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Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.firemoose wrote:Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
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Theappgrad wrote:Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.firemoose wrote:Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
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I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.
If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.
appgrad wrote:Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.firemoose wrote:Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.
If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.
Don't know anything about Watts as a coach to have a strong opinion either way, but for context, MTSU has five players in the NFL total, according to ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/players?college=150moonshine wrote:Based on MTSU message boards, their fans are not upset about the loss of Watts. Some posters felt he didn't do a great job of developing talent (no WR's in the NFL).
I mean - it's suburban Nashville, so it's not like it's the middle of nowhere! Seems like a good hire - just kind of wonder what else was offered him to make what appears to be a lateral move. AHC role at some point? OC? Time will tell, I guess...JTApps1 wrote:appgrad wrote:Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.firemoose wrote:Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.
If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.
Maybe he was ready for a change or he sees App as having more potential for success than MTSU??? If you have ever been there you would know that it isn't a destination spot!
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.appgrad wrote:I mean - it's suburban Nashville, so it's not like it's the middle of nowhere! Seems like a good hire - just kind of wonder what else was offered him to make what appears to be a lateral move. AHC role at some point? OC? Time will tell, I guess...JTApps1 wrote:appgrad wrote:Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.firemoose wrote:Official now:firemoose wrote:![]()
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....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.
If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.
Maybe he was ready for a change or he sees App as having more potential for success than MTSU??? If you have ever been there you would know that it isn't a destination spot!
Agree there...pretty much just the place we stop to walk our dog when we're driving from Atlanta to Kansas City! They do have a Penn Station East Coast Subs, I think...JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.
Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.moonshine wrote:Based on MTSU message boards, their fans are not upset about the loss of Watts. Some posters felt he didn't do a great job of developing talent (no WR's in the NFL). I believe I read that he was making around $90k. Below is a breakdown of where MTSU receiving and rushing ranked. I included rushing as a comparison since a top ranked rushing attack may impact the receiving results a la GaSo.
Year---Rec---Rush
2006 - 99th 39th
2007 - 88th 86th
2008 - 45th 105th
2009 - 36th 23rd
2010 - 80th 32nd
2011 - 56th 79th
2012 - 91st 55th
2013 - 83rd 31st
2014 - 85th 39th
avg----73rd--54th
App
2014 - 83rd 25th
Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home!JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.
Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Honestly I think the really interesting thing to note about our coaching staff is that there has been ONLY 1 person move in the last two years.....THAT IS REMARKABLE!.....and he had no choice based on the opportunity.APPARJ wrote: I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.
But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.
One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
No doubt that their attitude means little. I was just reporting what I read. And if what their fans say is true, it may not matter one bit if the run game continues to be as productive. We may not have to throw the ball!APPARJ wrote:I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.
But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.
One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
No disrespect toward Salisbury intended! Just pointing out a distance!asutrnr81 wrote:Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home!JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.
Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Agree. Everyone seems committed to the task... And definitely think Stepp still here if his mentor doesn't get a pretty good Head Coach gig.asutrnr81 wrote:Honestly I think the really interesting thing to note about our coaching staff is that there has been ONLY 1 person move in the last two years.....THAT IS REMARKABLE!.....and he had no choice based on the opportunity.APPARJ wrote: I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.
But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.
One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
All good just poking some fun....JTApps1 wrote:No disrespect toward Salisbury intended! Just pointing out a distance!asutrnr81 wrote:Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home!JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.
Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.