Interesting App UT prediction

[appbio91]

I am considering full FBS era that started last year.


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[firemoose]

I am considering full FBS era that started last year.

91. This isn't directed at you but the ones you were responding to:

Still not there yet. It will be two more years before we're truly a full FBS program. I said this in another thread but since the comparisons are still being used being full FBS is when all your recruiting classes are non transitional FBS classes and the 4th one has at least one year of experience, whether as So's or RS Fr. We are considered full FBS now overall but from a player/recruiting standpoint we've still got a little ways to go. I plan to withhold my judgement on our performance against P5's until then.

[CVAPP]

Still not there yet. It will be two more years before we're truly a full FBS program. I said this in another thread but since the comparisons are still being used being full FBS is when all your recruiting classes are non transitional FBS classes and the 4th one has at least one year of experience, whether as So's or RS Fr. We are considered full FBS now overall but from a player/recruiting standpoint we've still got a little ways to go. I plan to withhold my judgement on our performance against P5's until then.

Then so will I. Thanks for the perspective! I have every reason to believe we will lack coaching continuity when we get to that point with the roster. The stink is suffering from from the the same roster situation and already has experienced plenty of coaching continuity dilemmas. We are indeed fortunate!

[firemoose]

You are right CV. I didn't address that situation because it's an unknown but it will become an issue in time. I just wanted to make the point to everyone that just because a team is considered FBS after the two year transition doesn't make them a true FBS program. It take time to recruit and fill your roster with full FBS classes. There have been several threads recently discussing our lack of success against FBS teams and P5's in particular. Since the split they have been at a higher level than us so I look at those stats with that in mind. We'll see how we do once we reach the talent and depth of a full FBS program. As for the staff, from conversations I've had, I don't believe the entire staff will leave with Satt unless it's a perfect situation. Those don't come along often and hopefully, by keeping some of the current staff, that will ease the difficulties that are inherent with coaching changes. It's something that we can't control and it will happen. We've only had two HC's since 1989. That doesn't often happen at our level and we'll see if our program and tradition can keep things together once turnover happens. We've done pretty well since 1928 with very few losing seasons and very few HC's under .500. Hopefully, as turnover happens, we can find the right people moving forward to keep the program pointed in the right direction.

[CVAPP]

I am thinking Stu Holt if he is still around and available at the time.

[AtlAppMan]

One area of defense that we need to work on is when the opponent hurries up the tempo. We got into serious trouble last year when this happened against Clemson, Troy and StAte. All of them smelled blood in the water and pounced. In all three instances we had no answer. We did much better when we were the aggressor but when we got on the ground on our backs we weren't good at getting back on our feet. We have to solve that weakness as I would expect all good teams we play this year to take notice and have a very aggressive game plan against us.

I will bet serious money that Tennessee uses this approach so we better be prepared for the onslaught. If our D can absorb the onslaught then it can work in our favor for our offensive response. But we have to be able to get stops and get them off the field.

[bigdaddyg]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

[AppinVA]

Beating the CHeaters would be a huge upset. Ga Tech depends on what year it is. They run hot and cold...at the same time, seemingly. For some of those teams, it might be a mild upset at best, and the others, I'd be disappointed if we lost.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

Depends on where they rank at the time we play.

[bigdaddyg]

Beating the CHeaters would be a huge upset. Ga Tech depends on what year it is. They run hot and cold...at the same time, seemingly. For some of those teams, it might be a mild upset at best, and the others, I'd be disappointed if we lost.

That's kind of where I was going with it. With regards to our current program versus P5's and top G5's right now how would we shake it down? I use categories such as:

Expected win
Mild upset
Big upset
Monumental upset

Agree with a program such as GA Tech. They could be a 9-3 team or a 4-8. Not consistent. Also agree with Moose. We really need two more classes to get to the true FBS level. As long as we don't become a roller coaster type program I will be happy.

[bigdaddyg]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

Depends on where they rank at the time we play.

That obviously goes without saying. I tried to pick schools that don't typically set the world on fire on a yearly basis.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

Depends on where they rank at the time we play.

That obviously goes without saying. I tried to pick schools that don't typically set the world on fire on a yearly basis.

I would not consider any of the teams listed as huge upsets. I also think that the way G5 schools are beating teams like this annually takes away from the upset factor.

[APPdiesel]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

Depends on where they rank at the time we play.

That obviously goes without saying. I tried to pick schools that don't typically set the world on fire on a yearly basis.

I would not consider any of the teams listed as huge upsets. I also think that the way G5 schools are beating teams like this annually takes away from the upset factor.

However we'd still be happy to beat those teams. We've had a knack for playing top teams on their way back up to greatness (not always, but more often than not).

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[appst89]

Out of all the teams on that list, I'd love to play Washington State. Mike Leach is one of my favorite coaches. Would be fun to see Wazzu in Boone.

[EastHallApp]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

No monumental upsets here. Based on where the programs stand today, I'd sort them like this:

Solid favorite
Wake Forest
Kansas
Purdue


Slight favorite
BC
Iowa State
Maryland
Rutgers
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Memphis (I expect them to fall off significantly this year with Fuente and Lynch gone)

Toss-up
Syracuse
Virginia
NC State
Indiana
Illinois
Minnesota
Kentucky

Mild upset
Georgia Tech
Pitt
Northwestern
Washington State
Boise State

Big upset
UNC (I know people won't like this, but the truth is they are much better right now than all but about three of the P5s listed here)
Houston

[bigdaddyg]

All this talk has me thinking about another side to this discussion. If we lined up against and beat the following P5's (quick and dirty list), would it be considered a "huge" upset?

Wake
Syracuse
Virginia
GA Tech
BC
Pitt
UNC
NCSU
Kansas
Iowa St
Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Illinois
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Washington State
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Also, what G5 win would fall under that category? Houston, Memphis or Boise?

No monumental upsets here. Based on where the programs stand today, I'd sort them like this:

Solid favorite
Wake Forest
Kansas
Purdue


Slight favorite
BC
Iowa State
Maryland
Rutgers
Colorado
Vanderbilt
Memphis (I expect them to fall off significantly this year with Fuente and Lynch gone)

Toss-up
Syracuse
Virginia
NC State
Indiana
Illinois
Minnesota
Kentucky

Mild upset
Georgia Tech
Pitt
Northwestern
Washington State
Boise State

Big upset
UNC (I know people won't like this, but the truth is they are much better right now than all but about three of the P5s listed here)
Houston

That's a pretty good take. Puts a lot of P5's in perspective. Now go back to our best FCS team and do the same thing. Probably going to be way different. Shows why we shouldn't be consumed with past performance

[appfan22]

The play call that really got our offense going against Clemson (until the end zone interception) was the HB screen to Upshaw. I am not saying be overly deceptive, but the play calling needs to be creative if we hope to move the ball against a talented SEC defense.

[Goapps15]

I consider it a successful day if the game is not over by halftime. We have not done that in these games very often recently.

We have alot of talent and good coaches but we have to be willing to throw the kitchen sink at teams like Miami or Tennessee in order to compete. Playing with the mentality of nothing to lose would help greatly.

[MDaniels84]

I consider it a successful day if the game is not over by halftime. We have not done that in these games very often recently.

We have alot of talent and good coaches but we have to be willing to throw the kitchen sink at teams like Miami or Tennessee in order to compete. Playing with the mentality of nothing to lose would help greatly.

I agree with this to an extent. Our defense is actually athletic enough to keep up (speed and strength) with programs like Tenn, Miami, and others. I wholeheartedly wish that Coach Woody turns his horses loose a little and dials up some aggressive packages when needed in order to keep these bigger programs on their heels. Can't wait for this season to begin !

[MountaineerChemist10]

We were predicted to lose vs. Michigan, didn't happen. Predicted to lose vs. Ohio at the Camellia Bowl game, didn't happen. 2015 Panthers predicted to go 8-8, didn't happen. I don't ever pay attention to journalist's predictions.