Kicking Game

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:06 pm

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JTApps1 wrote:I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.
Here is the commitment you were talking about:
K/P Michael Rubino (6′ 3″ 190) of Middle Creek High School in Apex, NC (posted July 30, 2014) …committed to Appalachian State (updated Sept 6, 2014)

Thats all great and everything but we still have 8 games to play this year. We have to have some kind of stop gap measure now. We really can't just go for it on every 4th down in the redzone from here on out.
He needs to kick a field goal to get his mind back right. It will be a mind issue if they don't let him kick. He isn't that bad of a kicker. GSU's kicker last night is the same kicker that missed all those FGs against us two years ago, if I'm not mistaken.
I was thinking we should have let him kick on our last drive into the red zone once the game was out of hand last night. It would have been a good low pressure time during a game to let him kick. I know it isn't the conventional approach, but at this point I don't care about the norm.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:57 pm

appstate2007 wrote:Someone said that Coach Satt don't show emotion because he was a QB and wants to look cool. IDK about all that but yes Coach Satt is a first year FBS Coach as someone mentioned but so was Georgia Sothern's coach. Don't put stock into either agreement. Coach Satt said many times in the off season that the offense last year was to slow and he wanted to go faster and that they would be going faster this year. Has not happened. Had way to many delay of games flags already due to QB waiting for the call from Coach Satt. Also Coach Satt said in the off season that he would be implementing more under center snaps inside the red zone (yet to see this, there have been plenty of times to use it already thus far). Not trying to bash Coach Satt, just stating the truth. A team gets it attitude from it's coach, and if Coach Satt, is going to "look cool" and not show emotions then you have a team that doesn't show up on game day and that is what happened last night and at Michigan.
I have to respectfully but totally disagree with you - You are not in the locker room nor at practice nor at meetings, none of us are, also, unless you only watch Coach Satterfield during the course of the entire game (and not just see what and when the camera shows him) then you don't know either if he shows emotion --- There aren't many things that get under my skin more than a coach going nuts on the sideline especially in the face of a player ---
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:07 pm

appst89 wrote:It was mentioned last night that people at the game were reporting that Matics appeared to have injured himself on the second extra point. Critcher did the kickoff after that score, so there could be something to that. Not that Satt would have had a tremendous amount of faith in Matics, but if he was hurt that probably helps to explain the going for it on 4th down on the first drive of the third quarter.

In any event, we simply must have a reliable kicker.
You are right Glenn.

Matics was hurt. He has not looked right on video since last week. But tonight even during warmups he looked "stiff". Then he was in on the kick return tackle. Then after the second XP he literally walked off with his head down and "holding" his back. He stretched his groin, tried to "swing" his leg as if to kick and literally could not bend over to pick up the "ball holder" at the kicking net.

When he came back out after the half he was obviously stiff. The trainers kept "stretching" him and at one point put a "patch" on his lower back.

I hope we have an option at kicker somewhere on the roster.

The interesting thing is that critcher never even "tried" to kick into the net other than punt!

Away games we need an emergency option for both punter and kicker.
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:27 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
appst89 wrote:It was mentioned last night that people at the game were reporting that Matics appeared to have injured himself on the second extra point. Critcher did the kickoff after that score, so there could be something to that. Not that Satt would have had a tremendous amount of faith in Matics, but if he was hurt that probably helps to explain the going for it on 4th down on the first drive of the third quarter.

In any event, we simply must have a reliable kicker.
You are right Glenn.

Matics was hurt. He has not looked right on video since last week. But tonight even during warmups he looked "stiff". Then he was in on the kick return tackle. Then after the second XP he literally walked off with his head down and "holding" his back. He stretched his groin, tried to "swing" his leg as if to kick and literally could not bend over to pick up the "ball holder" at the kicking net.

When he came back out after the half he was obviously stiff. The trainers kept "stretching" him and at one point put a "patch" on his lower back.

I hope we have an option at kicker somewhere on the roster.

The interesting thing is that critcher never even "tried" to kick into the net other than punt!

Away games we need an emergency option for both punter and kicker.
How many players do we actually get to take to away games?
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by Kick aaa » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:35 pm

Actually before the second half started Critcher kiçked several field goals with Simms holding! He warmed up for 10 minutes or so snd made 2 from the 30 which would be 40 yard field goals

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppAttack » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:37 pm

I hit a 47-yarder in high school. At 41, I'm going to the local field tomorrow to see if there's any life left in this old leg.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:57 pm

AppAttack wrote:I hit a 47-yarder in high school. At 41, I'm going to the local field tomorrow to see if there's any life left in this old leg.

Kool! Just don't pull a muscle. ;)
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:58 pm

Question for those that have gone to practice. Has anyone seen the other kickers on our roster kick? Are they viable options in case Matics can't right the ship?

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by GreatAppSt » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:34 pm

appstate2007 wrote: Not trying to bash Coach Satt, just stating the truth. A team gets it attitude from it's coach, and if Coach Satt, is going to "look cool" and not show emotions then you have a team that doesn't show up on game day
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:59 pm

AppSt94 wrote:Question for those that have gone to practice. Has anyone seen the other kickers on our roster kick? Are they viable options in case Matics can't right the ship?
There are two other PK's listed on the roster, surely they've been getting lots of reps in practice since Matics got hurt. Maybe we'll try one of them. Can't be any worse.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:23 pm

appstate2007 wrote:Someone said that Coach Satt don't show emotion because he was a QB and wants to look cool. IDK about all that but yes Coach Satt is a first year FBS Coach as someone mentioned but so was Georgia Sothern's coach. Don't put stock into either agreement. Coach Satt said many times in the off season that the offense last year was to slow and he wanted to go faster and that they would be going faster this year. Has not happened. Had way to many delay of games flags already due to QB waiting for the call from Coach Satt. Also Coach Satt said in the off season that he would be implementing more under center snaps inside the red zone (yet to see this, there have been plenty of times to use it already thus far). Not trying to bash Coach Satt, just stating the truth. A team gets it attitude from it's coach, and if Coach Satt, is going to "look cool" and not show emotions then you have a team that doesn't show up on game day and that is what happened last night and at Michigan.
I said it. He is stays calm on the sidelines and his players do respond to it in a positive way. Taylor Lamb is a perfect example. He stays calm and poised in the pocket and does not get rattled by the moment. KB didn't either. Scott approaches the situation calmly and rationally. I haven't seen him at practice but in the game he doesn't seem to let emotion dictate the reaction.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:54 am

According to the roster we have 4 place kickers on the team. Two are freshmen and Matics is the oldest. I seem to remember in the spring game, there were several times when kicks were done multiple time to allow the different candidates a turn.

All that being said, I think the long snapper and holder situation are contributing to the problem considerably. Against So. Miss Matics seemed to be VERY slow approaching the ball which I assumed meant he didn't have complete confidence that the ball would be in position. After missing multiple times, I am thinking his own confidence is now shaken. This is a real "opportunity" (sorry to all the business types who hear that term over used on a daily basis) for coaching impact, but a short week on the road probably put a serious limitation on the ability to coach out of this. I'm sure that the coaches would have used the magic cure if they had one.

I really hope that the staff can address this issue because, like everyone else is saying, the lack of a kicking game will cost us dearly. I am really hoping we have an internal solution THIS year and don't have to wait for a new recruit.

Matics has skills. I hope he can get past these set backs (whether mental or physical injury) and play the way I know he wants to!

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by Appalachman » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:42 am

Critcher has been listed as the backup PK on the game by game depth charts. Was the kickoff in the 2nd qtr a squib with 0:16 left in the half or an attempt to kick it deep? I believe he can do all three, but would be a little more difficult to hold for yourself.

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