickly learn how to defend the option. Our offense looks just like it did with The Committee. There are more losses than wins left on the schedule unless something changes.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this. The pace has quickened a little, but there is still way too much running up the middle for my taste, often on first down even. And I think I can count on one hand the number of long balls we've thrown all season. As for Saturday, I missed coach Moore's post game comments. What did he say? I guess there's not much he can say but I was genuinely curious to hear him attempt to explain this complete implosion on both sides of the ball.

[mountaineerman]

Yes please explain coach

[WataugaMan]

He said The Citadel played really hard.

[97grad]

He said The Citadel played really hard.

Well played

[AppAlum1]

My take on the game was, as follows:
1) the offense played OK; not great, but not bad either. If we score 28, then normally, I expect to win.
There were no turnovers -- another good stat. We've got to get off to better starts than that though.
2) the special teams played better than usual. No turnovers, & some really good runbacks. El Cit never ran back a big one; they did get a punt blocked, so still got some work to do.
3) And, then there's the defense. Don't know where to start. First, comparing this game to GaSo last year, our D absolutely took the Iggles to the woodshed. That's what I expected to see against El Cit. I think that our faults there come down to two things. First, Lott was out -- having a freshman DB start against such an offense was a baptism by fire. So, getting Lott back will be good. But, the second thing may be more important. Last year, we had a 3 - 4 against GaSo. Led by the big guy in the center. His name is escaping me, but he was a HUGE nose tackle transfer from Blinn College, 5'11", 310 lbs. & he graduated last year. He was dancing around in GaSo's backfield all game long. We did not have another such player last Saturday. The other big factor is that our young D guys just overpursued against El Cit. I think we will do better the more experience our guys get. Finally, DuPree showed more speed & quickness against our DBs -- I have not seen a team do that since Florida.

To make a long story short, El Cit just had our number last Saturday. Congrats to them. We'll get better.

Finally, all you fellers calling for Coach Moore's head need to grow up. That's a lame assed response to a good old-fashioned butt whoopin'. I did not like it; I'll bet the team did not like it either. I'll guarantee you Coach Moore & the other coaches did not like it. That was a good Citadel team we played. They'll give NC State all they want to see of the triple option.

Trust the team to improve. They will. And, the coaching staff will help them do it.

[GlassOnion]

1.) There was a turnover, Miller coughed it up just before the half, The Cit missed the field goal.

3.) We didnt run a 3-4 against Georgia Southern. We put 4, sometimes 5 on the line. Our safeties also whooped behind last year, not so this year.

We ran a 3-4 against The Citadel last year, and they put of a hell of alot of points on us, almost came back and beat us. We learned in the first 2 triple O games what NOT to do.

Dan Wiley was the NT last year, he wasnt from Blinn, that was Chris Aiken, his back up.

As for Lott coming back, he has no experience at the triple O either, so now we've got to go through a learning curve again?

[ASUMountaineer]

knee jerk reaction , fickle fan? gees you are probably a carolina fan do you think this is an acceptable loss at home to a team imo we should never lose to?

Welcome to the board, bro. Calling Veg a "Carolina fan" is the most asinine thing I've ever read. Stay around a while and you'll learn it's a long season, this loss doesn't end the season (or the world). Veg and I have both been following ASU for YEARS...get a grip.

[ASUMountaineer]

doesnt coach moore head this team? I would think he has final say at the end of week that team is prepared. Also if you called the first quote on the messageboard right, then it sounds very obvious . Not arguing just ssaying? via very pissed off phone

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