SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by TheMackAttack » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:02 am

Yosef10 wrote:
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Yosef10 wrote:Everything I've read has Houston pegged as the Bug12s top choice with BYU next on the list. The TV market thing doesn't really hold water with the Big12 seeing as they added WVU.

West Virginia did add TVs, the whole state of West Virginia (nearly 1.8 million people) and Pittsburgh (the 23rd largest media market in America). Houston adds the exact same number of televisions to the conference as you would add if you made me the 11th member. Zero. BYU and Cincinnati are probably the top choices with Memphis, UConn, UCF, and USF further down the list.
How does a university in a city of north of 2.2 million people not add TVs compared to WVU? And are there not major media markets in and around the region, just like Pittsburgh to WVU?

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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:30 am

TheMackAttack wrote:
Yosef10 wrote:
TheMackAttack wrote:
Yosef10 wrote:Everything I've read has Houston pegged as the Bug12s top choice with BYU next on the list. The TV market thing doesn't really hold water with the Big12 seeing as they added WVU.

West Virginia did add TVs, the whole state of West Virginia (nearly 1.8 million people) and Pittsburgh (the 23rd largest media market in America). Houston adds the exact same number of televisions to the conference as you would add if you made me the 11th member. Zero. BYU and Cincinnati are probably the top choices with Memphis, UConn, UCF, and USF further down the list.
How does a university in a city of north of 2.2 million people not add TVs compared to WVU? And are there not major media markets in and around the region, just like Pittsburgh to WVU?

You're not serious...
2 of the top 10 nationwide markets, just in TX alone. Plus Big12 isn't CUSA, they don't decide solely on TV markets and WVU is evidence of that.

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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by WVAppsfan » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:32 am

And adding Coastal was a positive move?
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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by TheMackAttack » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:07 am

Yosef10 wrote:
TheMackAttack wrote:
Yosef10 wrote:
TheMackAttack wrote:
Yosef10 wrote:Everything I've read has Houston pegged as the Bug12s top choice with BYU next on the list. The TV market thing doesn't really hold water with the Big12 seeing as they added WVU.

West Virginia did add TVs, the whole state of West Virginia (nearly 1.8 million people) and Pittsburgh (the 23rd largest media market in America). Houston adds the exact same number of televisions to the conference as you would add if you made me the 11th member. Zero. BYU and Cincinnati are probably the top choices with Memphis, UConn, UCF, and USF further down the list.
How does a university in a city of north of 2.2 million people not add TVs compared to WVU? And are there not major media markets in and around the region, just like Pittsburgh to WVU?

You're not serious...
2 of the top 10 nationwide markets, just in TX alone. Plus Big12 isn't CUSA, they don't decide solely on TV markets and WVU is evidence of that.

I'm well aware of the tv markets in Texas seeing as I was a resident of that state until last week. The point is that the Big 12 has already saturated the markets in Texas with 4 teams and adding a fifth one does nothing. It makes no sense at all to add more pieces of pie without making the pie bigger. Houston doesn't make the pie bigger.
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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by WVAppsfan » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:27 am

Adding Coastal was the right move for whom?
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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:27 pm

Agreed, I think the more topical discussion is regarding how either of the proposed changes would affect the Sun Belt. I shall address that below, however first to the Houston question.

I know it would be a cold day in Hell before the ACC would seriously consider adding EZU, no matter how good EZU football could get, or how big Greenville grew (both highly unlikely). I strongly believe the same could be said for App St and UNC-Charlotte. The in-state ACC teams do not want anymore in-state, and definitely the out of state teams are already grumpy about 4 teams being in NC. I don't think it's a far assumption to say the Big12 sits in a similar position with Texas teams and adding more to their slate. I agree, Boise St, Cincy, and BYU are more likely targets. I could even see the Big 12 going after low hanging PAC12 fruit before heading to Houston.

Closer to home, I would be curious to see how the Sun Belt would react to the growing need for a conference title game. For competition and strength of schedule sake, I'd prefer seeing the Sun Belt poach a team from the MAC or even the MWC instead of getting another newly promoted program.
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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:46 pm

MtnDevil95 wrote: Closer to home, I would be curious to see how the Sun Belt would react to the growing need for a conference title game. For competition and strength of schedule sake, I'd prefer seeing the Sun Belt poach a team from the MAC or even the MWC instead of getting another newly promoted program.
Well sure... but the question is, why would any of those teams make such a move?

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Re: SEC against Big 12/ACC Championship Game Change

Unread post by newtoasu » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:54 am

I haven't seen this posted yet. It looks like the NCAA made the change allowing conferences with less than 12 teams to hold an end of season Championship game. However, the conditions on which conferences can do this would force the Sun Belt to split into two equal (or close to equal) divisions. This should put a damper on move ups since the Big 12 is not forced to take other teams at the time.

How would the Sun Belt split into two "as equally balanced as possible" divisions?

According to the Dallas Morning News:

Rule change

The legislative language approved Wednesday by the 10 FBS conferences on what is required to hold a football title game:

-- A game between division champions of a member conference that is divided into two divisions (as equally balanced as possible), each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division.

-- Or, a game between the top two teams in the conference standings following a full round-robin regular-season schedule of competition among all members of the conference.


http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college ... titute-one

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