Coastal - 3:30pm - Discussion

[Bootsy]

If App was winning, would we be complaining about game day music? Oh, wait…the answer to that question is definitely YES.

[CVAPP]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Who else can you blame but DL, or one of his subordinates? With less than 10 on the clock, home field advantage with a huge crowd, the momentum, 1st and goal from the 5, and the lead, you burn time on non-scoring plays.

I like DL, but I won't apologize for mistakes made under his leadership, or anyone else's. BTW, DL hinted at that dropped pass too, but failed to mention all the ones DD made to put us in the position we were in.

[AppStFan1]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Who else can you blame but DL, or one of his subordinates? With less than 10 on the clock, home field advantage with a huge crowd, the momentum, 1st and goal from the 5, and the lead, you burn time on non-scoring plays.

I like DL, but I won't apologize for mistakes made under his leadership, or anyone else's. BTW, DL hinted at that dropped pass too, but failed to mention all the ones DD made to put us in the position we were in.

Coaches always carry some blame and I blame coaches if things are bad all the time but there are many spots where players have to make plays as well. Remember the saying that big time players make big time plays in big time games? Well, that was a key play and should have been a touchdown, which would have changed the trajectory of the game. The 3 straight passes were called because we were depleted on the OL. Those guys got key experience and now have film to help them correct mistakes. Hopefully we see improvement next week. We are going to have to execute better for sure.

[BambooRdApp]

Two OL out. We had not demonstrated we could run the ball with or without 7. CC D up on line of scrimmage... Had no significant issues with the pass versus run calls.

[appgrad95&97]

It doesn't seem like we have anywhere near the talent we had several years ago. It feels like we are in full rebuild mode. In some ways, that's to be expected.

[BUTCH1991]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Also, we did some stupid things on offense that I would guarantee our OL coach did not teach. There was a play where we had 3 OL blocking 2 defenders leaving a wide open gap for a pass rusher to hurry the QB and force an incompletion. In our last chance at the end the LT #72 just let the defender rip under him and get around to hit our QB and make him drop the ball. I could name a dozen more instances where Coastal just flat out whipped us and out smarted us.

I would encourage everyone to watch the coach's film and look at the end zone copy to see some of the mistakes our line made. We have to get a lot better up front.

Loggains said we need to learn how to win games and he is right. It is a shame because we should have won by 14 or so based on the first half.

How do we watch the coach's film?

[hapapp]

Two OL out. We had not demonstrated we could run the ball with or without 7. CC D up on line of scrimmage... Had no significant issues with the pass versus run calls.

Of course, we ran the ball three straight times with success moving from the 19 to the 5 prior to the incomplete passes. So, I don't completely buy the reasons for not running in that situation.

[BambooRdApp]

Two OL out. We had not demonstrated we could run the ball with or without 7. CC D up on line of scrimmage... Had no significant issues with the pass versus run calls.

Of course, we ran the ball three straight times with success moving from the 19 to the 5 prior to the incomplete passes. So, I don't completely buy the reasons for not running in that situation.

3 runs versus an entire game of runs does not a decision make... especially with the front 7 closer to the line of scrimmage...
If he would have run the ball, I would not have had an issue with that. I just did not have significant
issue with passing given our lack of running game. We had more success with the passing game. Made a great call and a drop. DLo can only call the play.. cannot execute it

[AppSnareDrummer]

Not one player’s participates in the buglers dream pointing any longer, it took half a season to kill a tradition. DL may be fine on the field longterm, but the small changes to the program off the field are starting to add up from a fan perspective.

I put that on the administration as much as the coaching staff. Someone has to make it clear that certain things are part of our tradition no matter what. That message also has to go to the Game Ops folks who coordinate everything, and to the band to make sure they know to play it every time we kickoff.

Believe me when I say the band not knowing when to play it isn't a problem. We do. In fact, we queue it up after ever touchdown. We never get the green light to play it though. They almost always opt for canned music instead

[Seattleapp]

Not one player’s participates in the buglers dream pointing any longer, it took half a season to kill a tradition. DL may be fine on the field longterm, but the small changes to the program off the field are starting to add up from a fan perspective.

I put that on the administration as much as the coaching staff. Someone has to make it clear that certain things are part of our tradition no matter what. That message also has to go to the Game Ops folks who coordinate everything, and to the band to make sure they know to play it every time we kickoff.

Believe me when I say the band not knowing when to play it isn't a problem. We do. In fact, we queue it up after ever touchdown. We never get the green light to play it though. They almost always opt for canned music instead

Thanks for this post and thanks for
Your contribution

[Oldlknapp]

A friend that was sitting with his family behind the bench on the east side told me that the CCU players and coaches were not very nice.

[BUTCH1991]

Not one player’s participates in the buglers dream pointing any longer, it took half a season to kill a tradition. DL may be fine on the field longterm, but the small changes to the program off the field are starting to add up from a fan perspective.

I put that on the administration as much as the coaching staff. Someone has to make it clear that certain things are part of our tradition no matter what. That message also has to go to the Game Ops folks who coordinate everything, and to the band to make sure they know to play it every time we kickoff.

Believe me when I say the band not knowing when to play it isn't a problem. We do. In fact, we queue it up after ever touchdown. We never get the green light to play it though. They almost always opt for canned music instead

I'm sorry that you're getting the shaft on this. More band, less canned!

[Saint3333]

Not one player’s participates in the buglers dream pointing any longer, it took half a season to kill a tradition. DL may be fine on the field longterm, but the small changes to the program off the field are starting to add up from a fan perspective.

I put that on the administration as much as the coaching staff. Someone has to make it clear that certain things are part of our tradition no matter what. That message also has to go to the Game Ops folks who coordinate everything, and to the band to make sure they know to play it every time we kickoff.

Believe me when I say the band not knowing when to play it isn't a problem. We do. In fact, we queue it up after ever touchdown. We never get the green light to play it though. They almost always opt for canned music instead

First - thanks for the countless hours the band puts in.

Second - the band director needs to walk into the athletic facility tomorrow and let them know that alumni would prefer tradition and we need to bring this one back!

[CVAPP]

Coaches always carry some blame and I blame coaches if things are bad all the time but there are many spots where players have to make plays as well. Remember the saying that big time players make big time plays in big time games? Well, that was a key play and should have been a touchdown, which would have changed the trajectory of the game. The 3 straight passes were called because we were depleted on the OL. Those guys got key experience and now have film to help them correct mistakes. Hopefully we see improvement next week. We are going to have to execute better for sure.

So, a depleted OL defends the pass rush better? I know, you will reach for that answer too.

[AppStFan1]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Also, we did some stupid things on offense that I would guarantee our OL coach did not teach. There was a play where we had 3 OL blocking 2 defenders leaving a wide open gap for a pass rusher to hurry the QB and force an incompletion. In our last chance at the end the LT #72 just let the defender rip under him and get around to hit our QB and make him drop the ball. I could name a dozen more instances where Coastal just flat out whipped us and out smarted us.

I would encourage everyone to watch the coach's film and look at the end zone copy to see some of the mistakes our line made. We have to get a lot better up front.

Loggains said we need to learn how to win games and he is right. It is a shame because we should have won by 14 or so based on the first half.

How do we watch the coach's film?

I think you can buy the All-22 access or PFF or you can go to the facility and ask the coaches to let you see it.

[AppStFan1]

Coaches always carry some blame and I blame coaches if things are bad all the time but there are many spots where players have to make plays as well. Remember the saying that big time players make big time plays in big time games? Well, that was a key play and should have been a touchdown, which would have changed the trajectory of the game. The 3 straight passes were called because we were depleted on the OL. Those guys got key experience and now have film to help them correct mistakes. Hopefully we see improvement next week. We are going to have to execute better for sure.

So, a depleted OL defends the pass rush better? I know, you will reach for that answer too.

There were five linemen on the field so it does not matter if someone is a starter or backup. When one of them sees pre-snap that someone is going to be in their gap they should sit and see instead of sliding over to help someone who is blocking someone. I would fault that play as a poor read by our right guard.

[BUTCH1991]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Also, we did some stupid things on offense that I would guarantee our OL coach did not teach. There was a play where we had 3 OL blocking 2 defenders leaving a wide open gap for a pass rusher to hurry the QB and force an incompletion. In our last chance at the end the LT #72 just let the defender rip under him and get around to hit our QB and make him drop the ball. I could name a dozen more instances where Coastal just flat out whipped us and out smarted us.

I would encourage everyone to watch the coach's film and look at the end zone copy to see some of the mistakes our line made. We have to get a lot better up front.

Loggains said we need to learn how to win games and he is right. It is a shame because we should have won by 14 or so based on the first half.

How do we watch the coach's film?

I think you can buy the All-22 access or PFF or you can go to the facility and ask the coaches to let you see it.

I don't think anyone's letting me in the facility. I know no one up there.

[AppStFan1]

I have seen a few people complain about the play calling and I don't think you can blame Loggains for that. For example, inside the 5-yard line in the 4th we passed 3 straight times but that was because the OL was beat up and he did not have confidence we could pound it in. I really think you chalk that up to the dropped pass on that sequence. The defense has to be blamed mostly here. Injuries and not executing are hurting us right now but we still have to find a way.

Also, we did some stupid things on offense that I would guarantee our OL coach did not teach. There was a play where we had 3 OL blocking 2 defenders leaving a wide open gap for a pass rusher to hurry the QB and force an incompletion. In our last chance at the end the LT #72 just let the defender rip under him and get around to hit our QB and make him drop the ball. I could name a dozen more instances where Coastal just flat out whipped us and out smarted us.

I would encourage everyone to watch the coach's film and look at the end zone copy to see some of the mistakes our line made. We have to get a lot better up front.

Loggains said we need to learn how to win games and he is right. It is a shame because we should have won by 14 or so based on the first half.

How do we watch the coach's film?

I think you can buy the All-22 access or PFF or you can go to the facility and ask the coaches to let you see it.

I don't think anyone's letting me in the facility. I know no one up there.

Haha that can make it harder to do. I know PFF has college video on theirs. You might be able to buy access that way.

[JTApps1]

Not one player’s participates in the buglers dream pointing any longer, it took half a season to kill a tradition. DL may be fine on the field longterm, but the small changes to the program off the field are starting to add up from a fan perspective.

I put that on the administration as much as the coaching staff. Someone has to make it clear that certain things are part of our tradition no matter what. That message also has to go to the Game Ops folks who coordinate everything, and to the band to make sure they know to play it every time we kickoff.

Believe me when I say the band not knowing when to play it isn't a problem. We do. In fact, we queue it up after ever touchdown. We never get the green light to play it though. They almost always opt for canned music instead

I didn't mean that to come across as a critique of the band. I know they only play when given the go ahead, but someone has to let the band know they'll be allowed to play for each kickoff. I don't mind canned music some, but I'd much rather have the band play most times.

[BambooRdApp]

Sitting in the NEZ, we really cannot hear the band and sound projects out versus up. Or maybe just our section being on far left from band.
Realize cannot please everyone. Just observation.