Possible transfer situations

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:34 pm

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Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:35 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Why would you not be allowed to ask? Go to a basketball game on any weekend and you are bound to see Gillin, Clark and Watts there. Shawn has always been gracious and approachable. Just keep in mind that while you may be asking the questions for you, he has probably been asked a couple times already.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by goapps93 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:35 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
This is becoming a very tired schtick.
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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by appst89 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:26 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:35 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
This is becoming a very tired schtick.
Depends on one’s perspective, I suppose. I, and others, find a lot of the other shtick to be pretty tired too.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by appst89 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
Nope, not for a second.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:56 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
Nope, not for a second.
If you asked the right question in the right way in person, I have little doubt that you would get an honest answer.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by appst89 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:09 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:56 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
Nope, not for a second.
If you asked the right question in the right way in person, I have little doubt that you would get an honest answer.
I don’t share your optimism.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:50 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:09 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:56 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
Nope, not for a second.
If you asked the right question in the right way in person, I have little doubt that you would get an honest answer.
I don’t share your optimism.
Just speaking from experience.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by appst89 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:28 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:50 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:09 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:56 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:34 pm


Who do you want to ask? And do you think the person who knows those answers will say to you or whomever - "OK, have a seat and I'll give you the unvarnished truth" -
Nope, not for a second.
If you asked the right question in the right way in person, I have little doubt that you would get an honest answer.
I don’t share your optimism.
Just speaking from experience.
Me too.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:52 pm

Changing topics here…. We picked up 3 transfer commitments this weekend (according to the players themselves on twitter).

Christian (Scoobie) Ford, WR - Miss State - 1 year of eligibility
Jarrett Paul, Safety - Kansas - 2 years of eligibility
Shawn Collins, DL, - Rutgers - 3 years of eligibility

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by App91 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:54 pm

appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
The Sunshine Squad will never allow such questions! You must always blow sunshine, smell roses and throw pixie dust. Anything less is shouted down.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppState89 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:18 am

Christian (Scoobie) Ford, WR - Miss State

2022 (Senior Season)
Has appeared in nine games ... Bowling Green (9/24): Hauled in three receptions for 20 yards in the win over the Falcons ... Arkansas (10/8): Caught one pass for nine yards ... Auburn (11/5): Made two catches for 13 yards ... ETSU (11/19): Had two receptions for 24 yards.

2021 (Junior Season)
Appeared in eight games while making one start on the road at Auburn (11/13) ... Had 19 catches for 247 receiving yards with an average of 13.0 yards per catch on the campaign ... NC State (9/11): Made his MSU debut in State's win over Wolfpack ... LSU (9/25): First reception as a Bulldog came against the Tigers ... ended the game with two catches for 14 yards ... at Texas A&M (10/2): Had four receptions for 40 yards in State's road win over the Aggies ... at Vanderbilt (10/23): Had a season-high five receptions for 63 receiving yards against the Commodores ... at Arkansas (11/6): Had three catches for a season-high 65 receiving yards against the Razorbacks.

2020 (Sophomore Season)
Joined MSU as a walk-on ... Did not see action.

2019 (Redshirt Freshman Season – Iowa Central C.C.)
Appeared in 12 games … Made 14 receptions for 304 yards and two touchdowns … Totaled 99 yards on three receptions at Ellsworth C.C. (10/19) … Caught two passes for 93 yards at Snow College (9/21), with a season-long 71-yard reception for a touchdown.

2018 (True Freshman Season – Georgia Southern)
Redshirted his initial year at Georgia Southern.

***I'm really confused about this one. Can't see him getting any playing time at all, unless I'm missing something.
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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by WASU 93 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:49 am

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Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:18 am
Christian (Scoobie) Ford, WR - Miss State

2022 (Senior Season)
Has appeared in nine games ... Bowling Green (9/24): Hauled in three receptions for 20 yards in the win over the Falcons ... Arkansas (10/8): Caught one pass for nine yards ... Auburn (11/5): Made two catches for 13 yards ... ETSU (11/19): Had two receptions for 24 yards.

2021 (Junior Season)
Appeared in eight games while making one start on the road at Auburn (11/13) ... Had 19 catches for 247 receiving yards with an average of 13.0 yards per catch on the campaign ... NC State (9/11): Made his MSU debut in State's win over Wolfpack ... LSU (9/25): First reception as a Bulldog came against the Tigers ... ended the game with two catches for 14 yards ... at Texas A&M (10/2): Had four receptions for 40 yards in State's road win over the Aggies ... at Vanderbilt (10/23): Had a season-high five receptions for 63 receiving yards against the Commodores ... at Arkansas (11/6): Had three catches for a season-high 65 receiving yards against the Razorbacks.

2020 (Sophomore Season)
Joined MSU as a walk-on ... Did not see action.

2019 (Redshirt Freshman Season – Iowa Central C.C.)
Appeared in 12 games … Made 14 receptions for 304 yards and two touchdowns … Totaled 99 yards on three receptions at Ellsworth C.C. (10/19) … Caught two passes for 93 yards at Snow College (9/21), with a season-long 71-yard reception for a touchdown.

2018 (True Freshman Season – Georgia Southern)
Redshirted his initial year at Georgia Southern.

***I'm really confused about this one. Can't see him getting any playing time at all, unless I'm missing something.
Unless he's going to slide into the Tyler Page role as a punt returner ???

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:30 am

I get confused about all of this terminology especially since some of the recruiting/transfer stuff has changed. What exactly does "committed" really mean now as it pertains to a portal guy? Have we actually offered a spot to a player and he has "committed" to accept? Or is a guy simply saying he's committed to coming if given a spot with a scholarship? None of it seems real until a document is signed and the athlete is accepted to the school. I really hope we aren't just trying to fill spots quickly and taking marginally talented players.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by Appmountaineers19 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:35 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:30 am
I get confused about all of this terminology especially since some of the recruiting/transfer stuff has changed. What exactly does "committed" really mean now as it pertains to a portal guy? Have we actually offered a spot to a player and he has "committed" to accept? Or is a guy simply saying he's committed to coming if given a spot with a scholarship? None of it seems real until a document is signed and the athlete is accepted to the school. I really hope we aren't just trying to fill spots quickly and taking marginally talented players.
You are correct. Transfers aren't "committed" until the grant is signed and basically at class in January. Until then both parties are only "committed" by words. Early NLI day is 2 days for HS and Juco's. Once they sign most times you can breathe a sigh of relief. Late NIL starts in February.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by Tru2ASU » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:53 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:52 pm
Changing topics here…. We picked up 3 transfer commitments this weekend (according to the players themselves on twitter).

Christian (Scoobie) Ford, WR - Miss State - 1 year of eligibility
Jarrett Paul, Safety - Kansas - 2 years of eligibility
Shawn Collins, DL, - Rutgers - 3 years of eligibility
We must be scanning for diamonds in the rough, which I'm cool with. Hopefully, they can add some depth. Looks like Paul played some in Kansas, and lost his spot, looks like Collins could not crack the depth chart at Rutgers..

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:59 am

App91 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:54 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
The Sunshine Squad will never allow such questions! You must always blow sunshine, smell roses and throw pixie dust. Anything less is shouted down.
Who is the “Sunshine Squad”?

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by Seattleapp » Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:06 am

App91 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:54 pm
appst89 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:23 pm
What questions are we allowed to ask? Since none of us understand, are we allowed to ask anything? Or do we just have to take whatever comes because we don’t understand?

If we are allowed to ask; I’d like to know what went wrong, what’s being done to fix it short term and long term how it never happens again. 6-6 can never be acceptable regardless of what reasons or excuses are given.
The Sunshine Squad will never allow such questions! You must always blow sunshine, smell roses and throw pixie dust. Anything less is shouted down.
Or maybe some folks are arguing just to argue And nothing will appease them. I read that entire exchange and what I took away from it was you can find the answers you are seeking if you ask the right questions in the right way. That’s not really a blowing sunshine as you put it position. In fact it’s pretty sound advice in general. But if people approach the AD the way they approach this message board would it surprise you if the response was lacking?

The ax some are grinding on here is down to a nub. The season is over. Some coaches have been let go. Some players are moving on, but yet the bloodlust by a handful on here who still “demand” answers and accountability is bordering on insane. But the most glaring part as is they can’t ever really say what they want answers to.

No One is “shouting” anyone down for staying in a perpetual state of outrage. But when every response given is dismissed as blowing sunshine or being ok with mediocrity, then it becomes apparent those folks aren’t really interested in hearing anything outside their echo chamber.

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Re: Possible transfer situations

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:14 am

AppState89 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:18 am
Christian (Scoobie) Ford, WR - Miss State

2022 (Senior Season)
Has appeared in nine games ... Bowling Green (9/24): Hauled in three receptions for 20 yards in the win over the Falcons ... Arkansas (10/8): Caught one pass for nine yards ... Auburn (11/5): Made two catches for 13 yards ... ETSU (11/19): Had two receptions for 24 yards.

2021 (Junior Season)
Appeared in eight games while making one start on the road at Auburn (11/13) ... Had 19 catches for 247 receiving yards with an average of 13.0 yards per catch on the campaign ... NC State (9/11): Made his MSU debut in State's win over Wolfpack ... LSU (9/25): First reception as a Bulldog came against the Tigers ... ended the game with two catches for 14 yards ... at Texas A&M (10/2): Had four receptions for 40 yards in State's road win over the Aggies ... at Vanderbilt (10/23): Had a season-high five receptions for 63 receiving yards against the Commodores ... at Arkansas (11/6): Had three catches for a season-high 65 receiving yards against the Razorbacks.

2020 (Sophomore Season)
Joined MSU as a walk-on ... Did not see action.

2019 (Redshirt Freshman Season – Iowa Central C.C.)
Appeared in 12 games … Made 14 receptions for 304 yards and two touchdowns … Totaled 99 yards on three receptions at Ellsworth C.C. (10/19) … Caught two passes for 93 yards at Snow College (9/21), with a season-long 71-yard reception for a touchdown.

2018 (True Freshman Season – Georgia Southern)
Redshirted his initial year at Georgia Southern.

***I'm really confused about this one. Can't see him getting any playing time at all, unless I'm missing something.
An elusive slot receiver with blazing speed — which Scoobie Ford most definitely is — is always in high demand in our offense. He’ll make us better.

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