WR shakeup for Saturday

[ASUPATCH]

Methinks coach Satt went to coach Stepp and said can you not coach these guys up anymore and coach Stepp said back you have my best guys wearing redshirts, I cant coach size and athleticism. Hence Meadors and Barbour are dressing. To be fait to past recruiting our current Jr/Sr crop would look much better if Sean Price had his head screwed on right......might have had more natural talent than Brian Quick. Where is Price? D2 or D3?

[Appsolutely]

Other than the brothers who transferred from WF, and possibly the running back from VT, have we ever really had any success with transfers?

[ASUPATCH]

Other than the brothers who transferred from WF, and possibly the running back from VT, have we ever really had any success with transfers?

Cadet was a pretty solid jack of all trades. Had some good JuCos throughout the years.

[Appsolutely]

Other than the brothers who transferred from WF, and possibly the running back from VT, have we ever really had any success with transfers?

Cadet was a pretty solid jack of all trades. Had some good JuCos throughout the years.

Good point about Cadet...as far as JuCos, I was really referring to players who transfer from a 4-year program.

[SpeedkingATL]

If true, it is good to see that a move is being made to win some games NOW instead of worrying about 4 years down the road. I would also like to see some decisions made about the starting 5 on the OL and have them play together as a unit. More than any group on the field these guys need to know one another and play as a unit. Can't do that with constant substitution/rotation we've used.

[WVAPPeer]

Other than the brothers who transferred from WF, and possibly the running back from VT, have we ever really had any success with transfers?

Tim Washington when he was healthy ---

[APPARJ]

Methinks coach Satt went to coach Stepp and said can you not coach these guys up anymore and coach Stepp said back you have my best guys wearing redshirts, I cant coach size and athleticism. Hence Meadors and Barbour are dressing. To be fait to past recruiting our current Jr/Sr crop would look much better if Sean Price had his head screwed on right......might have had more natural talent than Brian Quick. Where is Price? D2 or D3?

I understand your point. But Sean Price, while the most talented WR in App State history, was a disaster. We talk about how kids that don't perform on the field are busts all the time. Look at Bobo and Tacoi as examples. But one thing is for certain, Bobo and Tacoi, to my knowledge, haven't caused any real trouble off the field.

But what about the off-the-field busts? IMO, that's just as worthy of criticism as on the field.

In other words, Sean Price might as well have not been talented enough to play on the field because he wasn't smart enough to act appropriately off the field. What a waste. Huge bust.

[ASUPATCH]

Methinks coach Satt went to coach Stepp and said can you not coach these guys up anymore and coach Stepp said back you have my best guys wearing redshirts, I cant coach size and athleticism. Hence Meadors and Barbour are dressing. To be fait to past recruiting our current Jr/Sr crop would look much better if Sean Price had his head screwed on right......might have had more natural talent than Brian Quick. Where is Price? D2 or D3?

I understand your point. But Sean Price, while the most talented WR in App State history, was a disaster. We talk about how kids that don't perform on the field are busts all the time. Look at Bobo and Tacoi as examples. But one thing is for certain, Bobo and Tacoi, to my knowledge, haven't caused any real trouble off the field.

But what about the off-the-field busts? IMO, that's just as worthy of criticism as on the field.

In other words, Sean Price might as well have not been talented enough to play on the field because he wasn't smart enough to act appropriately off the field. What a waste. Huge bust.

I get what your saying. I feel it is much harder to judge a recruiting class on off the field issues. To my knowledge Sean had no prior run ins to speak of so you can only go off what his high school coaches and family tell you. I feel the coaching staff should be more judged up recruiting wise on their ability to sport talent and coach it up. In the Price situation they nailed that one. Its so much harder to predict drinking behavior issues when someone has a clean record.

[WER4ASU]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

[EastHallApp]

Don't know why people are talking about burning the redshirt or "unshirting" Barbour. He was never intended to redshirt - he started the first game. Now if he'd been unable to recover from injury in time to play this year, sure, you get him a medical redshirt. But if he's ready to go, you play him, as was always the plan.

Meadors is a little tougher call - I'd hoped and expected to see him playing from day 1. As others have said, if you're going to play him now, he better be playing a whole lot. If that's the case, go for it.

We're still going to have a huge redshirt class that will hopefully pay off in 2018. Hopefully these guys can help us this year, and gain some valuable experience for 2015.

[moehler]

tough call with Meadors, even if you put him on the field, being productive in practice and being productive in games is a huge leap for a freshman wr. The odds are against him being very productive for atleast 3 or 4 games, by then, the season is almost over with anyway. I get the justification of removing the redshirt label and playing him, it just a heck of a price to pay to maybe get a couple more wins.

[AppSt94]

I get the justification of removing the redshirt label and playing him, it just a heck of a price to pay to maybe get a couple more wins.

But that's what the fan base wants. Wins come first. Common sensical approach to rebuilding this the right way comes second.

[Rekdiver]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

[WVAPPeer]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

[EastHallApp]

I get the justification of removing the redshirt label and playing him, it just a heck of a price to pay to maybe get a couple more wins.

But that's what the fan base wants. Wins come first. Common sensical approach to rebuilding this the right way comes second.

What's not common-sense about playing your best players, if that's what they are? Why is redshirting always "the right way"?

Again, it's not like playing these guys will hold them back for next year. If anything, they'll likely be better for the experience. It just means they won't be around for 2018. By which time we'll have had four recruiting classes to bring in more receivers - which will be easier to do if we're winning games and showcasing an effective passing game, BTW - not to mention the 2-4 WRs who we are already redshirting this year.

ETA: Also, does it really make sense to have 5-6 WRs in the same class anyway? I would argue that, especially given how few quality WR options we have among the upperclassmen, it makes perfect sense to balance out the classes a bit by playing about half the freshmen and redshirting the rest.

[Rekdiver]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

None taken but I see the difference on the field... Taylor appears to throw harder and quicker.

[ASUPATCH]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

None taken but I see the difference on the field... Taylor appears to throw harder and quicker.

I second this......its plain to see even on tv that Taylors Lamb is far strong than Kams. Arm strength isnt everything but there is no comparison in the two.

[WVAPPeer]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

None taken but I see the difference on the field... Taylor appears to throw harder and quicker.

I second this......its plain to see even on tv that Taylors Lamb is far strong than Kams. Arm strength isnt everything but there is no comparison in the two.

Man you guys have better eyes than me I will agree that Taylor appears to have a quicker release

[mtnjax]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

I have and the difference is noticeable. Taylor's deep ball looks more effortless than Kam's

[WVAPPeer]

We've benched a starting QB. Now we're going to bench WR's. Maybe we should give the first QB a chance with these new receivers. Quite frankly we don't really seem to have improved at QB or any other position on the team.

I would agree but you can't teach passing velocity....Kam's arm is not strong enough.

No offense Rek - but have you seen the two of them throwing the ball in person over the last couple of months? - I will say I have not and I really can't judge which has the stronger or better arm by watching tv - it certainly isn't the difference I saw in Joe Burchette and Daniel Jeremiah ---

I have and the difference is noticeable. Taylor's deep ball looks more effortless than Kam's

Got it - I just can't tell on tv ---