We Can Go to the Peach Bowl, and Here's How:

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

After yeaterday we need to just focus on winning the Sun Belt.

Too many great G-5 teams that have played way better opponents that would get the nod, even if they had 2 losses.

It's also all about money. We are not as well known as many of the schools mentioned on this thread. They won't just look at the record, they will look at revenue potential. We are not attractive enough AT THIS TIME.

[T-Dog]

We're fans, we can still talk about this. If we win out, I don't think the selectors will go "well they got taken to three overtimes by Troy, we can't select them!"

Games of relevance for this week

-Northern Illinois at Toledo on Tuesday, 8 pm on ESPN2
-Temple at SMU on Friday, 8 pm on ESPN2
-Cincy at Houston on Saturday, 3:30 pm on ESPN2
-Navy at Memphis on Saturday, 7 pm on ESPN2

Memphis' next three games at Navy, at Houston and at Temple. Navy also goes to Houston.

I don't see any CUSA team having a good enough resume at this point. Marshall's lost to Ohio really hurts them.

Toledo has to go to Bowling Green and Central Michigan and host Western Michigan, not an easy schedule, plus they have the MAC title game, which will likely have Bowling Green.

I don't see Boise making it. The have Air Force and the MW title game, but they might not even make it. Plus San Diego State will be in the game more than likely and they lost to South Alabama.

Of course if we lose any of the final four games that dream is over. But it's still fun to dream.

[Black Saturday]

We're fans, we can still talk about this. If we win out, I don't think the selectors will go "well they got taken to three overtimes by Troy, we can't select them!"

Games of relevance for this week

-Northern Illinois at Toledo on Tuesday, 8 pm on ESPN2
-Temple at SMU on Friday, 8 pm on ESPN2
-Cincy at Houston on Saturday, 3:30 pm on ESPN2
-Navy at Memphis on Saturday, 7 pm on ESPN2

*Arkansas St @ Appalachian State --most important game

Memphis' next three games at Navy, at Houston and at Temple. Navy also goes to Houston.

I don't see any CUSA team having a good enough resume at this point. Marshall's lost to Ohio really hurts them.

Toledo has to go to Bowling Green and Central Michigan and host Western Michigan, not an easy schedule, plus they have the MAC title game, which will likely have Bowling Green.

I don't see Boise making it. The have Air Force and the MW title game, but they might not even make it. Plus San Diego State will be in the game more than likely and they lost to South Alabama.

Of course if we lose any of the final four games that dream is over. But it's still fun to dream.

[AppDawg]

MAC - checkmate.

[ASU2012]

Whoops just saw this thread befor posting in the bowl thread. More relevant here anyways so I'll drop it here as well:

Have a connection with the Peach Bowl and can confirm the App was added to the "potential invite list" this week. Now, we're 26th out of 26th on that list, so take it for what it's worth, but we are on the list.

[newtoasu]

Whoops just saw this thread befor posting in the bowl thread. More relevant here anyways so I'll drop it here as well:

Have a connection with the Peach Bowl and can confirm the App was added to the "potential invite list" this week. Now, we're 26th out of 26th on that list, so take it for what it's worth, but we are on the list.

So you're telling me there's a chance?

https://youtu.be/KX5jNnDMfxA

[AppDawg]

So I was thinking and if we want this to still be a possibility first off we have to win out. Which I still think we're gonna do.

So IF that happens, the team we need to start rooting for is: SOUTH FLORIDA. The Bulls are currently 4-4 and 2-2 in the American. They are in the eastern part of the American conference. Temple currently leads that division with a spotless 4-0 conference mark. But they are yet to play South Florida and they also play Memphis. So, let's say South Florida wins out at 8-4 (6-2) that would include a win over Temple. So if Temple loses to South Florida and Memphis they also finish with a 6-2 record in the conference, but they wouldn't make the championship game because South Florida wins the head to head tiebreaker. So then South Florida would meet either Memphis or Houston in the conference championship. Well or maybe Navy too. So if South Florida can then win that, they are the only team from that conference eligible for the peach bowl and they will only have a 9-4 record. I have to think 11-1 App gets the nod over 9-4 USF even if they strung together impressive wins like that.

Then we would need Toledo to lose. They still have tough games vs NIU, @ BG, and vs WMU. Gonna go ahead and predict they lose one of these. Say they lose to WMU, that means WMU probably goes to the MAC championship and puts Toledo out of Peach Bowl conversations. WMU would probably play Bowling Green who is 6-2 (4-0) and running away with their division in the MAC. Does 11-2 Bowling Green (losses to Tennessee and Memphis) get the nod over 11-1 App (loss to Clemson)? There's a very real chance. But let's say Western Michigan wins the MAC at 10-3 (losses to Michigan State, Georgia Southern, Ohio State) there's not a chance in hell they get the bowl over us.

Guys, this is the IDEAL pool App needs to get the Peach Bowl since ONLY conference champs can get invited. Extremely unlikely but not impossible:
American: South Florida
C-USA: WEST winner (not Marshall or WKU)
MAC: Western Michigan
MWC: Just not Boise (Utah State or San Diego State)
Sun Belt: APPALACHIAN STATE (11-1)

Boom. From that pool we get picked I think. After yesterday's lackluster talk, a lot of you may not be in the mood to be talking about this. But I say keep the conversations going until it's impossible. If South Florida one more time I think all our chances are about done. But hey let's see what happens. When the Panthers were 3-8-1 last year I wasn't planning on buying tickets to a playoff game 1 month later.

Yep, South Florida is pretty much our only chance. Cincinnati is also possible even though they lost to Temple, they could win a 3-way tiebreaker. You are spot on on the other conerences as well. Keep the faith.

I know the stAte game killed any chance we had.

But I am reviving this thread to point out what most on this board thought to be "outlandish" scenarios are playing out. Toldeo lost last week and Temple lost to USF yesterday and plays Memphis next week. It is now not unreasonable to anticipate USF in the AAC title game. Time to start believing that WE CAN be in the conversation in future years, we just have to take care of our own business and win the conference. Then let the chips fall where they may.

Its because of us being in the conversation for the Access bowl and chips falling like they did this week, which made the stAte game to me feel like a playoff loss.

[T-Dog]

Yes, if App would have somehow beaten stAte, the Access Bowl standings would be Houston, Navy, App in that order. Houston and Navy play each other and one goes to the AAC title game against Temple or USF.

It wasn't crazy to think about the Peach Bowl.

[EastHallApp]

We would not have been ahead of Toledo right now. Possibly not Temple either, and almost certainly not if they win out and win the AAC title. Memphis would probably still be ahead of us too, though it wouldn't have mattered since their AAC title hopes are basically shot.

[appbio91]

We would not have been ahead of Toledo right now. Possibly not Temple either, and almost certainly not if they win out and win the AAC title. Memphis would probably still be ahead of us too, though it wouldn't have mattered since their AAC title hopes are basically shot.

I agree even if the doomsday scenario played out those teams are still ahead of us. We would have cracked the top 25 at 11-1 but still no way we get to the access bowl with the schedule we played. No SB team deserves consideration this year.

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[JTApps1]

We would not have been ahead of Toledo right now. Possibly not Temple either, and almost certainly not if they win out and win the AAC title. Memphis would probably still be ahead of us too, though it wouldn't have mattered since their AAC title hopes are basically shot.

To get the Access Bowl slot you have to be a conference champion which Memphis and Toledo would not be eligible for. It would have come down to how we stack up against the AAC champion. Say a 3 loss Temple (assuming Memphis beats them) wins the AAC, and we would have gone 11-1. In that situation it is likely we get in despite a SOS that isn't as good.

[EastHallApp]

We would not have been ahead of Toledo right now. Possibly not Temple either, and almost certainly not if they win out and win the AAC title. Memphis would probably still be ahead of us too, though it wouldn't have mattered since their AAC title hopes are basically shot.

I agree even if the doomsday scenario played out those teams are still ahead of us. We would have cracked the top 25 at 11-1 but still no way we get to the access bowl with the schedule we played. No SB team deserves consideration this year.

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It wouldn't have been totally implausible, we'd have just needed some more help. If USF wins the American and someone with three or more losses wins the MAC, then we can maybe start kicking ourselves. Though an 11-2 Western Kentucky would have been an option too.

[EastHallApp]

We would not have been ahead of Toledo right now. Possibly not Temple either, and almost certainly not if they win out and win the AAC title. Memphis would probably still be ahead of us too, though it wouldn't have mattered since their AAC title hopes are basically shot.

To get the Access Bowl slot you have to be a conference champion which Memphis and Toledo would not be eligible for. It would have come down to how we stack up against the AAC champion. Say a 3 loss Temple (assuming Memphis beats them) wins the AAC, and we would have gone 11-1. In that situation it is likely we get in despite a SOS that isn't as good.

Toledo's in a three-way tie for first - they need some help, but they're not out of the MAC race. I also think an 11-2 Bowling Green would have probably gotten the nod over an 11-1 App.

Now, if both the eventual AAC and MAC champions wind up with three or more losses...

[ASU3432M]

You gotta figure that Ark State will go to New Orleans if they win out; as they should. If we win out and finish 10-2, (with 1 loss being to #1 Clemson) what's the best we can hope for?Realistically.

[EastHallApp]

Just an aside here, but if we had beaten A-State and were in the NY6 running - with our SoS being the albatross it would have been - we'd also be lamenting having replaced 7-3 Southern Miss with 1-10 Wyoming.