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Re: Second Half

Unread post by HeffnerIV » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:09 pm

GreatAppSt wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote: As is said every year: You have to change everything you do for a week to prepare for that offense.
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What offense did we have to change to prepare for Heff?
I'm referring to their offense.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by App91 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:13 pm

HeffnerIV wrote:
GreatAppSt wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote: As is said every year: You have to change everything you do for a week to prepare for that offense.
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What offense did we have to change to prepare for Heff?
I'm referring to their offense.
You mean a run-heavy spread?

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by HeffnerIV » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:19 pm

App91 wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote:
GreatAppSt wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote: As is said every year: You have to change everything you do for a week to prepare for that offense.
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What offense did we have to change to prepare for Heff?
I'm referring to their offense.
You mean a run-heavy spread?
Theirs is not necessarily a spread, they just run from the gun now and don't send a back in motion as often. They still often have the first option dive and much of their plays derive from that option.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:20 pm

Sun Belt Champs? ULL and Ark StAte may have something to say about that.


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Re: Second Half

Unread post by App91 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:31 pm

GUS will not be SB champs. ULL and stAte are much better.. Shows how far we have to climb

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by Goapps15 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:50 pm

App91 wrote:GUS will not be SB champs. ULL and stAte are much better.. Shows how far we have to climb
The same ULL team that got their butts handed to them by Louisiana Tech. Louisiana Tech lost last weekend to Northwestern State (LA).

GSU and Ark State are the class of the league.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:22 am

MAD Doctor wrote:Sun Belt Champs? ULL and Ark StAte may have something to say about that.

They'll have nothing to say about it as far as GSU is concerned because they don't play either of them. They should basically coast to 6-0 before their last two vs. TX St and ULM.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:28 am

t4pizza wrote:
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luvyosef wrote:South Alabama, Liberty and Troy ain't Ga Southern. I like App's chances.
Yep. We might well have lost to the best team in the league. ;)
How comes everytime we lose people preach about how good the other team is? We need to face facts, we are 5-11 in the past 2 years and we have lost to a lot of bad teams in that span. At this point we are not a good team. We got killed by a bad Michigan team and there were people on here saying Michigan was better than their 07 team. We lose football games too often now and its not because our opponents are great teams, it is because we are not.
That being said, we should look much bettef the next three weeks and we should win those games. But if we dont, I am sure that i will read about how great those other teams are.
I'm not saying it because we lost to them. I said it before the game because of how they've played this season. They went to USA against a team many said might challenge for the league title and blew them out. They went toe to toe with two ACC teams while the rest of the league has been throwing up all over itself.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:20 am

t4pizza wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
luvyosef wrote:South Alabama, Liberty and Troy ain't Ga Southern. I like App's chances.
Yep. We might well have lost to the best team in the league. ;)
How comes everytime we lose people preach about how good the other team is? We need to face facts, we are 5-11 in the past 2 years and we have lost to a lot of bad teams in that span. At this point we are not a good team. We got killed by a bad Michigan team and there were people on here saying Michigan was better than their 07 team. We lose football games too often now and its not because our opponents are great teams, it is because we are not.
That being said, we should look much bettef the next three weeks and we should win those games. But if we dont, I am sure that i will read about how great those other teams are.
Lots of people are saying we should just accept losing and looking bad while doing it. I do see promise for this team, but a lot of pseudo-optimism on here feels much more like desperation. We might be relevant again at some point in the future, but right now we're just a bad football team and I'm not going to try to paint it any other way.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by Black Saturday » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:13 am

EastHallApp wrote:
luvyosef wrote:South Alabama, Liberty and Troy ain't Ga Southern. I like App's chances.
Yep. We might well have lost to the best team in the league tonight. Sucks that GSU is probably going to win the Sun Belt title, but I think we'll win a few games too.

And hey, we'll go to the same bowl they do. ;)

Yep, after the Michigan game, Michigan was going to be undefeated headed into their showdown with Ohio State and possibly win the Big Ten.

Just because a teams spanks us doesn't mean that team gets a pass for superior status. This year GSU is a better team than APP, I don't know if they'll win our conference after 2 conference games against bottom feeders South Alabama and APP. This season we are young and inconsistent in our key positions at best.
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Re: Second Half

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:17 am

App91 wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:In the next three weeks this team will start to execute and really surprise a lot of our fans that are down on this team tonight.

We aren't executing and continue to make mental mistakes, but I saw positives tonight to give me hope for the second half of the year.
You're exactly right Andy.

If you can't see how close this team actually is, and you don't have the patience to wait for the team to develop, you dont know anything about football. As is said every year: You have to change everything you do for a week to prepare for that offense. We will get our first SunBelt win next week at home.



Freakin' relax.[/quote

Sorry Heff I just do not see it.
I see a team I'll prepared and over matched
GS is not a triple O team but the do run a lot, over powered us
Could part of that overmatched be from the type of strength training they have gotten for the last two years?

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:30 am

t4pizza wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
luvyosef wrote:South Alabama, Liberty and Troy ain't Ga Southern. I like App's chances.
Yep. We might well have lost to the best team in the league. ;)
How comes everytime we lose people preach about how good the other team is? We need to face facts, we are 5-11 in the past 2 years and we have lost to a lot of bad teams in that span. At this point we are not a good team. We got killed by a bad Michigan team and there were people on here saying Michigan was better than their 07 team. We lose football games too often now and its not because our opponents are great teams, it is because we are not.
That being said, we should look much bettef the next three weeks and we should win those games. But if we dont, I am sure that i will read about how great those other teams are.
Anyone who thought this years Michigan team is better than the one from 2007 is wrong and their opinions on football should be weighed as such.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by Budman2154 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:38 am

I took two positives away from last nights shed job. Finally Satterfailed didnt say how great the defense played in a losing effort and he acknowledged that THEY need to COACH better. I think he finally hit the nail on the head.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by Saint3333 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:41 am

USA at home should be a tight game (they have pretty good line play), Liberty a win, and Troy is down this year.

I predicted at 4 or 5 wins at the start of the season and I think it'll happen and we will be competitive with every team in November.

With what Scott and Co. inherited I believe they should get four years, we are 16 games into that 48 games. I know it is hard to be patient.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by asu7 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:59 am

I just have a hard time accepting the excuse we are young every year. The past 3 years we have heard this. The reason we are getting beat is because we are not a good football team and the opposition is better. GSU was and is prepared for FBS while we are not. Jerry is part to blame for the OLINE as he didn't recruit and linemen for 2 years. Scott is responsible for the rest. This App team still looks like an FCS team. Granted a decent FCS team. GSU looks like an FBS team. They were faster at every position and had size at every position. They did their homework. It was almost like we were taking a test we didn't study for. Completely out coached and out played. Will we get better? I dunno. Not this year. I am willing to give Scott one more year to right the ship. If we still look like we do now at the end of next year we need to move on.

For the love of Pete can we recruit some size and not run up the middle anymore. Maybe throw down the field a bit more instead of throwing behind the line of scrimmage. We are slow and small compared to GSU.

From the way we look we win 2 games this year. Remember Liberty had UNC on the ropes for 3qtrs. I think we squeak by LU after that it gets foggy.
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Re: Second Half

Unread post by YesAppCan » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:02 am

I do concede that we looked SLOOOOWW compared to GS.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:08 am

Saint3333 wrote:USA at home should be a tight game (they have pretty good line play), Liberty a win, and Troy is down this year.

I predicted at 4 or 5 wins at the start of the season and I think it'll happen and we will be competitive with every team in November.

With what Scott and Co. inherited I believe they should get four years, we are 16 games into that 48 games. I know it is hard to be patient.
Saint3333, I think GSU has drawn the diagram to beat APP for every team we play this year. Pressure the QB, because our Oline can't stop them. Cover the slants. Pressure up front also slows the APP running game. Pressure every kick and punt. APP will make mistakes and deliver opportunity for the opposition.

My question is do we change what we do on offense (ie, add motion or move the pocket or use the TE more) or will we just charge forward hoping our team will grow in skill?
I feel we are who we are and growth is not in sight. BUT,I am hoping for light that future has brightness. Its just been several years of poor play, not just one.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by AppAttack » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:38 am

We will beat S Alabama at The Rock. Mark it down.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by app87 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:41 am

Saint3333 wrote:USA at home should be a tight game (they have pretty good line play), Liberty a win, and Troy is down this year.

I predicted at 4 or 5 wins at the start of the season and I think it'll happen and we will be competitive with every team in November.

With what Scott and Co. inherited I believe they should get four years, we are 16 games into that 48 games. I know it is hard to be patient.
Be careful to count Liberty as a win off hand...got to see them play against Bryant due to my son attending CFAW up there and checking out their engineering program. Talented offense with a QB that does not panic and can pick a defense apart and has a good arm. Defense likes to swarm. Besides the Coastal game, they have circled App as a huge game this year for recruiting and crowing. This I got from many fans and students when I wore my App gear around there.

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Re: Second Half

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:42 am

HeffnerIV wrote:
App91 wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote:
GreatAppSt wrote:
HeffnerIV wrote: As is said every year: You have to change everything you do for a week to prepare for that offense.
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What offense did we have to change to prepare for Heff?
I'm referring to their offense.
You mean a run-heavy spread?
Theirs is not necessarily a spread, they just run from the gun now and don't send a back in motion as often. They still often have the first option dive and much of their plays derive from that option.
Agreed. They basically run the triple option from the shotgun. I told a GSU fan last night that they should call it the "Triple Barrel."
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