First choice for Bowl game opponent

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by boonetown1 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:28 am

Although western Michigan has two P5 wins, they aren't impressive opponents. One to an Illinois team that's a borderline dumpster fire and one to northwestern, who although seem to have found a groove lately, started the season 1-3 with a lossy to WM and an FCS team. IMO Boise or an AAC should get it.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by asucrutch23 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:37 am

boonetown1 wrote:Although western Michigan has two P5 wins, they aren't impressive opponents. One to an Illinois team that's a borderline dumpster fire and one to northwestern, who although seem to have found a groove lately, started the season 1-3 with a lossy to WM and an FCS team. IMO Boise or an AAC should get it.
But unless they change the rule that requires you to be a conference champion to be the G5 rep in the NY6 (not happening), teams like Boise and Houston will not be going because they are not even the favorites to win their own division of their conference, let alone be the conference champion.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 am

If Boise does get the help they need and wins their conference at 12-1, I still think WMU *should* get the nod based on merit. Both have two P5 wins - one bad team (Oregon State and Illinois, respectively) and one decent one (Washington State and Northwestern). Washington State is considered a little better than Northwestern right now, but is that really enough to make up for losing to Wyoming vs. going unbeaten? (Also Boise got WSU at home, while both of Western Michigan's P5 wins were on the road.)

And the Mountain West isn't what it used to be - it's not really notably better than the MAC at this point. Boise's conference title game win over a potentially 11-1 SDSU would be better than whoever WMU beats, but overall the league is pretty weak.

Of course, the caveat on all this is that it's debatable how much the CFP committee really considers merit vs. marketing, and Boise (or most of the potential AAC contenders for that matter) would probably make a bigger TV draw than WMU. So it's not out of the question that Western Michigan could get screwed.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by t4pizza » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:50 am

I would like to go to NO for a bowl, the atmosphere of the city is the best of our 4 options. As for teams, I would like to see us play a team with some name recognition, really anyone from the American (Houston, Tulsa, Memphis, Navy, USF, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF even ECU) would qualify for that, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee, La Tech, Southern Miss from USA, and Western Michigan and Toledo from the MAC. Those teams would be a good match for tv early bowl games and hopefully give us some good numbers. Plus a win over a known program just helps to keep growing our brand. The NO Bowl would seem to give us the best option of a good date, a good city and a good opponent.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by Goapps15 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:51 am

asucrutch23 wrote:
boonetown1 wrote:Although western Michigan has two P5 wins, they aren't impressive opponents. One to an Illinois team that's a borderline dumpster fire and one to northwestern, who although seem to have found a groove lately, started the season 1-3 with a lossy to WM and an FCS team. IMO Boise or an AAC should get it.
But unless they change the rule that requires you to be a conference champion to be the G5 rep in the NY6 (not happening), teams like Boise and Houston will not be going because they are not even the favorites to win their own division of their conference, let alone be the conference champion.
This is correct. South Florida would also need help just to make their conference title game and win their division. They are currently tied with Temple and lost to them head to head.

Western Michigan is most likely as of right now but a loss vs Toledo the last week of the regular season would put them in the same boat as Houston and Boise. This year could be really interesting to see who gets in.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by Goapps15 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:53 am

Being a Nashville guy, I would love to play MTSU or WKU in New Orleans. Both have good teams and would be great conference partners in the future.

I really don't want to go back to Montgomery. Could be a dud MAC team like Eastern Michigan that will bring absolutely 0 fans. The others would at least be great matchups.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:54 am

Shameless plug here, but since I covered a lot of the NY6 ramifications in my column this week, here it is for anyone who wants a quick primer:
http://www.yosefscabin.com/g5-top-10-we ... t-broncos/

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by moonshine » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:34 am

I'd say my preference is NO v CUSA (USM), Mobile v MAC (possible top #25 match-up w/ WMU) and Orlando v #8 AAC team (Memphis, UCF & SMU as of right now).

On a side note, how about those Pokes of Wyoming?!? Coach Bohl is doing a great job with that program. If he doesn't get picked off by a PAC or B1G program, we'll have a tough road game come 2023 in Laramie.
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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:42 am

EastHallApp wrote:Shameless plug here, but since I covered a lot of the NY6 ramifications in my column this week, here it is for anyone who wants a quick primer:
http://www.yosefscabin.com/g5-top-10-we ... t-broncos/
Just a side note- Houston went from world beater to seemingly average looking pretty quickly.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by Black Saturday » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:00 pm

WMU would be a tough out. Let's have another try at an ACC or SEC, if possible?
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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by WVAppsfan » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:11 pm

I do not like a situation were you win the conference and the "best bowl" option can pass on the champion to invite a team that will sell tickets. Odd huh? The FBS system is broken and needs to change, but never the less. I say win the Sun Belt, go to the bowl that selects us and win. Hang a banner in the stadium as Sun Belt Champions, and one more bowl win in two years.
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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:14 pm

Go back to the old days where you could end up just about anywhere, but maybe tighten the reigns on how teams are picked so that a 6-6 South Carolina doesn't get a better bowl than a 10-2 App State. Got to be some way to do that.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by asucrutch23 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:54 pm

BUTCH1991 wrote:Go back to the old days where you could end up just about anywhere, but maybe tighten the reigns on how teams are picked so that a 6-6 South Carolina doesn't get a better bowl than a 10-2 App State. Got to be some way to do that.
Will never happen, unfortunately, since the bowls are all contracted with specific conference tie-ins. Also, the bowls are still in the business of making money, so they will always choose the bigger school that will bring more fans and eyeballs if given the choice.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:00 pm

WVAppsfan wrote:I do not like a situation were you win the conference and the "best bowl" option can pass on the champion to invite a team that will sell tickets. Odd huh? The FBS system is broken and needs to change, but never the less. I say win the Sun Belt, go to the bowl that selects us and win. Hang a banner in the stadium as Sun Belt Champions, and one more bowl win in two years.
I think the Sun Belt needs a little more structure to its bowls. All five power conferences plus the MWC have a pre-assigned bowl tie-in for their champions. CUSA lets the champion pick its own bowl. Only the Sun Belt, AAC and MAC are totally wide open.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:40 pm

I agree. NO should go to the champ, good location and date. I'd like to see the Cure bowl pick ahead of Camellia as well.

If App wins SBC

NO - Ark St
DG - App
Camellia - Troy
Cure - USA
Arizona - Idaho

If we don't win SBC:

NO - Troy
DG - Ark St
Camellia - USA
Cure - App
Arizona - Idaho

I don't think GS gets 6 wins.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:03 pm

I want to play Western Michigan, but they are in line for the access bowl right now

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:02 am

I don't understand why everyone is against the Camellia Bowl. It's the closest game to App fans, the city rolled out the red carpet to us, and the stadium while old is a good setting and a good size for our crowd. I know we went last year, but nobody seemed to mind going to Chattanooga 3 years in a row. Both cities are very similar IMO.

Some have mentioned having a designated game for the conference champ (I agree to some extend but understand why there isn't), but if that were so and we won the conference back to back years would people complain about traveling to the same city two years in a row for that game?

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:16 am

It's like going on vacation, you enjoy going to the NC/SC beach you always go to with the family each year, but your preference is to try a new place perhaps in Florida, Gulf Shores, etc.

I enjoyed the Camellia bowl and wouldn't mind going back in a couple years (and I'll gladly go this year as well), but I'd prefer to experience new bowl sites.

Plus if we go to the Camellia Bowl what likely means we don't win the SBC.

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by MtnMan09 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:16 am

JTApps1 wrote:I don't understand why everyone is against the Camellia Bowl. It's the closest game to App fans, the city rolled out the red carpet to us, and the stadium while old is a good setting and a good size for our crowd. I know we went last year, but nobody seemed to mind going to Chattanooga 3 years in a row. Both cities are very similar IMO.

Some have mentioned having a designated game for the conference champ (I agree to some extend but understand why there isn't), but if that were so and we won the conference back to back years would people complain about traveling to the same city two years in a row for that game?
Not if it were to New Orleans...

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Re: First choice for Bowl game opponent

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:39 am

Saint3333 wrote:It's like going on vacation, you enjoy going to the NC/SC beach you always go to with the family each year, but your preference is to try a new place perhaps in Florida, Gulf Shores, etc.

I enjoyed the Camellia bowl and wouldn't mind going back in a couple years (and I'll gladly go this year as well), but I'd prefer to experience new bowl sites.

Plus if we go to the Camellia Bowl what likely means we don't win the SBC.
If Ark. State gets bowl eligible I think Montgomery is our destination no matter what. I just don't see New Orleans and Mobile passing on stAte and Troy.

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