It has been a steady fall off in performance over several years. I hope this is rock bottom. I am not convinced Loggains is the dude either but if next season resembles this both him and Gillins need to be shown the door. In my LIFETIME we have not been this bad.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:23 pmI am not saying Loggains is going to pan out but I think we need to be fair and see what next year looks like. What if he turns it around and goes 10-2 next year and Gillin gets us an invite into a bigger league? If we don't win another game then Loggains will have a lot of pressure in this off-season.
FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Going to be hard to justify that Yosef club payment next year.
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Is this Mike Working bad? I think we can mention his name at this point.
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
We had 14 or more points in every game last yearBTK2000 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:28 pmSir. Stop. You and I both know they did that’s part of the problem. There hasn’t been any improvementSeattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:24 pmNo Clark team ever looked this badt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:18 pmThis is FAR WORSE than that South Alabama game, and I thought that was a low point.ah59396 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:17 pmI was (rightfully) disgusted with the coaching staff and players after our showing against South Alabama because I'd never seen us look like that before. Now seeing it in back to back years is honestly appalling.
This is not the App State program of the past 30 years. Plain and simple.
We had 212 yards or more passing in every game last year
We had 362 yards or more total offense in every game last year.
The defense was worse last year
We also won 3 of the final 5 games last year.
This year's team is getting worse as the year goes on.
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If DL refuses to hire an OC next season he needs to be shown the door
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Just think about this, some poor guy is paying these players.
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The most stressful part is 3 of the non con games are ECU, as well as UNCs Concord and Raleigh. Coming out of the non con schedule 2-2 will suck and anything less will be miserable.ncman071 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:34 pmyes it is likely we go 4-8..i dont see a win over the last 2 but...i could be wrong...we have regressed because we have a really bad offensive line....i'm not in the fire loggains camp yet....got to give this man another full year....we HAVE to see improvment next season....and IF we show improvement next season he needs to have a big year 3...like competing for a sunbelt title type year ....
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You just cant hold donations for 1 bad transitional year….
And this one really sucks.
And this one really sucks.
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
again, Loggains is a loser. I don't even care that much about the score (which is awful). But there is ZERO reason to keep Swann on the field. He's visibly limping and leaving him out there down by 100 points with 8 minutes left is reason enough for me to be done with the HC. If I were Swann's parents I'd be livid.
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Shouldn’t a personal foul call result in a first down?
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Wow. I feel so bad for Swann. Down by 50 and still playing getting hit every play.
That’s bad.
De ja vu of Kaedin…
That’s bad.
De ja vu of Kaedin…
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Re: FB at No. 24 JMU, 3:30 p.m., ESPN+
Swann looks done for the game with an injury, not sure why he was still in there.
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How many ankles did the Dukes D end up twisting on their tackles? Reminiscent of Limbo and Leon.
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I think that the Saturday after thanksgiving home game will be a real eye opener for DL and DG. I reckon our sell out streak is in jeopardy

