Sunday Reflections

[Saint3333]

I'd say the vast majority of fans are just fine with Lamb at QB1.

He does need to look off his receivers more.

Offering points to improve is different than wanting a new starter.

[appst89]

This is absolute definition of an armchair quarterback thread. Well played guys.

Wouldn't that be the purpose of a message board; for people to post their observations and their opinions?

What's funny is how quickly everyone is off Lamb even though these are all the same people who loved him after he replaced the starter last year. It was raining sideways Saturday, Tom Brady doesn't throw the ball well in those conditions. It just cracks me up that no one is ever ever happy with the quarterback position.

Seems to me that several people have spoken up in defense of Lamb.

[App91]

Not sure really what to think, left KBS a little perplexed. But for the first 34 seconds this is a 17-13 game. I know the weather made everything tough especially on offense.
Observations- Things discussed in the stands
Upshaw dances in the hole too much, needs to hit the hole harder. (reminds of Deshaun Foster).
We had a hard time running up the middle, but sure did not have any issue with keeping doing that. That was a little disappointing, would like to see more edge runs.
Matics was great, but Critcher had a horrible game.
Dont like bend but dont break defense. Way too many shoulder hits and yards after first contact, we will need to get back to tackling basics.
Would not call the late TD garbage. Alot of 1's on the field at the time, #4 totally whiffed on the sack, QB didn't even move. Like the wind blew him off course. And of course the DB fell down on the long pass. Seemed that we knew it was in hand and not real interested.

No where near the performance as at ODU, not sure what it was but the vibe was tough due to weather

[Black Saturday]

Although we looked good winning, anyone else concerned that the teams we beat are:

Howard 0-5
ODU 2-3
Wyoming 0-5

Combined 2-13, horrible at best. Ga State is 1-3. SOS has to be near the bottom. First half of the season has been a scrimmage against BAD teams.

[fjblair]

- It was ugly, and I remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Wyoming was better than advertised and I didn't see an ugly game. Otherwise I agree.

[Appaholic01]

Although we looked good winning, anyone else concerned that the teams we beat are:

Howard 0-5
ODU 2-3
Wyoming 0-5

Combined 2-13, horrible at best. Ga State is 1-3. SOS has to be near the bottom. First half of the season has been a scrimmage against BAD teams.

AppState football has one goal, to win each game. Doesn't matter who, what, where, when, and how. A win is a win. If they start losing games to these teams, then we need to talk.

[appchicago]

Although we looked good winning, anyone else concerned that the teams we beat are:

Howard 0-5
ODU 2-3
Wyoming 0-5

Combined 2-13, horrible at best. Ga State is 1-3. SOS has to be near the bottom. First half of the season has been a scrimmage against BAD teams.

But with the exception of Wyo, they were good, clean, dominant performances. And Wyo was an off day against a team that matched up against us well, but it was still a W, and a decisive one at that. So what are we to do but play our schedule and go into every game looking to come out on top?

And I know it gets said all the time, but remember that we were a 1-5 team that fought like hell to control our fates. Record alone doesn't define a team.

[MtnDevil95]

Wins and losses define a team. Lombardi said it best: "If winning isn't everything, then why do they keep score?"

App State hasn't been a program or fan base that will settle for "moral victories." In fact I bet if you dug through the archives of this message board from 2011-2013 I bet you'd find many a post about how playing FBS competition close and finishing 5-7 or 6-6 would not be OK and the Mountaineers don't accept moral victories.

Hell no, it's not damn OK. Last year's 1-5 record was not OK, I don't care how many "moral" victories were in the 5 losses. Aint nobody giving out any participation trophies at The Rock.

Win and win big.

Football can be a game of attritiion. The teams that rise to the top, finish strong, and work hard each and every play, each and every game. Last year's team embodied that spirit, and I certainly have high expectations that this year's team will continue to pound forward and give their ALL for Appalachian Sate.

[diehardapp18]

I think Lamb has to be a concern for anybody that has watched him throwing all year. He has consistently underthrown our recievers on deep balls, even on his good stat days (Stats don't reflect under thrown completions the recievers have to slow down or wait for), and he is missing wide open guys on his bad days. Now, to be fair, he has played in 2 bad weather games and against agruably the best defensive backfield in the country. But, his lack of a big arm (I would say below average strength at this level) is concerning. It really shows against better competition. He doesn't seem to have the power to drive the ball deep or into timing patterns with the pace that will be neccessary as the competition gets better. Just my point of view, but I have a concern about it.

I've said this since he took his first snap last year. Even against Howard in perfect conditions (Unless you sat on the east side...I burned up) his throws didn't have much behind them. I think this is why you're seeing us run the ball more than pass. Could be wrong. Hopefully as a former QB himself, Satt can help him improve his arm strength and mechanics

Another reason for this is that we have one of the best stables of running backs in all of college football

[t4pizza]

This is absolute definition of an armchair quarterback thread. Well played guys.

Wouldn't that be the purpose of a message board; for people to post their observations and their opinions?

What's funny is how quickly everyone is off Lamb even though these are all the same people who loved him after he replaced the starter last year. It was raining sideways Saturday, Tom Brady doesn't throw the ball well in those conditions. It just cracks me up that no one is ever ever happy with the quarterback position.

Reminds me of the old saying, 'the most popular player on any team is the backup quarterback'. Lamb will be fine, he does have some limitations but so do most college qbs. We don't need a 5 star first round pick qb to win games with our offense.

[diehardapp18]

Although we looked good winning, anyone else concerned that the teams we beat are:

Howard 0-5
ODU 2-3
Wyoming 0-5

Combined 2-13, horrible at best. Ga State is 1-3. SOS has to be near the bottom. First half of the season has been a scrimmage against BAD teams.

I'm glad the schedule worked out this way for us. In each of Satterfield's first two years his teams have gotten much, MUCH better in the second half of the season. Both got out to slow starts and finished strong. This team has raced out to a 3-1 start (with the only loss being to a top 10 team) and if SS's first two seasons are any indication they're only gonna start playing better.

[clayton]

I think the Sun Belt has four non-conference wins over FBS opponents in 2015.

We have 2 of them.

I like our chances in Sun Belt play.

[SpeedkingATL]

It's great to see people on the board bitching about a 31-13 win over a MWC BCS school played in a near tropical storm. That just shows how far this team has come since this time last year, watching South Alabama push App all over the field and Liberty embarrass us on homecoming last year about this timeframe.

It's great to be an App fan!!

One at a time! Beat GaSt!!

[ASUfan6971]

I am glad we played well enough to get an easy win, but I would like to see some improvement in the third down plays. Why are we throwing 20-30 yards down field when we only need 6 or 7 yards??? I have noticed this in the Clemson game as well. You would think that with our good WR's some shorter routes should be in our playbook.
When Clemson needed 7 yards their WR's made cuts 8 or 9 yards every time against us.

[hapapp]

- It was ugly, andI remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Any team that averages over 400 yards a game on offense (and outgained us) is likely better than its record indicates. Absent a fake field goal and late TD, the game is 14-7 at the half after we scored two early first quarter TDs. We didn't really put the game away until the 4th quarter. No doubt a better team wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot as they did. Clearly, they have some issues on defense but it was a very competitive game from my seat for most of the game.

[Seattleapp]

This is absolute definition of an armchair quarterback thread. Well played guys.

Wouldn't that be the purpose of a message board; for people to post their observations and their opinions?

What's funny is how quickly everyone is off Lamb even though these are all the same people who loved him after he replaced the starter last year. It was raining sideways Saturday, Tom Brady doesn't throw the ball well in those conditions. It just cracks me up that no one is ever ever happy with the quarterback position.

Seems to me that several people have spoken up in defense of Lamb.

It also seems that no one had when i made my original post. I saw six consecutive posts raggin on him, including one where he's gonna lose his starting job to a guy who hasn't even been identified yet. I'm all about criticism, but our offense is not built on him having Armanti type numbers.

[JTApps1]

Although we looked good winning, anyone else concerned that the teams we beat are:

Howard 0-5
ODU 2-3
Wyoming 0-5

Combined 2-13, horrible at best. Ga State is 1-3. SOS has to be near the bottom. First half of the season has been a scrimmage against BAD teams.

I would be concerned if we were barely beating these teams, but we've beat them by a total of 129-13. We cant do anything about their records so why be worried? A lot of teams in the conference have lost to teams on par with ODU and Wyoming.

[EastHallApp]

- It was ugly, andI remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Any team that averages over 400 yards a game on offense (and outgained us) is likely better than its record indicates. Absent a fake field goal and late TD, the game is 14-7 at the half after we scored two early first quarter TDs. We didn't really put the game away until the 4th quarter. No doubt a better team wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot as they did. Clearly, they have some issues on defense but it was a very competitive game from my seat for most of the game.

I admire the courtesy for the opponent. They did fight hard, which is more than ODU did. But if they're better than their record, shouldn't they have been able to stay within single digits of at least one opponent? Even FCS North Dakota? Hard to chalk that up to bad luck.

Every computer ranking I've seen has them at or near the bottom of FBS, and below many FCS teams.

[App91]

It's great to see people on the board bitching about a 31-13 win over a MWC BCS school played in a near tropical storm. That just shows how far this team has come since this time last year, watching South Alabama push App all over the field and Liberty embarrass us on homecoming last year about this timeframe.

It's great to be an App fan!!

One at a time! Beat GaSt!!

And your definition of bitching is?

[Apptiger]

I'd say the vast majority of fans are just fine with Lamb at QB1.

He does need to look off his receivers more.

Offering points to improve is different than wanting a new starter.

Bingo! There is almost always room for improvement, that goes for all play and all players. Calling for a new quarterback with his record as a starter?? (?????)

Note to Black Saturday - Their records may not be much but save last game, we flat out whooped their behinds, played reserves and took knees. After last year's start, I'll take it all day long. I still haven't seen any other comments about their size, their O line was freaking huge. Hi BTW