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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:04 pm

hapapp wrote:
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Just a quick glance at the TX St roster shows 38 transfers just from FBS schools ---
Are they contributing?
The QB sure did.
Yes I agree. I just wonder how it is working out overall.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by WataugaMan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:24 pm

PhillyApp1 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:59 pm
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Im still whizzed over the ref who blew the receiver interference call in the JMU game. It cost us momentum when we needed it.
The "powers that be" from the conference have determined it was a missed/error call. As far as the TxSt game goes, without a doubt our players need to be more disciplined. However, the officiating did contributed to the game "getting out of hand" at times, definitely unbecoming of any officiating at this level.
I think there is a trend in the bad calls from the SoCon 😉, I mean Sunbelt refs. The missed calls are definitely effecting games.
The App State players have to clean up and the refs should be reprimanded
First and foremost our players need to be more disciplined. As far as the officials are concerned there is no way they should be officiating any Div I games anywhere. I realize I sound like sour grapes, however, these official perform beyond anything I've ever witnessed, including at the high school level.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:34 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:24 pm
PhillyApp1 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:59 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:08 am
appstate77 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:51 am
Im still whizzed over the ref who blew the receiver interference call in the JMU game. It cost us momentum when we needed it.
The "powers that be" from the conference have determined it was a missed/error call. As far as the TxSt game goes, without a doubt our players need to be more disciplined. However, the officiating did contributed to the game "getting out of hand" at times, definitely unbecoming of any officiating at this level.
I think there is a trend in the bad calls from the SoCon 😉, I mean Sunbelt refs. The missed calls are definitely effecting games.
The App State players have to clean up and the refs should be reprimanded
First and foremost our players need to be more disciplined. As far as the officials are concerned there is no way they should be officiating any Div I games anywhere. I realize I sound like sour grapes, however, these official perform beyond anything I've ever witnessed, including at the high school level.
We have also gotten reputation calls over the years.

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:51 pm

Yes, this is true and adds more weight to my claim.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by WataugaMan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:50 pm

Interesting read on college officiating in general: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-f ... iders-say/

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by t4pizza » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:54 am

bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.
We would not accept all of Chase's credits that he received at DUKE. If a graduate level credit at DUKE isn't acceptable, I can only imagine what other school credits are not acceptable. We can all have pride in our University but for anyone to suggest that credits from DUKE are not adequate for App State is just absurd. Caveat is that I don't know Chase and can't confirm this personally but it has been posted on message boards consistently without refute so I assume it to be true, if it isn't then my bad for passing on incorrect information.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:58 am

t4pizza wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:54 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.
We would not accept all of Chase's credits that he received at DUKE. If a graduate level credit at DUKE isn't acceptable, I can only imagine what other school credits are not acceptable. We can all have pride in our University but for anyone to suggest that credits from DUKE are not adequate for App State is just absurd. Caveat is that I don't know Chase and can't confirm this personally but it has been posted on message boards consistently without refute so I assume it to be true, if it isn't then my bad for passing on incorrect information.
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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by BeauFoster » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:00 am

t4pizza wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:54 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.
We would not accept all of Chase's credits that he received at DUKE. If a graduate level credit at DUKE isn't acceptable, I can only imagine what other school credits are not acceptable. We can all have pride in our University but for anyone to suggest that credits from DUKE are not adequate for App State is just absurd. Caveat is that I don't know Chase and can't confirm this personally but it has been posted on message boards consistently without refute so I assume it to be true, if it isn't then my bad for passing on incorrect information.
I guess it depends on what the program and credits are, right? If her were in a graduate program that App doesn’t offer, I could see it. If it’s an MBA, which both schools offer, then yeah…not agreeing with that at all.

App can’t just say “your 40 hours towards electrical engineering are great, you’re a senior business major now!” That’s a gross simplification, but I hope it gets my point across.
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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:02 am

t4pizza wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:54 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.
We would not accept all of Chase's credits that he received at DUKE. If a graduate level credit at DUKE isn't acceptable, I can only imagine what other school credits are not acceptable. We can all have pride in our University but for anyone to suggest that credits from DUKE are not adequate for App State is just absurd. Caveat is that I don't know Chase and can't confirm this personally but it has been posted on message boards consistently without refute so I assume it to be true, if it isn't then my bad for passing on incorrect information.
I am not saying that the system is correct. I am just saying that it needs to be equal for all students. Depending on the actual class I would hope Duke credits would transfer.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:20 am

t4pizza wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:54 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:08 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:50 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:46 am
Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?
We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.
Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.
It should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the football program. The University policy across the board should be looked at. Every student and potential student should be looked at equally. If this truly is a problem I wonder how many great students we are missing out on.
We would not accept all of Chase's credits that he received at DUKE. If a graduate level credit at DUKE isn't acceptable, I can only imagine what other school credits are not acceptable. We can all have pride in our University but for anyone to suggest that credits from DUKE are not adequate for App State is just absurd. Caveat is that I don't know Chase and can't confirm this personally but it has been posted on message boards consistently without refute so I assume it to be true, if it isn't then my bad for passing on incorrect information.
They weren’t graduate level classes. He was finishing his undergraduate classes to satisfy his Bachelors at Clemson. But your point about accepting any level of classes from Duke, or Clemson stand.

My source is his Dad.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:28 am

I've wondered in general about the 6th year guys (mostly) in terms of the academic side. What is the criteria for maintaining athletic eligibility? Surely any player in his 6th year has graduated. Do they have to apply for and get accepted to graduate school? I didn't think it was a slam dunk to get into any graduate program but it seems like the extra year was granted to all? Not to pass dispersions on any student athlete but there has to be at least a percentage who barely received their undergrad degree. For those guys how are they able to keep playing?

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:31 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:28 am
I've wondered in general about the 6th year guys (mostly) in terms of the academic side. What is the criteria for maintaining athletic eligibility? Surely any player in his 6th year has graduated. Do they have to apply for and get accepted to graduate school? I didn't think it was a slam dunk to get into any graduate program but it seems like the extra year was granted to all? Not to pass dispersions on any student athlete but there has to be at least a percentage who barely received their undergrad degree. For those guys how are they able to keep playing?
I too thought that a player had to be in a graduate program. Chase is not. He is getting a second Bachelors degree. It just has to be something not offered at the school that he is leaving.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:45 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:31 am
bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:28 am
I've wondered in general about the 6th year guys (mostly) in terms of the academic side. What is the criteria for maintaining athletic eligibility? Surely any player in his 6th year has graduated. Do they have to apply for and get accepted to graduate school? I didn't think it was a slam dunk to get into any graduate program but it seems like the extra year was granted to all? Not to pass dispersions on any student athlete but there has to be at least a percentage who barely received their undergrad degree. For those guys how are they able to keep playing?
I too thought that a player had to be in a graduate program. Chase is not. He is getting a second Bachelors degree. It just has to be something not offered at the school that he is leaving.
I have wondered at times this year what a 6th year student who graduated in 3 years at Clemson is studying haha. If it were me, I would be taking some orienteering classes.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by appstate77 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:54 pm

Perhaps some are GA's like the The Citadel QB who played at App.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:56 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:45 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:31 am
bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:28 am
I've wondered in general about the 6th year guys (mostly) in terms of the academic side. What is the criteria for maintaining athletic eligibility? Surely any player in his 6th year has graduated. Do they have to apply for and get accepted to graduate school? I didn't think it was a slam dunk to get into any graduate program but it seems like the extra year was granted to all? Not to pass dispersions on any student athlete but there has to be at least a percentage who barely received their undergrad degree. For those guys how are they able to keep playing?
I too thought that a player had to be in a graduate program. Chase is not. He is getting a second Bachelors degree. It just has to be something not offered at the school that he is leaving.
I have wondered at times this year what a 6th year student who graduated in 3 years at Clemson is studying haha. If it were me, I would be taking some orienteering classes.
I really wasn't singling out Chase but was just curious about any 6th year guy in particular. I'm willing to bet that in the Spring those extra degrees or grad school programs often come to a screeching halt. If a guy graduated and is working on that second degree is there a requirement for hours taken to be eligible? Can a guy just take some bobo class during football season and roll on? Not that we have these classes. Wait a minute my son could have taken intro to fly fishing. I guess that's worth the $500 or so tuition money. Oh boy

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by Blackshirt68 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:51 pm

Let’s all get excited over the Uniform Reveal!

But really, can anyone get excited over Citadel or Robert Morris?

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:01 pm

Blackshirt68 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:51 pm
Let’s all get excited over the Uniform Reveal!

But really, can anyone get excited over Citadel or Robert Morris?
I am excited to see our young players against RM. Berger and Roberts should hopefully be competing for starting roles this summer.

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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:44 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:56 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:45 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:31 am
bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:28 am
I've wondered in general about the 6th year guys (mostly) in terms of the academic side. What is the criteria for maintaining athletic eligibility? Surely any player in his 6th year has graduated. Do they have to apply for and get accepted to graduate school? I didn't think it was a slam dunk to get into any graduate program but it seems like the extra year was granted to all? Not to pass dispersions on any student athlete but there has to be at least a percentage who barely received their undergrad degree. For those guys how are they able to keep playing?
I too thought that a player had to be in a graduate program. Chase is not. He is getting a second Bachelors degree. It just has to be something not offered at the school that he is leaving.
I have wondered at times this year what a 6th year student who graduated in 3 years at Clemson is studying haha. If it were me, I would be taking some orienteering classes.
I really wasn't singling out Chase but was just curious about any 6th year guy in particular. I'm willing to bet that in the Spring those extra degrees or grad school programs often come to a screeching halt. If a guy graduated and is working on that second degree is there a requirement for hours taken to be eligible? Can a guy just take some bobo class during football season and roll on? Not that we have these classes. Wait a minute my son could have taken intro to fly fishing. I guess that's worth the $500 or so tuition money. Oh boy
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Re: Vent Here

Unread post by appdaze » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:35 pm

We've all taken our swings. let's let these threads go and start new ones with some of these topics not related to our losses.


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