Moral Victory?

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:09 pm

If the cramps were so selective and convenient, then why was our preseason conference DPOY linebacker one who had to repeatedly leave the field, chug Gatorade and get treatment on the sideline? Why not a lineman who was ready to sub out anyway?

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:09 pm

You were doing fine until you made the fake cramp comments. Did you see the trainers working the players on the sidelines? And the DB who"taunted" the crowd was responding to the boos asking for more. And if you didn't notice our QB got cramps on the last play of regulation. So good luck to the Vols but do t bring that crap in here. We don't operate that way.

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by appbio91 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:20 pm

So we bitched out and the refs (SEC refs) cheated. Okay thanks for the compliments....

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Unread post by appbio91 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:23 pm

EastHallApp wrote:If the cramps were so selective and convenient, then why was our preseason conference DPOY linebacker one who had to repeatedly leave the field, chug Gatorade and get treatment on the sideline? Why not a lineman who was ready to sub out anyway?
This! Law was on the sidelines during a critical series late. He's just poopy pants faker I guess.

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:32 pm

FairShake wrote:Greetings Mountaineers! More than likely this is the first and last post I will make here. I lurked your board as an unregistered visitor for 1-2 months. Mostly because I didn't know much of anything about you. Except that you are that school that humbled Michigan and Phil Fulmer hired your OC, if I recall right. In any case, I came to express respect for your team playing well enough to win. Like many other Vols fans I expected us to blow you out. You are a heck of a team and I'll be more than just surprised if you lose another game this season. I honestly think you can whip some P5 schools. The first among them is likely to be Miami. I dare say you would likely beat up more than just one school in the P12, SEC or Big 10. Not just flapping my lips. That defense of yours which I thought UT would push and shove around is STRONG, FAST, and man, oh man, well coached. They know how to tackle, hit, wrap up a player and get his rear end on the ground, and how! Go get those remaining wins and including whatever bowl you're sure to be in.
Now, another reason I'm posting is to hopefully correct a misunderstanding. UT fans were not booing your players because they got hurt (cramps) nor anything close to that. I along with many viewed the cramping as a cheap tactic to give your defense a breather. UT plays a fast tempo game and each time we seem to be getting into gear, one of your players had "cramps." I commented to another an if your men were experiencing menstrual periods or something. One after the other and ALWAYS your defense. Your offense players never cramped. The tactic was so obvious and the effect of slowing us down just as we were getting in tempo and progressing we get fed up with it. Thus the boos. Now, of course you can deny this is what your players were doing but we didn't see it that way. It was just too obvious timing-wise and selective-wise. Then the cramped player would become miraculously fine. One of your players even got up and taunted us by waving while walking off the field without a hint of a cramp. It was a cheap tactic and not even remotely hidden as such. UT doesn't boo hurt players. Know why? If it can happen to your opponent it can happen to us. Georgia had a similar misunderstanding last year when Nick Chubb got hurt. On seeing Vols fans clapping, they accused us of celebrating his injury. That wasn't true. We clapped because he was up off the ground and mainly OK. No one clapped while he was on the ground as no one was certain what had happened. Or how serious he was injured. Even if it was neck injury, spine injury or something worse. So I tell you from experience, UT fans aren't the devil you think we are. It was the fake cramps we didn't like. Nor did we like the obnoxious referees who did nothing about it despite the behavior repeating itself.
Thank you for your weak attempt at excuses for getting your a$$ whipped by a team fresh out of FCS. You got out coached and out played. On the way home today I listened to the shud, wuda , coulda radio show. It was pathetic. I have never heard so many excuses in my life. The fact of the matter is that with the exception of our kicking game we were just a better team. You booed our cramped players because it frustrated you that you were getting taken to the woodshed on both sides of the ball. The majority of you fans were some of the most unfriendly we have seen. We were treated better by Michigan after we beat them. So don't lecture us about what you don't like. You are just boorish.

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by TheMackAttack » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:38 pm

FairShake wrote:Greetings Mountaineers! More than likely this is the first and last post I will make here. I lurked your board as an unregistered visitor for 1-2 months. Mostly because I didn't know much of anything about you. Except that you are that school that humbled Michigan and Phil Fulmer hired your OC, if I recall right. In any case, I came to express respect for your team playing well enough to win. Like many other Vols fans I expected us to blow you out. You are a heck of a team and I'll be more than just surprised if you lose another game this season. I honestly think you can whip some P5 schools. The first among them is likely to be Miami. I dare say you would likely beat up more than just one school in the P12, SEC or Big 10. Not just flapping my lips. That defense of yours which I thought UT would push and shove around is STRONG, FAST, and man, oh man, well coached. They know how to tackle, hit, wrap up a player and get his rear end on the ground, and how! Go get those remaining wins and including whatever bowl you're sure to be in.
Now, another reason I'm posting is to hopefully correct a misunderstanding. UT fans were not booing your players because they got hurt (cramps) nor anything close to that. I along with many viewed the cramping as a cheap tactic to give your defense a breather. UT plays a fast tempo game and each time we seem to be getting into gear, one of your players had "cramps." I commented to another an if your men were experiencing menstrual periods or something. One after the other and ALWAYS your defense. Your offense players never cramped. The tactic was so obvious and the effect of slowing us down just as we were getting in tempo and progressing we get fed up with it. Thus the boos. Now, of course you can deny this is what your players were doing but we didn't see it that way. It was just too obvious timing-wise and selective-wise. Then the cramped player would become miraculously fine. One of your players even got up and taunted us by waving while walking off the field without a hint of a cramp. It was a cheap tactic and not even remotely hidden as such. UT doesn't boo hurt players. Know why? If it can happen to your opponent it can happen to us. Georgia had a similar misunderstanding last year when Nick Chubb got hurt. On seeing Vols fans clapping, they accused us of celebrating his injury. That wasn't true. We clapped because he was up off the ground and mainly OK. No one clapped while he was on the ground as no one was certain what had happened. Or how serious he was injured. Even if it was neck injury, spine injury or something worse. So I tell you from experience, UT fans aren't the devil you think we are. It was the fake cramps we didn't like. Nor did we like the obnoxious referees who did nothing about it despite the behavior repeating itself.


Yes we "faked" leg injuries to three players with a combined 85 starts between them. Clearly those are the guys you want to be faking injuries and missing plays. I can't decide if I'm more offended that you think we were faking injuries or that you think we would go about it in such a god awful stupid manner.
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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by appbio91 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:41 pm

There has to be a reason they under achieved since that is so uncharacteristic of their great team. Wait...what?

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by hapapp » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:55 pm

I don't think our coaches would have a senior all conference performer fake an injury on three occasions during a critical part of the game so he could take a seat. Clearly your fans are not as bright as your uniforms.

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Unread post by mountaineerman » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:05 pm

Try and simulate the scenario practicing for this game that was in Knoxville yesterday high 80's 70% humidity and whipping yalls ass all over the field!that climate It can't happen in Boone everyday so it doesn't surprise me we were cramping .

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Unread post by appchicago » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:32 am

Yeah, that story checks out, considering UT fans waited until they had a comprehensive injury report before booing. That way they knew it was just fake cramps and nothing more serious.

Now, if fans started booing as soon as a player went down, without a clue about the nature or severity of the injury, that'd be far less classy.

Good thing they didn't do that, eh?

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Unread post by moonshine » Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:35 am

FairShake wrote:Now, another reason I'm posting is to hopefully correct a misunderstanding. UT fans were not booing your players because they got hurt (cramps) nor anything close to that. I along with many viewed the cramping as a cheap tactic to give your defense a breather. UT plays a fast tempo game and each time we seem to be getting into gear, one of your players had "cramps." I commented to another an if your men were experiencing menstrual periods or something. One after the other and ALWAYS your defense. Your offense players never cramped. The tactic was so obvious and the effect of slowing us down just as we were getting in tempo and progressing we get fed up with it. Thus the boos. Now, of course you can deny this is what your players were doing but we didn't see it that way. It was just too obvious timing-wise and selective-wise. Then the cramped player would become miraculously fine. One of your players even got up and taunted us by waving while walking off the field without a hint of a cramp. It was a cheap tactic and not even remotely hidden as such. UT doesn't boo hurt players. Know why? If it can happen to your opponent it can happen to us. Georgia had a similar misunderstanding last year when Nick Chubb got hurt. On seeing Vols fans clapping, they accused us of celebrating his injury. That wasn't true. We clapped because he was up off the ground and mainly OK. No one clapped while he was on the ground as no one was certain what had happened. Or how serious he was injured. Even if it was neck injury, spine injury or something worse. So I tell you from experience, UT fans aren't the devil you think we are. It was the fake cramps we didn't like. Nor did we like the obnoxious referees who did nothing about it despite the behavior repeating itself.
Let me correct a misunderstanding. SEC fans don't know nearly as much about football as they think they do. Hell your "elite" SEC programs rarely play more than 4-5 road games a year while riding Bama, LSU and the Gator's coattails. With all the advantages you boys have, money, facilities, media coverage ect, it has to hurt your pride that App's D kept your Heisman hopefuls in check pretty much the entire game. Do your fans realize that the 2 passes to Malone on one drive accounted for 25% of your total yardage? Let that sink in!

What was classless was Reaves-Mabins b#*ch @$$ targeting our defenseless player on the fair catch punt? Let me guess, none of the 200,000 orange eyeballs saw Capel waves his arm for the fair catch. What's classless are all the UTk keyboard warriors sending our kicker tweets? Go police your own fan base instead of patronizing us with your weak BS.

Keep your backhanded compliment. Your fans are upset because the reality of being overrated set in at halftime when a lowly Sun Belt defense held your "prolific" O to a field goal.

Don't you worry, UTk won't be the only team App beats up on this season so take solace. Your AD has our number anytime you boys want a game but I don't expect we'll hear that phone ring anytime soon.
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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by 87ASUgrad » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:35 am

Screw a moral victory, App should have won that game. We didn't play them just to have a good showing against a ranked team, we went there to win. I believe the cramps were real. It was very hot and humid after the storms came thru Thursday. We were sweating like hell in the stands. We talked with several UT fans after the game and most just told us good luck with the rest of our season and we gave them a good game. The moral victory is behind us now, and we need to learn from it and move on.
Gotta focus on ODU and not look past them now or they may get a win or moral victory of their own.
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Unread post by FairShake » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:00 pm

Saint3333, WVAPPeer moonshine, 87ASUgrad, bcoach I registered to express genuine admiration for your team and to explain why the UT fans booed. I didn't come here to insult anybody. Let me clarify about your team playing well enough to win. The way I see it, you should have won and probably in some ways did win. Given all the hype for UT, we had no business winning but did on the basis of pure dumb luck because it darn sure wasn't due out competing you. So I'm not giving backhanded compliments, you have a legit team that I believe can take on P5 team and win. I very much doubt UT wants a rematch with ASU anytime soon, and we both know why. No backhanded compliment from me. Actually took a miracle of sorts for us to win. Now as for fan behavior and attitude, you guys responses have demonstrated to me obnoxious fans are in every fanbase. I dare say UT fans can be the worst and it even sickens some Vols fans like myself. But believe me, there are other SEC fanbases we don't hold a candle to when it comes being incontestable a-holes. But I didn't come on here to be that type of fan. And just as i and other Vols fans believe the ASU cramping was fake, you can believe I came here with ulterior motives. That sort of makes us even in a manner of speaking. So the clapping was done because we believe your defensive guys were faking. Your offense guys didn't cramp. That's what we believed. But shove all that aside, your team might end up forcing the NCS to take notice of you whether they select you or not. It happened to Boise State, it can happen to you. When BSU got put in a bowl with Oklahoma that little school whipped a perennial college power in front of national TV. I think you guys are on the same path. So again I believe your team I believe your team is the deal. And I'm not here to insult anyone, backhand compliment ASU or in anyway talk down to you. I believe in giving respect where respect is due and will tell you, YES, some Vols fans can't or won't understand that. Now, I'll take my orange bottom off your board but continue to follow your team. And by follow I mean watch you on TV if you're there or Youtube if you're not. It was a privilege to see a team with sound fundamentals, imaginative coaching, and having the heart of a dragon.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:34 pm

Next time stick to the compliments and keep the rest of it to yourself on opponents boards. Good luck the rest of the year.

cramps were legit sorry you can't understand that. Law and Gray are future NFL players the team wouldn't tell them to fake it, use some common sense.

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Re: Moral Victory?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:47 pm

Just watched the replay and they showed Lamb cramping on the sidelines after the last play of regulation. Of course he was on the sidelines at the end of the play so nobody saw it. You honestly think we want John Law and Kenanan Gilchrist to miss multiple plays to stop the clock for a few seconds?

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Unread post by firemoose » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:38 pm

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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:18 pm

mountaineerman wrote:There is no Moral victory in this loss . I personally will give Tennessee no credit after having to sit and listen to 100,000 people booing our injured players at least four times . I have been to a lot of ball games and have never witnessed this .
And the fans cheering a player who just got ejected for a dangerous illegal hit.
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