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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by firemoose » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:42 pm

firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
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http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by appgrad » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:25 am

firemoose wrote:
firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Official now:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.

I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.

If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by moonshine » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:13 am

Based on MTSU message boards, their fans are not upset about the loss of Watts. Some posters felt he didn't do a great job of developing talent (no WR's in the NFL). I believe I read that he was making around $90k. Below is a breakdown of where MTSU receiving and rushing ranked. I included rushing as a comparison since a top ranked rushing attack may impact the receiving results a la GaSo.

Year---Rec---Rush
2006 - 99th 39th
2007 - 88th 86th
2008 - 45th 105th
2009 - 36th 23rd
2010 - 80th 32nd
2011 - 56th 79th
2012 - 91st 55th
2013 - 83rd 31st
2014 - 85th 39th

avg----73rd--54th

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2014 - 83rd 25th
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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by firemoose » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:37 am

appgrad wrote:
firemoose wrote:
firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Official now:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.

I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.

If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.
The :D wasn't because of the hire but because I knew he was official before it was announced. I know several people (faculty) that were at the recruit lunch and he sat with one of them during a program talk with one of our commits. Personally I don't have enough information to judge how he is going to be as a WR coach in our offense but I choose to trust our coach and his hires. Only time will tell exactly what happens.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:39 am

appgrad wrote:
firemoose wrote:
firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Official now:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.

I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.

If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.

Maybe he was ready for a change or he sees App as having more potential for success than MTSU??? If you have ever been there you would know that it isn't a destination spot!

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:44 am

moonshine wrote:Based on MTSU message boards, their fans are not upset about the loss of Watts. Some posters felt he didn't do a great job of developing talent (no WR's in the NFL).
Don't know anything about Watts as a coach to have a strong opinion either way, but for context, MTSU has five players in the NFL total, according to ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/players?college=150

By that rationale, most of their position coaches have been disappointments.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by appgrad » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:51 am

JTApps1 wrote:
appgrad wrote:
firemoose wrote:
firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Official now:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.

I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.

If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.

Maybe he was ready for a change or he sees App as having more potential for success than MTSU??? If you have ever been there you would know that it isn't a destination spot!
I mean - it's suburban Nashville, so it's not like it's the middle of nowhere! Seems like a good hire - just kind of wonder what else was offered him to make what appears to be a lateral move. AHC role at some point? OC? Time will tell, I guess...

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:00 am

appgrad wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:
appgrad wrote:
firemoose wrote:
firemoose wrote::D :D :D ....I'll just leave it at that for a little while.
Official now:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =209857617
Pouring cold water here...but I am kind of wondering why this guy was available, unless we bumped WR coach pay substantially. What we were paying Stepp isn't exactly the kind of money a guy who is 12 years into his coaching career is looking for. Possible MTSU pays their assitants like crap, I suppose...but doubt he would stick around 9 years, if so. Stockstill makes $800k+ there.

I will say, though, Satterfield isn't afraid to be aggressive in his hires...so I could be completely off base in what he offered Watts.

If you'll remember, Alvis Whitted was our original WR coach before Jim McElwain poached him for Colorado State. Looks like Mike Bobo kept him around there as well.

Maybe he was ready for a change or he sees App as having more potential for success than MTSU??? If you have ever been there you would know that it isn't a destination spot!
I mean - it's suburban Nashville, so it's not like it's the middle of nowhere! Seems like a good hire - just kind of wonder what else was offered him to make what appears to be a lateral move. AHC role at some point? OC? Time will tell, I guess...
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.

Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by appgrad » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:07 am

JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.

Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Agree there...pretty much just the place we stop to walk our dog when we're driving from Atlanta to Kansas City! They do have a Penn Station East Coast Subs, I think... :)

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by Goapps15 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:58 am

MTSU is very similar of the mold of GA State and UNC Charlotte. They are a huge commuter school and it is not that scenic of an area. I am assuming he had enough of his time in Murfreesboro and wanted something new.

He probably sees App as a much better opportunity to enhance his career and move up the coaching ladder. App has had a great track record of moving coaches up in the industry. There is more respect for Apps program than MTSU's and it is not even close.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by APPARJ » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:52 pm

moonshine wrote:Based on MTSU message boards, their fans are not upset about the loss of Watts. Some posters felt he didn't do a great job of developing talent (no WR's in the NFL). I believe I read that he was making around $90k. Below is a breakdown of where MTSU receiving and rushing ranked. I included rushing as a comparison since a top ranked rushing attack may impact the receiving results a la GaSo.

Year---Rec---Rush
2006 - 99th 39th
2007 - 88th 86th
2008 - 45th 105th
2009 - 36th 23rd
2010 - 80th 32nd
2011 - 56th 79th
2012 - 91st 55th
2013 - 83rd 31st
2014 - 85th 39th

avg----73rd--54th

App
2014 - 83rd 25th
I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.

But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.

One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:34 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.

Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home! ;)
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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:36 pm

APPARJ wrote: I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.

But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.

One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
Honestly I think the really interesting thing to note about our coaching staff is that there has been ONLY 1 person move in the last two years.....THAT IS REMARKABLE!.....and he had no choice based on the opportunity.
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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by moonshine » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:11 pm

APPARJ wrote:I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.

But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.

One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
No doubt that their attitude means little. I was just reporting what I read. And if what their fans say is true, it may not matter one bit if the run game continues to be as productive. We may not have to throw the ball! :lol:

I actually feel it's a good hire and have faith in SS' ability to scout coaching talent. Watts brings several positives with him: 9 years of FBS coaching experience, recruiting coordinator experience and familiarity within our footprint as well as actually playing the WR position at a fairly prestigious program. With App's budget, I just don't see how SS could have done any better.
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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:54 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.

Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home! ;)
No disrespect toward Salisbury intended! Just pointing out a distance!

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by appgrad » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:57 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
APPARJ wrote: I think the attitude of their fans is an almost irrelevant point. Moonshine, I know you're simply reporting what you've seen so I'm not commenting on anything you said.

But I think it's irrelevant because if you checked out MMB between the A&T football game in '13 and the Liberty game this year, you would think no one on our staff would work in football again.

One thing that I believe Scott Satterfield has proven is the ability to identify good coaches and good players. There is no reason for me to think that Coach Watts will be anything but a great addition to the staff.
Honestly I think the really interesting thing to note about our coaching staff is that there has been ONLY 1 person move in the last two years.....THAT IS REMARKABLE!.....and he had no choice based on the opportunity.
Agree. Everyone seems committed to the task... And definitely think Stepp still here if his mentor doesn't get a pretty good Head Coach gig.

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Re: New WR Coach?

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:53 am

JTApps1 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:
Calling it suburban Nashville is a bit of a stretch. Murfreesboro is 45 min away from downtown which is like being in Stateville or Salisbury compared to Charlotte.

Plus, I wasn't just referring to it's proximity to a big city. It's just not a very scenic place to be.
Easy "Buster".....talking about Salisbury is getting close to home! ;)
No disrespect toward Salisbury intended! Just pointing out a distance!
All good just poking some fun....
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