App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:05 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:55 am
Show of hands- who besides me now about says “who cares” as it relates to guys transferring? I would love it if more stayed but frankly this is beyond ridiculous. People have started comparing college football to the NFL. Imagine if every pro player had a one year contract and a third of the league entered free agency.
This is my thought for those that transfer-in, then transfer-out.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:15 am

T-Dog wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:29 pm
Anderson Castle is in the portal, per On3's tracker. Jumped in today.
Didn't someone earlier in the season say they knew Castle was going to transfer and Clark was playing him more to increase his visibility?

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:55 am
Show of hands- who besides me now about says “who cares” as it relates to guys transferring? I would love it if more stayed but frankly this is beyond ridiculous. People have started comparing college football to the NFL. Imagine if every pro player had a one year contract and a third of the league entered free agency.
If it's a big name contributor, I get a little bummed. If it's a guy who hasn't performed all that well, or was second or third string, it doesn't really register with me.
Also, we've had a coaching change. Even before the new rules, players were allowed to transfer after a coaching change without the one year penalty because it's not fair to make a kid play for a coach that didn't recruit him. So, I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised that a lot of guys are transferring out. We will and do have a lot of guys transferring in as well.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:46 am

Guys like Hopper and Roberts were gone either way. Every year we are doing to lose 35-50% of the top 6-8 contributors.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by fjblair » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:57 am

The players are all now mercenaries. The days of players coming to play football at ASU because of the program, the history or the culture are coming to an end. There is no commitment to your team, your teammates or the school. This is a farce.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:00 am

I haven’t used the term “ mercenary “. But I’ve thought about it.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am

The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:13 am

Contract negotiations would vary widely, imagine the variables with terms, buyout dollars, non-competes, etc.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:35 am

That is just like every contract in the corporate world with executives and in sports with coaches. They are professional level employees...that is where we are at, however, the investment in he players over the years is more more than typical employee if one really thinks about. It is an ongoing consulting contract to make players.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by t4pizza » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:43 am

MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:15 am
T-Dog wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:29 pm
Anderson Castle is in the portal, per On3's tracker. Jumped in today.
Didn't someone earlier in the season say they knew Castle was going to transfer and Clark was playing him more to increase his visibility?
I don't remember the part about Clark playing him more to increase visibility, but it was posted that he planned to leave to cash in on NIL. I think Clark played him more because early in the year he was our most productive, he had a monster game at Clemson and I remember many saying that he was our best back after the Clemson game. A couple of dropped passes and limited opportunities turned that view on its head.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:00 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:43 am
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:15 am
T-Dog wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:29 pm
Anderson Castle is in the portal, per On3's tracker. Jumped in today.
Didn't someone earlier in the season say they knew Castle was going to transfer and Clark was playing him more to increase his visibility?
I don't remember the part about Clark playing him more to increase visibility, but it was posted that he planned to leave to cash in on NIL. I think Clark played him more because early in the year he was our most productive, he had a monster game at Clemson and I remember many saying that he was our best back after the Clemson game. A couple of dropped passes and limited opportunities turned that view on its head.
I don't think it was anyone with any legitimacy. They were just opining.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:16 pm

I understand the lure of the Watauga high products, and some play there butts off for App, but there’s more talent off the mountain. Reminds me of Dabo trotting out his son’s, Venable’s son and Pickens county kids over 4 and 5* athletes. Time to up our recruiting game.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by GoBoone » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:49 pm

Damn boys. You know it’s bad when AC enters the portal.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:21 pm

GoBoone wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:49 pm
Damn boys. You know it’s bad when AC enters the portal.
AC walked on senior day. I don’t know him and don’t have any inside info… but I saw it and had the thought he is debating whether he wants to continue playing or not. In such situation, why not put name out there and see if there are any intriguing bites.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:42 pm

311neers wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:16 pm
I understand the lure of the Watauga high products, and some play there butts off for App, but there’s more talent off the mountain. Reminds me of Dabo trotting out his son’s, Venable’s son and Pickens county kids over 4 and 5* athletes. Time to up our recruiting game.
Amen

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:44 pm

GoBoone wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:49 pm
Damn boys. You know it’s bad when AC enters the portal.
Not really a surprise. Word half way through the season was he was going to test the portal at the end of the year or be done all together.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:51 pm

Oh gosh. Kanye Roberts visited Liberty.
Dagger to the chest.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:53 pm

As to Castle. Going to try to see a different part of the country or hang it up. Good kid. Don’t blame him.

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