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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:58 am

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moehler wrote:I dont know how badly he wants to leave, only Charlie can answer that, but the last few years he seemes to have applied at alot more schools. I'm not surprised, or even bothered by it, he just trying to improve his career, and support his family. One thing I do wonder about, has his increased desire to leave, have anything to do with us, at this point, unable to move up? I hope he isn't looking for a way out, becouse he thinks the athletic program has "peaked", and he doesn't see us leaving the SC anytime in the near future.
It could be the opposite. He may not want to be around when we go through the trials and tribulations of transitioning to the FBS.

Anything is possible but Charlie has been one of the movers behind the FBS move.

But a lot of that has been due to outside pressure to do just that.
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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:01 am

Black Saturday wrote:Be careful about being realistic and factual, there are plenty that only see this board as a campfire to sing around.

And there equally or more who use this board to bitch about any and every decision the staff makes...except about CC of course. It works both ways. :!: :!:
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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:06 am

T-Dog wrote:Cobb has had some good hires in Pendleton, Darcie, Strickland and Bentley and has had some monumental projects such as the softball/baseball/indoor facility move, the athletics center and the facilities in Varsity for golf and wrestling. Also he pulled the trigger on the Chris Moore firing and was instrumental in bringing Satterfield back and giving him his power.

I do think Cobb's days on the mountain are mostly past. He's done some great thing but it might not be the worst thing to get some new blood in there. It's clear that men's basketball isn't his cup of tea and has made some poor decisions regarding it.

I don't blame Charlie for putting his name out there for better-paying jobs. He's using his skills to better himself and his family.

RE: Capel. I do think he has to show results this year. If he doesn't get an extension but is retained for his final year, then 2013-14 becomes a lame duck year and it could damage the program even worse than before.

Like all you guys have said, CC has done some monumental things at ASU, but if Basketball performance was football...he'd have been kicked out long ago. App folks will tollerate a mediocre basketball performance but have no patience at all for likewise in gridiron performance.
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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:32 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
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moehler wrote:I dont know how badly he wants to leave, only Charlie can answer that, but the last few years he seemes to have applied at alot more schools. I'm not surprised, or even bothered by it, he just trying to improve his career, and support his family. One thing I do wonder about, has his increased desire to leave, have anything to do with us, at this point, unable to move up? I hope he isn't looking for a way out, becouse he thinks the athletic program has "peaked", and he doesn't see us leaving the SC anytime in the near future.
It could be the opposite. He may not want to be around when we go through the trials and tribulations of transitioning to the FBS.

Anything is possible but Charlie has been one of the movers behind the FBS move.

But a lot of that has been due to outside pressure to do just that.
I don't think he was bending to pressure, I believe it is what he wants.

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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by fjblair » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:34 pm

Cobb has been good, not great. He was gifted the football program, it was going places no matter who was AD. He has had some vision and was able to capitalize on the momentum and money generated by success on the gridiron. Basketball has been largely a failure under CC. He inherited a mediocre program but it remains a mediocre program.

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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:04 pm

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JCline0429 wrote:
hapapp wrote:
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moehler wrote:I dont know how badly he wants to leave, only Charlie can answer that, but the last few years he seemes to have applied at alot more schools. I'm not surprised, or even bothered by it, he just trying to improve his career, and support his family. One thing I do wonder about, has his increased desire to leave, have anything to do with us, at this point, unable to move up? I hope he isn't looking for a way out, becouse he thinks the athletic program has "peaked", and he doesn't see us leaving the SC anytime in the near future.
It could be the opposite. He may not want to be around when we go through the trials and tribulations of transitioning to the FBS.

Anything is possible but Charlie has been one of the movers behind the FBS move.

But a lot of that has been due to outside pressure to do just that.
I don't think he was bending to pressure, I believe it is what he wants.
I didn't say that was why he was an advocate but that I have reason to believe it was a part of his efforts.
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Re: Charlie Cobb

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:06 pm

fjblair wrote:Cobb has been good, not great. He was gifted the football program, it was going places no matter who was AD. He has had some vision and was able to capitalize on the momentum and money generated by success on the gridiron. Basketball has been largely a failure under CC. He inherited a mediocre program but it remains a mediocre program.
I agree but it's mediocre at best. It's been a roller coaster that never actually went up much of a grade.
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