Portal time 25-26

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by 311neers » Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:13 am

I hope Georgia wins the law suit. Forcing contracts/buyouts to be paid out if you leave.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by 311neers » Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:14 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:12 am
I guess I’m more in the minority that looks at this list of departures and isn’t too bothered. Porter and Dozier were the two that hurt me the most but the others have been far too inconsistent. 10-15 of them haven’t even seen the field. You can’t fault a kid for wanting to go somewhere to play when it becomes evident it won’t be here.
Porter
Bucci
Manuel
Dozier
McCantos
Burks
Kohl

Those were guys I would have wanted back. Each of those helped us win games. But yep, the rest were just Clark holdovers essentially.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:27 am

311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:14 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:12 am
I guess I’m more in the minority that looks at this list of departures and isn’t too bothered. Porter and Dozier were the two that hurt me the most but the others have been far too inconsistent. 10-15 of them haven’t even seen the field. You can’t fault a kid for wanting to go somewhere to play when it becomes evident it won’t be here.
Porter
Bucci
Manuel
Dozier
McCantos
Burks
Kohl

Those were guys I would have wanted back. Each of those helped us win games. But yep, the rest were just Clark holdovers essentially.
I agree on Porter, Manuel and Dozier. Bucci didn’t really do much all year and hadn’t played since Lindenwood. McCantos and Burks were good at times, but safety was a weakness again this season. McCantos had a costly targeting call against Ark State. Kohl was decent at times as well.

I group McCantos, Burks and Kohl all in the same bucket that I consider decent players with some good traits and skills but lack high-end traits and skills that can make them great players.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:37 am

Related to the Kohl point but definitely applies to all players, the coaches must insist on players that want to compete. Anything less will not work and we will not be competitive.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:13 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:12 am
I guess I’m more in the minority that looks at this list of departures and isn’t too bothered. Porter and Dozier were the two that hurt me the most but the others have been far too inconsistent. 10-15 of them haven’t even seen the field. You can’t fault a kid for wanting to go somewhere to play when it becomes evident it won’t be here.
More than half didn’t even crack the 3 deep on our 5-7 team. Need to make room for better players. Over half our starters this season were transfers. Some of our best players for next year aren’t even on our team right now.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:28 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:13 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:12 am
I guess I’m more in the minority that looks at this list of departures and isn’t too bothered. Porter and Dozier were the two that hurt me the most but the others have been far too inconsistent. 10-15 of them haven’t even seen the field. You can’t fault a kid for wanting to go somewhere to play when it becomes evident it won’t be here.
More than half didn’t even crack the 3 deep on our 5-7 team. Need to make room for better players. Over half our starters this season were transfers. Some of our best players for next year aren’t even on our team right now.
The key is whether we can replace the losses with better talent. DLo did well with HS recruiting. Hopefully, he does the same in TP recruiting. I feel like the success with TP will depend on the amount of NIL we can offer.
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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:30 am

If we don't get immediate help with portal we are looking at 2 years of bad before the HS talent can contribute probably. And that's a huge IF the HS talent remains here and doesn't want to leave to play immediately or get paid.

Maybe we just keep Mountaineers in the team name and sell the first part of the team name to the highest bidder each year or contract basis like NFL stadiums do.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by rbarthle17 » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:33 am

MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 2:25 pm
rbarthle17 wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:57 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:36 pm
Seriously, this is ridiculous, named the starter for the bowl game and does this…

I wouldn’t sign up to coach in this era the G6 level, just not worth it.
It's only ridiculous in terms of the environment being what it is. For Kohl, and any other G5 player that had even a decent season, putting your name in the portal and seeing what happens is just smart business. Portal doesn't mean they are leaving, they are just officially seeing what's out there. They might still return.
I also don't see this as ridiculous. If he's the starter, that means he's still playing until the season officially ends. It would be ridiculous if he entered the portal and refused to play- basically quitting on the team.
I am of the opposite opinion. Once you declare for the portal, playing any further provides very little upside especially this late in the season. And a large amount of downside in terms of getting injured.

If you want to call it quitting on the team, then that was done the moment you said "I'm outta here" and declared for the portal.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:35 am

rbarthle17 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:33 am
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 2:25 pm
rbarthle17 wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:57 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:36 pm
Seriously, this is ridiculous, named the starter for the bowl game and does this…

I wouldn’t sign up to coach in this era the G6 level, just not worth it.
It's only ridiculous in terms of the environment being what it is. For Kohl, and any other G5 player that had even a decent season, putting your name in the portal and seeing what happens is just smart business. Portal doesn't mean they are leaving, they are just officially seeing what's out there. They might still return.
I also don't see this as ridiculous. If he's the starter, that means he's still playing until the season officially ends. It would be ridiculous if he entered the portal and refused to play- basically quitting on the team.
I am of the opposite opinion. Once you declare for the portal, playing any further provides very little upside especially this late in the season. And a large amount of downside in terms of getting injured.

If you want to call it quitting on the team, then that was done the moment you said "I'm outta here" and declared for the portal.
They also have a chance to impress other teams for better NIL though.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by Bootsy » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:37 am

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Do they really have ties to Boone either?
On the weekly show at the Ale House, when asked what they like to do when not football, there are some that mention hiking, fishing, etc
Many talk about hanging with teammates/playing video games, versus experiencing what The High Country has to offer. .. and it seems the 3 to 4 year guys have experienced The High Country versus the transfer guys not so much . Just an observation.
Fair point: maybe calling App “Mountaineers South” and WVU “Northern Mountaineers North” would work.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by rbarthle17 » Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:43 am

biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:35 am
rbarthle17 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:33 am
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 2:25 pm
rbarthle17 wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:57 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:36 pm
Seriously, this is ridiculous, named the starter for the bowl game and does this…

I wouldn’t sign up to coach in this era the G6 level, just not worth it.
It's only ridiculous in terms of the environment being what it is. For Kohl, and any other G5 player that had even a decent season, putting your name in the portal and seeing what happens is just smart business. Portal doesn't mean they are leaving, they are just officially seeing what's out there. They might still return.
I also don't see this as ridiculous. If he's the starter, that means he's still playing until the season officially ends. It would be ridiculous if he entered the portal and refused to play- basically quitting on the team.
I am of the opposite opinion. Once you declare for the portal, playing any further provides very little upside especially this late in the season. And a large amount of downside in terms of getting injured.

If you want to call it quitting on the team, then that was done the moment you said "I'm outta here" and declared for the portal.
They also have a chance to impress other teams for better NIL though.
One game, against a team that will also be threadbare of any real talent, doesn't strike me as enough upside to risk it.

I accept the portal is an integral part of this era of college athletics, and I do not fault the kids for using it, but I also am a hard ass about it. Once you declare, if I was a coach that's it for you playing for me this season. Choices have consequences, and I'm not letting you use me any more for your benefit that doesn't benefit me in greater sums. Your spot goes to someone committed to this program. I'm also unlikely to re-recruit you. You think the grass is greener elsewhere? I hope for your sake you are right. My focus is on those that like the greenery that I have here.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by ASU843 » Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:08 am

I wonder how many times and how often these kids will change jobs when they get out and have to go to work? What company would want to hire and train an individual who has a reputation of jumping jobs every time a little more $ is on the table?

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by t4pizza » Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:13 am

ASU843 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:08 am
I wonder how many times and how often these kids will change jobs when they get out and have to go to work? What company would want to hire and train an individual who has a reputation of jumping jobs every time a little more $ is on the table?
I was actually talking to my brother about this exact same thing earlier today. I told him that if these guys had resumes like this in the real world, nobody would hire them. Who wants an employee that had 4 jobs in 5 years?

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by fjblair » Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:17 am

311neers wrote:
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Just got done with a Microdisectemy.
I don’t know if I can suit up at QB for the bowl game quite yet, but maybe by next year I’ll be ready for QB clipboard holder. I can be a good clapper and “butt slapper”
Suck it up, suit up. We got a game to win.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by rbarthle17 » Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:03 pm

ASU843 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:08 am
I wonder how many times and how often these kids will change jobs when they get out and have to go to work? What company would want to hire and train an individual who has a reputation of jumping jobs every time a little more $ is on the table?
In my world of IT, it is an expected thing and usually how one climbs the ladder in their career. I have been one of the more rare types that doesn't like job hopping, and even I have done it 6 times in 30 years.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by CoachRob » Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:15 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:27 am
311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:14 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:12 am
I guess I’m more in the minority that looks at this list of departures and isn’t too bothered. Porter and Dozier were the two that hurt me the most but the others have been far too inconsistent. 10-15 of them haven’t even seen the field. You can’t fault a kid for wanting to go somewhere to play when it becomes evident it won’t be here.
Porter
Bucci
Manuel
Dozier
McCantos
Burks
Kohl

Those were guys I would have wanted back. Each of those helped us win games. But yep, the rest were just Clark holdovers essentially.
I agree on Porter, Manuel and Dozier. Bucci didn’t really do much all year and hadn’t played since Lindenwood. McCantos and Burks were good at times, but safety was a weakness again this season. McCantos had a costly targeting call against Ark State. Kohl was decent at times as well.

I group McCantos, Burks and Kohl all in the same bucket that I consider decent players with some good traits and skills but lack high-end traits and skills that can make them great players.
I could be wrong, but wasn't Dozier the WR who didn't line up on the LOS causing the penalty on the 4th & 1 TD pass vs Arky State? I went back to look at that play, Galloway was a wing off of an extra OL as the TE, meaning the flanker needed to be on the LOS for a legal formation. Great play call with the wing leaking out off of a split zone look. Couldn't see the #, but all the WR needed to do was have enough focus to lineup correctly and stand there.
I know he dropped an easy wide open TD pass that would have sealed the Coastal game. I know the kid is talented, but seen enough drops & lack of focus plays to move on to someone else.

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:36 pm

Any player that transfers after one or two seasons should be called a Neer, because they were only her for part of their commitment. And when they declare for the portal, we can say “Go Neers!”

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:45 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:36 pm
Any player that transfers after one or two seasons should be called a Neer, because they were only her for part of their commitment. And when they declare for the portal, we can say “Go Neers!”
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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:30 pm

A quick poll on staying with the job. I taught and coached at 2 schools in 40 years. Spent 24 yrs at one and 16 at the other. How about the rest of you?

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Re: Portal time 25-26

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:35 pm

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:30 pm
A quick poll on staying with the job. I taught and coached at 2 schools in 40 years. Spent 24 yrs at one and 16 at the other. How about the rest of you?
5 years with first job out of college (was laid off when all the positions were sent to India). 18 years at 2nd job currently.

Guess you could count the 8 years at Harris Teeter from HS through college.

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