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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by Appstate88 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:33 pm

Just Win. 1-0 this Wednesday.
GIVE 'EM HELL APPS!

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:36 pm

Rick83 wrote:
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Right now, SMU and Memphis have a leg up but only one of them can advance from the AAC West to the championship. Soooo, if Cincy drops another conference game then it's most likely a 2 loss UCF in the AAC championship game so that would help us in NY6 consideration...very possible scenario. Don't have a feel for the MWC and as has been mentioned, we have to run the table. Damn this is fun...I love just being part of the national conversation!!
Wait, I thought Cincy's loss was in the conference but it was a spanking by Ohio St., so Cincy would have to drop two conference games since they hold the tie breaker over UCF..

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:51 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:36 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:32 pm
Right now, SMU and Memphis have a leg up but only one of them can advance from the AAC West to the championship. Soooo, if Cincy drops another conference game then it's most likely a 2 loss UCF in the AAC championship game so that would help us in NY6 consideration...very possible scenario. Don't have a feel for the MWC and as has been mentioned, we have to run the table. Damn this is fun...I love just being part of the national conversation!!
Wait, I thought Cincy's loss was in the conference but it was a spanking by Ohio St., so Cincy would have to drop two conference games since they hold the tie breaker over UCF..
Or Temple beats Cincy, UCF beats Temple, they all wind up with one loss and tiebreaker chaos ensues.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by t4pizza » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:53 pm

hotrod2001 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:29 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:26 pm
hotrod2001 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:54 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:14 am
I keep a thread like this in the same context as the one I started- undefeated FBS teams. We all fully understand that App won’t be in the playoff no matter what. We all (or should) know that if we go 13-0 we do have a shot at the NY6 game. As with the ranking thing it’s fun to watch the list and just see our name still there (with the unbeaten). Certain goals are only attainable by going 1-0 every week. We should all give ourselves credit for not having a Gamecock thread at least.

There is no way any team from the Sun Belt is going to be in the NY6 conversation.
Not unless Boise State and the upper echelons of the AAC have massive, catastrophic collapses from here on out. Regardless of how good we are, teams in the American are going to get looked at first (which is one reason I really hope we find our way there one of these days). Even then, we'd probably have to run the table for at least two straight seasons to be even given a look.

Right now I'm happy to be in the conversation of being ranked. Like I said, I'm not expecting anything above the top 20, but that little number next to your logo on the tv denotes you as one of the top college teams out there, and gives us validity.
I think this is such a smart post. I actually wonder how many of the CFP committee members could name all the Sun Belt members. I think a conversation about being ranked in the AP or Coach's poll is worth having, but when it turns into a NY6 discussion, I don't get it.
The conference is still considered the doormat of the FCS despite our performance (and at least our bowl records) being better than the other G5 conferences the last couple of years. You can just tell, it's never really mentioned in broadcasts unless a team has an upset or there's a major story like at stAte with the coache's wife. I listen to ESPNU radio all the time and I can say with confidence that UTEP and gets talked about more than our top three teams. Thankfully Mark Packer broadcasts his show out of Charlotte so he gives us, Coastal and Georgia Southern some love, but outside of the "Pack Man" we're just a blip.

It's frustrating because the conference has really been trying to better its image over the last five years. It got itself a new, sleek logo. Brought in App, Georgia Southern and Coastal Carolina...all of which had successful transitions to the FBS, ditched Idaho and NMSU, added a championship game and continue to add bowl tie-ins every year. Yet it still doesn't seem to get any sort of exposure like the other G5 conferences get.

It's one of the reasons I really hope we get an invite to another conference, unfair or not, the SBC just
does not garner the exposure or time spent that the other G5's do. Maybe one of these seasons, App, stAte, Louisiana, Georgia Southern and Coastal will be firing on all cylinders and rack up a large series of P5 upsets and OoC wins that that can change the dialogue, but for right now, the entire league just doesn't get the respect it deserves.
I listen to ESPNU radio everyday and most shows discuss us somewhat. McElroy likes our program and usually has good things to say, not so much this year after Zarzour left but with a couple more wins I suspect it starts again. Rick and the Show Pony talk about us fairly regularly and Rick is always really complementary of our program. Horowitz remembered that we are one of the undefeated G5 today but had nothing to add to that but that is my least favorite show in the lineup. Pack does talk the most about us, but he also gets more calls about us than the other shows. Either way, being in Florida it always makes me happy to hear anything about App State on the radio.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:56 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:51 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:36 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:32 pm
Right now, SMU and Memphis have a leg up but only one of them can advance from the AAC West to the championship. Soooo, if Cincy drops another conference game then it's most likely a 2 loss UCF in the AAC championship game so that would help us in NY6 consideration...very possible scenario. Don't have a feel for the MWC and as has been mentioned, we have to run the table. Damn this is fun...I love just being part of the national conversation!!
Wait, I thought Cincy's loss was in the conference but it was a spanking by Ohio St., so Cincy would have to drop two conference games since they hold the tie breaker over UCF..
Or Temple beats Cincy, UCF beats Temple, they all wind up with one loss and tiebreaker chaos ensues.
That would be beautiful...football gods, please make it so!

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by t4pizza » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:13 pm

That AAC is going to be a mess by the end of the season, Cincy has to play (among others) at Houston, Tulsa, Temple and Memphis and if they get through that a championship game. Temple has to play Memphis, SMU, UCF and if it gets through that a championship game. SMU has Temple, Memphis, Navy, Tulane and if they get through there a championship game. Memphis has Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Cincy and if they get through there a championship game. Those are the teams from AAC that I think could be ranked ahead of us if one wins out and the championship but looking at all of their schedules I don't see any AAC team finishing with less than 2 losses and I don't think a two loss AAC team ranks ahead of us if we win out.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by Seattleapp » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 pm

sfoal308 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:16 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:03 pm
This is a great discussion with our record being 4-0.
I'm enjoying it - glad you are too! Here's to making it 5-0 in 50 hours or so.
Don't you know that us discussing something other than ULL is going to cause the team to lose? Alabama and Clemson have been so good for the past decade because the fans on their message boards only ever post about the upcoming opponent

Honestly do you know anything about any of our opponents or is your Knowledge of the program limited to if we have a number by our name? The discussion is fine and cute but how fast will posters like you disappear if we lose and this conversation becomes even more pointless than it is now?

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by ah59396 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 pm
sfoal308 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:16 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:03 pm
This is a great discussion with our record being 4-0.
I'm enjoying it - glad you are too! Here's to making it 5-0 in 50 hours or so.
Don't you know that us discussing something other than ULL is going to cause the team to lose? Alabama and Clemson have been so good for the past decade because the fans on their message boards only ever post about the upcoming opponent

Honestly do you know anything about any of our opponents or is your Knowledge of the program limited to if we have a number by our name? The discussion is fine and cute but how fast will posters like you disappear if we lose and this conversation becomes even more pointless than it is now?
Honestly it’s sad how much this thread bothers you. Just read and comment in other threads dude. It’s not difficult. What are you, the fan fun police?

Edit: it’s unreal to me how many times we’ve had to say this
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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:47 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 pm
sfoal308 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:16 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:03 pm
This is a great discussion with our record being 4-0.
I'm enjoying it - glad you are too! Here's to making it 5-0 in 50 hours or so.
Don't you know that us discussing something other than ULL is going to cause the team to lose? Alabama and Clemson have been so good for the past decade because the fans on their message boards only ever post about the upcoming opponent

Honestly do you know anything about any of our opponents or is your Knowledge of the program limited to if we have a number by our name? The discussion is fine and cute but how fast will posters like you disappear if we lose and this conversation becomes even more pointless than it is now?
It is not hard to know if we should be ranked based on what happens around us. The whole obsession with being ranked reminds me of a 10 year old who can't wait to get to the candy store. You tell the kid, we will get there when we get there. Same thing here.

I'm sure you agree with me on these two things. #1-0 #BeatULL and we will be ranked when we are ranked. We lose to ULL and there is no chance we finish the season ranked without a lot of help and we would have to win out, including the SBC title game and likely rematch on the road with ULL.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am

ah59396 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 pm
sfoal308 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:16 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:03 pm
This is a great discussion with our record being 4-0.
I'm enjoying it - glad you are too! Here's to making it 5-0 in 50 hours or so.
Don't you know that us discussing something other than ULL is going to cause the team to lose? Alabama and Clemson have been so good for the past decade because the fans on their message boards only ever post about the upcoming opponent

Honestly do you know anything about any of our opponents or is your Knowledge of the program limited to if we have a number by our name? The discussion is fine and cute but how fast will posters like you disappear if we lose and this conversation becomes even more pointless than it is now?
Honestly it’s sad how much this thread bothers you. Just read and comment in other threads dude. It’s not difficult. What are you, the fan fun police?

Edit: it’s unreal to me how many times we’ve had to say this
No he is not. He sees reality. You guys are so worried and obsessed about something way too early. This watch should really start once we got to the 26-29 range and even then it is so early. I mean if we lose to ULL will you not feel like you wasted time? Instead of sharing disappointment and letting it go will you start debating how many weeks it could take us to get back and each win is nothing more than a chance to gain a few more votes?

If we were not great but an opponent in our league had threads like this all the time I would actually laugh out loud when they lose and those idiots had wasted all their time. I'm sure there are fans on other boards who are laughing just as hard about our people obsessing with rankings as we are laughing at ULL fully expecting to blow us out when they have never beaten us.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by SayYesToTheRock » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:05 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am
You guys are so worried and obsessed about something way too early. This watch should really start once we got to the 26-29 range
We're #28 right now, so..... look's like we're good.
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am

I mean if we lose to ULL will you not feel like you wasted time?
Do you know where you are? This is a college sports message board. The entire point is to waste time, and enjoy doing it. Lots of people enjoy following the rankings -- not just here, but at schools across the country.

Do you similarly hate score prediction threads when the scores aren't 100% correct?

I haven't seen you in the Look-Alike threads talking about how much of a waste of time they are.

I'll keep an eye out for your wise counsel in every "time wasting" thread from now on. ;)

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by proasu89 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:20 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am
ah59396 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 pm
sfoal308 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:16 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:10 pm


I'm enjoying it - glad you are too! Here's to making it 5-0 in 50 hours or so.
Don't you know that us discussing something other than ULL is going to cause the team to lose? Alabama and Clemson have been so good for the past decade because the fans on their message boards only ever post about the upcoming opponent

Honestly do you know anything about any of our opponents or is your Knowledge of the program limited to if we have a number by our name? The discussion is fine and cute but how fast will posters like you disappear if we lose and this conversation becomes even more pointless than it is now?
Honestly it’s sad how much this thread bothers you. Just read and comment in other threads dude. It’s not difficult. What are you, the fan fun police?

Edit: it’s unreal to me how many times we’ve had to say this
No he is not. He sees reality. You guys are so worried and obsessed about something way too early. This watch should really start once we got to the 26-29 range and even then it is so early. I mean if we lose to ULL will you not feel like you wasted time? Instead of sharing disappointment and letting it go will you start debating how many weeks it could take us to get back and each win is nothing more than a chance to gain a few more votes?

If we were not great but an opponent in our league had threads like this all the time I would actually laugh out loud when they lose and those idiots had wasted all their time. I'm sure there are fans on other boards who are laughing just as hard about our people obsessing with rankings as we are laughing at ULL fully expecting to blow us out when they have never beaten us.

It’s okay. We’re all going to be okay Thursday morning. Regardless of the outcome and regardless of all the people you are imagining laughing out loud at the idiots talking about being ranked.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am

AppStFan1, per your profile, this thread is your most active topic on this board with 51 posts within 15 pages. I'm sorry it has wasted so much of your time.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by ah59396 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:53 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am
AppStFan1, per your profile, this thread is your most active topic on this board with 51 posts within 15 pages. I'm sorry it has wasted so much of your time.
FYI, if you add someone as a “foe” you don’t see their posts anymore. I wasn’t aware of this but it makes the thread much more readable.

I realized they will be the first ones in this thread “gloating” if we lose Wednesday and I’m not interested in trying explain how that makes no sense. Since, ya know, we’ve explained it 40 times.

I just want to discuss the rankings and how me might fit into it like rational people. Is that so much to ask?!?!? Haha.
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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by ah59396 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:59 am

SayYesToTheRock wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am
You guys are so worried and obsessed about something way too early. This watch should really start once we got to the 26-29 range
We're #28 right now, so..... look's like we're good.
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am

I mean if we lose to ULL will you not feel like you wasted time?
Do you know where you are? This is a college sports message board. The entire point is to waste time, and enjoy doing it. Lots of people enjoy following the rankings -- not just here, but at schools across the country.

Do you similarly hate score prediction threads when the scores aren't 100% correct?

I haven't seen you in the Look-Alike threads talking about how much of a waste of time they are.

I'll keep an eye out for your wise counsel in every "time wasting" thread from now on. ;)
You missed a golden opportunity to quote Guns N’ Roses here, haha. “You’re in the jungle baby”.

But yeah, I come here specifically to waste time. It’s a game after all.
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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:59 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am
AppStFan1, per your profile, this thread is your most active topic on this board with 51 posts within 15 pages. I'm sorry it has wasted so much of your time.
I like this post, but really I am kind of mad at you for saying it before I had a chance to screenshot it and say something snarky like "Everyone please follow AppStFan1's sage example and stop wasting so much time on this topic!" ;)

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:18 am

SayYesToTheRock wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am
You guys are so worried and obsessed about something way too early. This watch should really start once we got to the 26-29 range
We're #28 right now, so..... look's like we're good.
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:53 am

I mean if we lose to ULL will you not feel like you wasted time?
Do you know where you are? This is a college sports message board. The entire point is to waste time, and enjoy doing it. Lots of people enjoy following the rankings -- not just here, but at schools across the country.

Do you similarly hate score prediction threads when the scores aren't 100% correct?

I haven't seen you in the Look-Alike threads talking about how much of a waste of time they are.

I'll keep an eye out for your wise counsel in every "time wasting" thread from now on. ;)
Yes, we just now got in the range where there is a point in following where we are.

The Look-Alike thread is indeed stupid but I only look at the areas for App State football, basketball, and recruiting for the most part. I don't consider message boards a waste of time if people are posting news, articles, what they are hearing if they have inside info, etc. I have actually gotten a lot of good info from boards.

My guess is also that those who are obsessed with this are under 30. You guys probably don't like when we get a commit from a guy who has no stars and think that the rankings matter right now. Stars never matter and the rankings only start to matter come November.

I'll admit, I'll be closely monitoring the polls and care once get into November but if it comes before then, great. If not, then that is fine as well. Do I want us to get the exposure from being on Fox Sports 1, ESPN, etc in showing our highlights from being ranked? Absolutely. I'm sure many of those who are most worried about this were also among the ones who did not want to move up. I think we moved up to FBS many years later than we should have.

It will happen when it happens. I just fear right now if it happens that we may end up like last year and folks will laugh when they see a G5 get ranked and then get destroyed.

At least we aren't undefeated and not getting a single vote. If we were 7-0 or 8-0 and not getting any votes then I would truly worry. We are listed and have yet to do anything nationally to prove we are worthy of it yet.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:24 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:29 am
AppStFan1, per your profile, this thread is your most active topic on this board with 51 posts within 15 pages. I'm sorry it has wasted so much of your time.
I read the threads on this topic just because it amazes me at the obsession. I actually read the threads on our opponents or news more than anything. The reason I keep coming back is that I keep getting the most replies here. My activity in this thread is due to the response of you guys. I myself read once just to see where we were listed. I had not even looked at the polls until this thread because I knew it was way too early for us to be ranked at this point.

Again, I'm with you guys that I want to be ranked regularly because I know it is good for us to get that publicity. I just don't get the obsession so early when we all know that a SBC team is going to have to beat a ranked team or at least get to 5-0, at the very least, or 6-0 before we seriously have a shot to be ranked.

The voters are never going to rank us early on unless we go to a NY6 Bowl the year before and return most of our talent.

One tough part about being ranked is that it depends on your schedule strength as to how quickly you can earn it but since schedules are done so far in advance you kind of have to get lucky in that regard. Just beating up St. Mary's School of the Blind by 40-50 every week doesn't and shouldn't mean anything. I really want to see us face a P5 ranked team so we know for sure where we stand.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by ArmantiWaterSafety » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:06 am

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sp ... op-25-poll

Just wanted to throw this in there. This author seems to quote lack of respect in his subtitle but then seemingly writes a sentence that says "obviously we're better than Appalachian State." Maybe I'm just reading into it too much.

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Re: Top 25 Watch (real thread)

Unread post by ah59396 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:12 am

ArmantiWaterSafety wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:06 am
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sp ... op-25-poll

Just wanted to throw this in there. This author seems to quote lack of respect in his subtitle but then seemingly writes a sentence that says "obviously we're better than Appalachian State." Maybe I'm just reading into it too much.
Hmmm, maybe. They certainly have a right to be annoyed. They are a 5-0 Big 10 team.

Lucky for them they’ll get a chance to prove themselves when they see Iowa, Penn State and Wisconsin.

PJ Fleck certainly seems to have them going in the right direction though. Bad news for NDSU.
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