Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by boonetown1 » Tue May 03, 2016 3:09 pm

Please, just no one give them ammunition from the apps side. Like the article written a week before the Clemson game last year. Let's just keep quiet this year and try to sneak up.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by S.Lewis15 » Tue May 03, 2016 4:02 pm

We aren't sneaking up on anyone. Especially since 2007.

O line is our biggest question mark heading into next season, but I trust our coaches to get the players ready.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by WVAppsfan » Tue May 03, 2016 4:13 pm

In the words of someone not so famous, meant to the DC @ Tennessee, " Just play the dang game",
"Always give your all"

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by Rekdiver » Tue May 03, 2016 4:30 pm

Well I'll say... We don't know what we don't know.....when the season starts we will know for sure.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by Appsolutely » Tue May 03, 2016 4:46 pm

I assume the intent of the DC's comment was to indicate that nobody will run the ball EFFECTIVELY against them. If their defense is good enough do that, in the SEC, then they will have one helluva year. But I ain't drinkin the kool-aid...not yet, anyway.
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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Tue May 03, 2016 10:19 pm

I don't think Tennessee is going to overlook us. They will easily see we went 11-2 last year, had a balanced offense and strong defense. They will respect us so IF we compete it will be because our guys played straight up mistake free ball on day one. We cannot afford a series of mental mistakes as primarily Lamb committed at Clemson last year. We cannot run the ball out of bounds uncontested when we need a first down like one of our receivers did. The entire team has to play four complete quarters to be competitive. We have the team to do it but they have to deliver.

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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:37 am

I am convinced that Taylor Lamb learned a lot from the Clemson game about what to do with the football under pressure. If we can avoid the BAD turnovers we have a shot to be competitive. I also believe that one of our 3 backs will have a good day.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by ashugh » Wed May 04, 2016 5:43 am

The only way we run the ball on them is by being able, for the first time in years, to pass the ball early and often to loosen their defense. It will have to be a completely different offense than we've seen from our receivers and QB if we can run the ball.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Wed May 04, 2016 8:12 am

EastHallApp wrote:
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Rushing yards versus Clemson last year

Syracuse 242
App State 202
Florida State 197
South Carolina 181
Boston College 159
North Carolina 142
Alabama 138
NC State 135
Wofford 123
Notre Dame 111
Georgia Tech 71
Oklahoma 67
Miami 53
Wake Forest 39
Louisville 19
Misleading statistics. Our run was shut down the entire first half. Cox had a nice run to end the 1st half, however App had the ball in their own territory, with less than a minute. Safe to say Clemson was in a prevent. Second half, game was already in hand for Clemson, and they had some second stringers in by the middle of the 3rd quarter.

Now I know these statistics favor the case for App with regards to Shoop's comments, however let's be fair.
You could probably apply that scenario to most of Clemson's opponents last year
Not really - from the top of that list down:

Beat Syracuse by 10.

Beat FSU by 10 (tied after 3Q).

Beat South Carolina by 5.

Beat BC by 17 (7 pt. game at half)

Beat UNC by 8

Lost to Alabama

Beat State by 15 (6 pt. game at half)
15-7=8. 8 is still considered most.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed May 04, 2016 8:30 am

ashugh wrote:The only way we run the ball on them is by being able, for the first time in years, to pass the ball early and often to loosen their defense. It will have to be a completely different offense than we've seen from our receivers and QB if we can run the ball.
Obviously we are getting an early start on the "what we have to do to win" discussion and I'm sure we will have multiple threads and extensive (hopefully fun) discussions down the road. Long way til that first week and a hot dry summer in between but I think the key will be if our receivers can get off the line and get open for some type of underneath stuff to move the chains. A team like UT with their 4 and 5 star DB's will not respect our receivers and will most likely play single coverage due to a lack of fear. They will stack the box with 7 or 8 guys believing that there is no need for two deep safety help- at least that is my non professional analysis. As with any of the big boys we will have to find a way to loosen them up so that we can establish the run. Our O-line will be under a considerable amount of pressure from what will most certainly be a stacked box and from a bunch of blitz packages. Oh yeah and they might be just a little fired up with 100K in crazed orange and white fans. Should be fun.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Wed May 04, 2016 8:33 am

Not knocking Simms or Bobo, because I love those guys and hey - they NFL deals, but we do have some decent sized guys waiting in the wide receiver ranks to see the field that will help a lot against bigger DBs that are at places like Clemson and/or Tennessee.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed May 04, 2016 8:49 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Rushing yards versus Clemson last year

Syracuse 242
App State 202
Florida State 197
South Carolina 181
Boston College 159
North Carolina 142
Alabama 138
NC State 135
Wofford 123
Notre Dame 111
Georgia Tech 71
Oklahoma 67
Miami 53
Wake Forest 39
Louisville 19
Misleading statistics. Our run was shut down the entire first half. Cox had a nice run to end the 1st half, however App had the ball in their own territory, with less than a minute. Safe to say Clemson was in a prevent. Second half, game was already in hand for Clemson, and they had some second stringers in by the middle of the 3rd quarter.

Now I know these statistics favor the case for App with regards to Shoop's comments, however let's be fair.
You could probably apply that scenario to most of Clemson's opponents last year
Not really - from the top of that list down:

Beat Syracuse by 10.

Beat FSU by 10 (tied after 3Q).

Beat South Carolina by 5.

Beat BC by 17 (7 pt. game at half)

Beat UNC by 8

Lost to Alabama

Beat State by 15 (6 pt. game at half)
15-7=8. 8 is still considered most.
Grasping hard at that straw, huh?

I stopped halfway down because those were the teams that had comparative success running the ball against them. And because I didn't want to look up the halftime score for every game. But...

Beat Notre Dame by 2

Beat Oklahoma by 20 (trailed by 1 at half)

Beat Louisville by 3

10 games were unequivocally close in the second half. Georgia Tech and Wake were 20+ point games at half, though not quite as bad as our game. App, Wofford and Miami were the only ones that were absolutely over at halftime.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by Wally » Wed May 04, 2016 8:57 am

Saint3333 wrote:We lost an All-SBC C and LT that just signed a FA contract in the NFL. Until we solidify the center position I'm not going to claim we can run the ball on IMO a top 10 defense next year (16th last year). They gave up 13 rushing TDs playing in the SEC.

This could look more like the Clemson game than we'd like it to. I think they can be a dark horse for the SEC title and in the discussion for playoffs.

But hey they play the game on the field not on paper and I will be routing for a huge upset.
I sat and watched our Offense go into complete hibernation when Chapman went out against Arky State last season, so I'm really pulling for Tobias Edge-Campbell to be the man this year. If he delivers, our offense should move the ball just fine. We bring back size at T with Beau Nunn and Colby Gossett, those two are huge! Parker Collins is still a lot of fun to watch as he pancakes guys all over the field, and Jamie Collman is always solid. If these guys gel and the young WR crew is as good as advertised... look out!

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by The Rock » Wed May 04, 2016 9:04 am

Does anyone know Nunn's status. Saw him walking a month or so ago, still appeared to have a noticeable limp, which is concerning this long after the injury. Is he set to return at full speed for fall practice?

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by High Country Student » Wed May 04, 2016 9:08 am

Lets just throw this out there. Everyou season Tennessee is overhyped in the preseason and they always disappoint their fans. Hope they're ready for some more disappointment because we will be running the ball early and often on them. We may not win but we will definitely run on them.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Wed May 04, 2016 2:47 pm

I know and agree that UT generally gets too much hype going into the football season, but this year's Vols are shaping up to be as good as any team out of Knoxville in decades. I don't think it's a stretch for them to compete for the (relatively weak) SEC East and put themselves in a position to make the conversation on the CFP. They have a stud under center and their defense should finish among the nation's top 10-15.

Now having said that, Taylor Lamb made the Sporting News Top 25 QBs in 2016, and I think it was the Bleacher Report that listed App State in their "Way Too Early Top 15 Defenses Going into 2016."

I was not surprised at the score of the Clemson game. I was unpleasantly surprised by the melt down that lead to the score. While I agree Lamb learned from the Clemson game, I think he GREW during the Bowl Game. Similar melt down with a grown man 2nd half reaction.

6 guys gone to NFL contracts, that a boat load of talent to replace for a P5 program, but I am cautiously optimistic that Satterfield and company have done just that. First game of the season and the O-line will be tested, the new starting WR will be tested. But so will this Tennessee QB and offense be tested by our defense.

I'm not going to make a "way too early" prediction, but I'm not scared of this game and I don't think anyone (fan, coach, player) should be scared or worried about this game.
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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed May 04, 2016 3:27 pm

It's entirely possible Tennessee will underachieve again, but that tends to show up in SEC play rather than against G5 opponents. For example, that "overhyped" UT team last year opened the season by beating eventual MAC champion Bowling Green 59-30.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:45 pm

EastHallApp wrote:It's entirely possible Tennessee will underachieve again, but that tends to show up in SEC play rather than against G5 opponents. For example, that "overhyped" UT team last year opened the season by beating eventual MAC champion Bowling Green 59-30.
Is that the same Bowling Green that Georgia Southern beat in the bowl game 58-27.
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Unread post by appbio91 » Wed May 04, 2016 7:59 pm

Longrifle28 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:It's entirely possible Tennessee will underachieve again, but that tends to show up in SEC play rather than against G5 opponents. For example, that "overhyped" UT team last year opened the season by beating eventual MAC champion Bowling Green 59-30.
Is that the same Bowling Green that Georgia Southern beat in the bowl game 58-27.
No that team had their coaching staff in place.

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Re: Tennessee DC " No one will run the football on us"

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed May 04, 2016 10:49 pm

That Bowling Green team, despite the head coach going to Syracuse, had three weeks to prepare for the option and let Favian Upshaw run wild on them. The same guy we made looks like a JV player, although that was also under Fritz, who had him try to pass the ball for some insane reason.

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